Taking kill stealing to a new level

[Baylor98]

I was in a ranking match in a Fubuki and launched a spread of torps at an approaching Bayern. A DD from my own team nearby accelerated and turned into the path of my torps, blocking them and taking the hits (no damage to him of course) while launching his own torps into the Bayern (now point blank) to take the kill.

 

Has anyone else seen this kind of kill stealing? where someone takes advantage of there being no friendly fire damage any more?

[Klopirat]

Vor 1 Minute, Baylor98 sagte:

Has anyone else seen this kind of kill stealing? where someone takes advantage of there being no friendly fire damage any more?

or maybe the other DD was looking to the Bayern and didn't notice your torps (since there is no warning about friendly torps anymore)?

[Anthoniusii]

Yes all teh time. Since the team kill removed everyone uses their ships to block your fire against a target espesialy for misions preventing you to complete them.

[Baylor98]

Just now, Klopirat said:

or maybe the other DD was looking to the Bayern and didn't notice your torps (since there is no warning about friendly torps anymore)?

 

 

We were both sat behind an island and waiting for the Bayern to come around in range. He knew I was there and obviously knew full well what he was doing!

[MementoMori_6030]

Nobody can claim ownership of a target, so "kill stealing" does not exist.

[DirtyHeddy]

3 minutes ago, Baylor98 said:

Has anyone else seen this kind of kill stealing? where someone takes advantage of there being no friendly fire damage any more?

Yes, in COOP it happens more frequently, and I have to admit, I have done it already myself.

 

I was against removal of friendly fire, but WG was for shure aware of moves like this.

[Figment]

I've seen it happen unintentionally many times. It's annoying that the warnings are gone. I prefer a return to the old situation for nothing is more fun than setting up a crossfire of torpedoes on a target together with that target's ally. :)

[MimosA_A]

Eh perhaps you did something to tick him off or whatever.

 

Either way, who cares. There's no such thing as killstealing. And if you both were in the same place doing the same thing, one of you should have left to go be useful somewhere else long before this situation occurred.

[hellhound666]

nothing new in that and was done in coop even before the removal of team dmg when you needed a kill

[Spartan_93]

If you don't get the kill, you didn't earn it => no killstealing.

[ColonelPete]

34 minutes ago, Baylor98 said:

I was in a ranking match in a Fubuki and launched a spread of torps at an approaching Bayern. A DD from my own team nearby accelerated and turned into the path of my torps, blocking them and taking the hits (no damage to him of course) while launching his own torps into the Bayern (now point blank) to take the kill.

 

Has anyone else seen this kind of kill stealing? where someone takes advantage of there being no friendly fire damage any more?

Where is the theft?

31 minutes ago, Baylor98 said:

 

 

We were both sat behind an island and waiting for the Bayern to come around in range. He knew I was there and obviously knew full well what he was doing!

So you both were waiting for the enemy and planned to torp him. Maybe he thought you were trying to steal from him...

[Baylor98]

Just now, ColonelPete said:

Where is the theft?

So you both were waiting for the enemy and planned to torp him. Maybe he thought you were trying to steal from him...

I was not annoyed by this. Amused, yes! We were winning easily. I just posted this here as it was clearly deliberate and I had never seen the like before. Though if the act cost the team it would be really frustrating. Such as if he'd blocked my torps then been killed by the Bayern before he could fire, or if his torps had missed.

[Baylor98]

Just now, ColonelPete said:

Where is the theft?

So you both were waiting for the enemy and planned to torp him. Maybe he thought you were trying to steal from him...

I was not annoyed by this. Amused, yes! We were winning easily. I just posted this here as it was clearly deliberate and I had never seen the like before. Though if the act cost the team it would be really frustrating. Such as if he'd blocked my torps then been killed by the Bayern before he could fire, or if his torps had missed.

[Anarchy___]

Vor 37 Minuten, Spartan_93 sagte:

If you don't get the kill, you didn't earn it => no killstealing.

Did you actually read the post ??? Another player intercepted the torps on purpose ... with team damage that guy would have been sunk

[Sink_Different]

1 hour ago, Anarchy___ said:

Did you actually read the post ??? Another player intercepted the torps on purpose ... with team damage that guy would have been sunk

You have only one side of the story yet you issue your judgement.

I hope you're not a lawyer a judge or cop.

[KratosTheUnforgiving]

WG believe most players ( maybe designed for the DEVS who only play handful of games ) too dumb to steer and avoid torps a the same time, so just remove the damage, although do enough friendly fire you still go pink and get a 2 match penalty in co-op

[BLUB__BLUB]

4 hours ago, Anthoniusii said:

....espesialy for misions preventing you to complete them.

Well, while I do believe that there are those that think fighting for the same piece of meat is good,

but I do not think that those same peeps are smart enough to predict if you are grinding a mission... 

...and it is very doubtful that they can even tell WHAT mission. 

 

It's just stupid greed. 

[Figment]

29 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Well, while I do believe that there are those that think fighting for the same piece of meat is good,

but I do not think that those same peeps are smart enough to predict if you are grinding a mission... 

...and it is very doubtful that they can even tell WHAT mission. 

 

It's just stupid greed. 

Golden oldie.

[DerpyMcDoom]

Claiming your "kill was stolen" has to be one of the dumbest things you can piss and moan about in game. 

[SolanumTuberosumRex]

7 hours ago, Anthoniusii said:

Yes all teh time. Since the team kill removed everyone uses their ships to block your fire against a target espesialy for misions preventing you to complete them.

I am a fool. I've been noticing this happening, but had no idea that this is what causes people to do that. 😲

[Pukovnik7]

3 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Well, while I do believe that there are those that think fighting for the same piece of meat is good,

but I do not think that those same peeps are smart enough to predict if you are grinding a mission... 

...and it is very doubtful that they can even tell WHAT mission. 

 

It's just stupid greed. 

I wouldn't even call it stupid. Unless they are flooding or have disabled modules, ships lose very little to no performance as they lose HP. So it makes sense to get rid of the low-HP ships first, to reduce enemy's damage output as quickly as possible.

[doerhoff_damian]

Yes these Situations happen. Often the other Ship did not pay attention to you because he is too focused on the enemy. Sometimes he is greedy. Taking out a Battleship helps with Exp and the Stats also look better.

 

These Situations are nothing new. But at least you didn´t become Pink and you didn´t kill your Teammate.

If this was 2016 you would have killed your Teammate and then the Bayern would kill You and Survive. Imagine the Chat.

 

I would just try to avoid any Chance of hitting a Teammate as much as I can.

 

Specially in Random/Ranked Games I only care that we kill the Enemy Ship and hopefully win the Game.

There is nothing more Painfull then seeing an Enemy escape because a Teammate didn´t want to "steal" a Kill.

At the End the Enemy Ship comes back and kills one of our Ships or 2 or 3 and we loose

[BLUB__BLUB]

2 hours ago, Pukovnik7 said:

I wouldn't even call it stupid. Unless they are flooding or have disabled modules, ships lose very little to no performance as they lose HP. So it makes sense to get rid of the low-HP ships first, to reduce enemy's damage output as quickly as possible.

Well yes, but if teammate already has torps, to block the torps and kill him yourself... is stupid.

 

[Pukovnik7]

7 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Well yes, but if teammate already has torps, to block the torps and kill him yourself... is stupid.

 

Assholish first, but yeah, it is also definitely stupid. I mean, end game score is based on damage done, not on kills. So stealing a low-HP ship when there may be a full-HP enemy just a little further away is moronic. But I guess some people just don't care about anything except pretty ribbons.

[Prophecy82]

Sorry, but why care in a ranked game? 

You play for the win, thats all. Kills are nice, but in the end they dont matter... especially in ranked.