[-RED-] Lightning_99 Players 9 posts 12,038 battles Report post #1 Posted September 13, 2021 Anyone else noticed that MM is get more cancerous by the day? Every single game you get matched with all out potatos. Never thought I would see 4 tier 10 bb's die within 3 min but now I have. MM is getting worse and worse. Is PR based MM ever going to come to WoWs or are we stuck playing with people who are worse than bots. 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,190 battles Report post #2 Posted September 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Lightning_99 said: Anyone else noticed that MM is get more cancerous by the day? Every single game you get matched with all out potatos. Never thought I would see 4 tier 10 bb's die within 3 min but now I have, but the pencil eaters are somehow always on our team. When is PR based MM coming? So we can play a game where we actually can play with and against people who does not have less IQ than a five year old..... If you had MM monitor you would lose yourself. Like really you go into T7-8 and 50% of your team has 100-120 games on account... Having piss poor stats. They play like T3-4 level back in the days. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RED-] Lightning_99 Players 9 posts 12,038 battles Report post #3 Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, MacArthur92 said: If you had MM monitor you would lose yourself. Like really you go into T7-8 and 50% of your team has 100-120 games on account... Having piss poor stats. They play like T3-4 level back in the days. Yeah... It's both boring and hopeless, not fun playing a game where you can not actually win. You can carry the weight of 3-4 ships maybe, but 11 ships can not be carried... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,190 battles Report post #4 Posted September 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Lightning_99 said: Yeah... It's both boring and hopeless, not fun playing a game where you can not actually win. You can carry the weight of 3-4 ships maybe, but 11 ships can not be carried... I just had 37k game on Napoli... Why? Cause my team steamrolled their one in 5 min. I look at the enemy team stats and 3 of their BBs barely do 100k dmg together And many of them have less than 300 games on account. I really don't want to show this here cause it'll be statshaming but this issue is growing. Also people on some ships with 0 PR... More of that as well. Lexington with 17 battles, 20% WR and 9000 dmg average with 0 PR. I'm using the MM monitor for 3 years and in the past it was super rare to find a 0 PR people. Now? Almost everyday. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PME] inkedsoulz Players 196 posts Report post #5 Posted September 13, 2021 Happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #6 Posted September 13, 2021 Yeah it's pretty bad again lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #7 Posted September 13, 2021 Then don't use the MM. The sea of red is depressing. It's awful and has been getting worse for years now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #8 Posted September 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Redcap375 said: Then don't use the MM. The sea of red is depressing. It's awful and has been getting worse for years now. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #9 Posted September 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Lightning_99 said: Every single game you get matched with all out potatos. I see garbage MM too but not quite as bad(?) as mentioned above (or maybe I'm not really looking? - I don't use that 'PR' MM monitor thing). How often do we now see battles that are 'exciting close' or even 'sort of close' as opposed to a roflstomp (W or L)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAI] Nagine Beta Tester 680 posts 3,140 battles Report post #10 Posted September 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Lightning_99 said: Anyone else noticed that MM is get more cancerous by the day? Every single game you get matched with all out potatos. Never thought I would see 4 tier 10 bb's die within 3 min but now I have. MM is getting worse and worse. Is PR based MM ever going to come to WoWs or are we stuck playing with people who are worse than bots. I don't get these types of posts. If everyone is a potato, it should be easy to massacre the whole enemy team with your godly skill and gather all those free Krakens. So what is the issue? You are a bad player who can't even fight potatoes worse than bots? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R-D] JeanLouisII Players 231 posts 11,031 battles Report post #11 Posted September 14, 2021 U all should be happy about all the bad player in your team and the enemy team.... When the game only would be played by super unicums you would have a super boring game... no broadsides, only perfect angled ships, camping, smoke sharing etc. The bad players give me the big damage numbers. Im grateful for every 40% on my team! And you know why? Cause i know there will be a 40% counterpart on the enemy team! Git good. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #12 Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Nagine said: I don't get these types of posts. If everyone is a potato, it should be easy to massacre the whole enemy team with your godly skill and gather all those free Krakens. So what is the issue? You are a bad player who can't even fight potatoes worse than bots? Just yesterday I had a game in Brindisi. I was on A flank with a Kagero and a BB. The Kagero went to the center, leaving me blind. Brindisi can't push alone because you won't last a minute when you get focused. So I had to move to center too. 2 of our BBs pushed on A flank and were destroyed. The Kagero yoloed in the middle and died after a few minutes. The Fletcher on C flank was ineffective and stayed back and even then got killed and ended lowest in XP. The whole game collapsed in minutes. As our team was effectively blind I could not even position myself well. I believe I only did about 25K damage before I was focused and cross fired and died. How easy it indeed was to massacre our team. I however, did not have a chance in hell to make a good game. So how is this fun again? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #13 Posted September 14, 2021 11 hours ago, MacArthur92 said: I just had 37k game on Napoli... Why? Cause my team steamrolled their one in 5 min. I look at the enemy team stats and 3 of their BBs barely do 100k dmg together And many of them have less than 300 games on account. I really don't want to show this here cause it'll be statshaming but this issue is growing. Also people on some ships with 0 PR... More of that as well. Lexington with 17 battles, 20% WR and 9000 dmg average with 0 PR. I'm using the MM monitor for 3 years and in the past it was super rare to find a 0 PR people. Now? Almost everyday. The churn is strong in WG. Lots of newbies thst can spend money for a short while. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy Players 2,021 posts Report post #14 Posted September 14, 2021 It is the same in WoT. Steamroll or get steamrolled in about 80% of the matches. The game is actively being developped into the more fast-paced "action" direction.The sooner a game ends, the better for WG. Faster credit spend, faster lifetime cycle of premium vehicles, more data, more spontaneous purchases. The games do not want to provide full length battles, because they are too demanding for the actual target audience: Click, boom, next game. Even the maps and the spawns are created to make the matches last as short as possible in both titles, e.g. by putting low tier against high tier ships at the flanks to enforce a clockwise or counter clockwise circulation of movement, that results in a stomp on one or the other side. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTT] Lexxmac Players 168 posts 18,273 battles Report post #15 Posted September 14, 2021 This is not a Problem with Matchmaking there are just too many bad Players around! and Wg is doing everything to push them to T10. With all the flags and Camos i think u can make T10 in 23 Battles nowadays so what do you expect than? No new Player is ready for that with that few battles! Also since WG took away the rewards and Achivements there is hardly any incentive in the Game to even get better. I have the MM Monitor on just for the Giggles and having Matches with 1 other Guy in your Team that is above 50% is not rare anymore (and with abo´ve 50 i mean 51-53% not Unicum) Alll the People that are decent in the Game hate CV´s and Subs and cant take it anymore that Teams are getting worse and worse so they stop which leads to even more Bad Players in the Team. But for Wg its only important to not "Stat Shame" lol i mean if you have played over 10k Battles and still havent figured out the simplest mechanics of this Game it might be Time that someone told you....just my 2 cents Ps: I dont really want "Skillbased MM" but you should split the skill evenly over the 2 teams that would probably give better Matches at least 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #16 Posted September 14, 2021 How dare you post outside MM post gulag. 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #17 Posted September 14, 2021 3 hours ago, JeanLouisII said: U all should be happy about all the bad player in your team and the enemy team.... When the game only would be played by super unicums you would have a super boring game... no broadsides, only perfect angled ships, camping, smoke sharing etc. The bad players give me the big damage numbers. Im grateful for every 40% on my team! And you know why? Cause i know there will be a 40% counterpart on the enemy team! Git good. Haha. So you git good preferably against noobs eh? What a special talent Such wow. Much fun. Seal clubbing as a higher gaming goal. 3 hours ago, Nagine said: I don't get these types of posts. If everyone is a potato, it should be easy to massacre the whole enemy team with your godly skill and gather all those free Krakens. So what is the issue? You are a bad player who can't even fight potatoes worse than bots? I don't get this types of postst actually. Some of us need more then just a sadistic sense of self importance beating nobs to a pulp. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #18 Posted September 14, 2021 Their not interested in any form of MM. They don't even put even divs into different teams, never mind players. You can guess which way the battle will go within 2 secs of battle with the MM on. Only rarely am I wrong (and that's because their unicums eat torps or det or something stupid like that). The rest you know how it's gonna roll. Having 3 unicums in a div accounts for a massive bonus to your team. It's like at least you have one great defender, one middlefield and one good striker. Put them together and you have a great chancenof winning when the enemy team barely has one player above 50%. The question is, is just how bad is your own team? Can you kill them quicker than your on dummy team dies. I never look at their team with MM, I look at my own and make decisions based on that. If we have all bad DD players, 9 out of 10 the game is lost. 6 years of experience has told me this. Some games you just have to come to peace with it and try and enjoy it if your playing solo. Hence why you can have 6 kills and over 200,000 damage and 2 caps and STILL lose.. The biggest thing for me, the top thing, is playing your heart out only to see the rest of your team play like muppets and throw it because it's morale sapping. But that is what happens when you don't have any form of MM and let any keyboard licker play the game. As long as they can input their bankcard details with their trotters, WG don't care. Solo play for me died long ago. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R-D] JeanLouisII Players 231 posts 11,031 battles Report post #19 Posted September 14, 2021 Vor 1 Stunde, Europizza sagte: Haha. So you git good preferably against noobs eh? What a special talent Such wow. Much fun. Seal clubbing as a higher gaming goal. I got good playing against the avg playerbase, which is 80percent noobs. Then i started analyzing my own replays, replays of other people etc. Something 95% of the playerbase never would think of. ( they click battle for 20k games and still hope to suddenly find some magic skill, which wont happen) I got better playing against top clans in clanbattles. Still I would not like randoms if they would play like clanbattles in hurricane with everyone being super catious etc. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #20 Posted September 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, JeanLouisII said: Still I would not like randoms if they would play like clanbattles in hurricane with everyone being super catious etc. Yes. You prefer randoms to be a majority collection of windowlickers that you can piss on to your hearts content, we already established that. Maybe that is satisfying to you, it may very well not be enough of a challange for people that don't play clanbattles. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R-D] JeanLouisII Players 231 posts 11,031 battles Report post #21 Posted September 14, 2021 Vor 6 Minuten, Europizza sagte: Yes. You prefer randoms to be a majority collection of windowlickers that you can piss on to your hearts content, we already established that. Maybe that is satisfying to you, it may very well not be enough of a challange for people that don't play clanbattles. then u should be playing clanbattles on high level. then u could see yourself how boring such games are, when everyone knows how to angle and how to kite propably... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #22 Posted September 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, JeanLouisII said: then u should be playing clanbattles on high level. then u could see yourself how boring such games are, when everyone knows how to angle and how to kite propably... You've pinpointed the exact reason why I never played clanbattles: stale gameplay. What puzzles me is that you seem to agree that random matches have 80% rubbish players in them, but you somehow find that perfectly fine, because you wouldn't like random matches to become the exact opposite where 80% of the players are godlike p.e. clanbattles. That's a false dillemma sir ^^ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R-D] JeanLouisII Players 231 posts 11,031 battles Report post #23 Posted September 14, 2021 Vor 3 Minuten, Europizza sagte: You've pinpointed the exact reason why I never played clanbattles: stale gameplay. What puzzles me is that you seem to agree that random matches have 80% rubbish players in them, but you somehow find that perfectly fine, because you wouldn't like random matches to become the exact opposite where 80% of the players are godlike p.e. clanbattles. That's a false dillemma sir ^^ ??? u are saying u dont play cbs cause of stale gameplay but u want randoms to become static gameplay? or i missunderstood u. i dont know. i play randoms when i want a funny evening, some chill gameplay, some good hits etc. i play clanbattles if i want to get tested to my max skill and have some competitive gameplay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #24 Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, JeanLouisII said: ??? u are saying u dont play cbs cause of stale gameplay but u want randoms to become static gameplay? or i missunderstood u. i dont know. Nope. I'm saying you are forcing a false dillemma. You are projecting a binary choice between either 80% bad players or 80% good players. That's simply too black and white of an argument. 55 minutes ago, JeanLouisII said: i play randoms when i want a funny evening, some chill gameplay, some good hits etc. i play clanbattles if i want to get tested to my max skill and have some competitive gameplay. Yes, I already got that. You play randoms when you feel like pissing on 80% noobs (or as you call it 'chill gameplay'). You play clanbattles to get tested and 'enjoy' competetive gameplay. Actually you think clanbattles are too static. For anyone not playing clanbattles because of its stale gameplay, currently, the 80% noobs you claim in randoms, are making random matches a very poor and unsatisfying gaming enviroment to play pvp in. Random matches are WG's self proclaimed main game mode. It would be great if random matches had only 50% of your claimed noobs in it for example, to make it a bit more interesting. It's like you enjoy being a high level amateur boxer, but half the time you feel an urge to enter a special league, created by sheer incompetence by the developer, where you punch kittens in the face just to relax yourself for entertainment. Simply not good enough if one is not into sadism much. Edited September 14, 2021 by Europizza I cant seem to choose between babies or kittens 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAI] Nagine Beta Tester 680 posts 3,140 battles Report post #25 Posted September 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Camperdown said: Just yesterday I had a game in Brindisi. I was on A flank with a Kagero and a BB. The Kagero went to the center, leaving me blind. Brindisi can't push alone because you won't last a minute when you get focused. So I had to move to center too. 2 of our BBs pushed on A flank and were destroyed. The Kagero yoloed in the middle and died after a few minutes. The Fletcher on C flank was ineffective and stayed back and even then got killed and ended lowest in XP. The whole game collapsed in minutes. As our team was effectively blind I could not even position myself well. I believe I only did about 25K damage before I was focused and cross fired and died. How easy it indeed was to massacre our team. I however, did not have a chance in hell to make a good game. So how is this fun again? Yesterday you had a game where your team let you down. Tomorrow you will have a game where enemy team will crumble and you might be the one who forced them to do that. Both teams have players of varying skill levels, not "all bot potatoes, except the unlucky unicum ME" 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites