When do people realize the truth

[Wingoka]

WG does not give a dam about your Opinion about stuff.

They do anything they want and can make money on, they only want community input from your wallet's, they don't even listen to their own CC.

What gives you any hope they will ever listen to the people playing them game ? 

 

3 Issues have been around for a very long time and instead off trying to fix it they keep inventing new stuff to put in game.  

 

1 The report system it  is flawed and useless feelgood tool for Bad Players every time someone does not do like they want they push button Misbehaviur in chat, there are so many better ways to make a report system for those who violate people using very bad language and personal threats or racisms and other stuff.

 

2 WG keeps on to think they can balance CV's then they put in out off this world overpowered CV FDR, look at the real issue here CV's destroy gameplay options in ranked and Clan battles, you remove the tactical use off your ship's becourse CV tell's everyone where they are within 2 min.

 

3 Uboat's they are implemented into a form off gameplay they never participated in during wars, they are not fleet ship's they do not have the speed and they way to easy to kill when discovered, they would be a fine addition to a convoy scenario where they could ambush a convoy and defenders could fight them off. second part off uboat disaster in game is you risk being on a team that has 1 ship with ASW equipment becourse WG decided to only mount it on certain ships and ofcourse did not calibrate MM to adjust for ASW. 

 

Don't be fooled by WG they will go out with some exscuse about they are sorry and will listen more in the future, but this has been going on for 6 years now they promise to listen but do just like before. 

 

Don't worry this will not be here for long, they will have it deleted for "Topic has gone out off hand and has become bla.bla. "

[MementoMori_6030]

You just have to add your own choices.

[ColonelPete]

12 minutes ago, Wingoka said:

WG does not give a dam about your Opinion about stuff.

Then they seem to have prophetic powers when WoT and WoWs are still running after all these years without listening to feedback.

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

42 minutes ago, Wingoka said:

WG does not give a dam about your Opinion about stuff.

They do anything they want and can make money on, they only want community input from your wallet's, they don't even listen to their own CC.

What gives you any hope they will ever listen to the people playing them game ? 

 

3 Issues have been around for a very long time and instead off trying to fix it they keep inventing new stuff to put in game.  

 

1 The report system it  is flawed and useless feelgood tool for Bad Players every time someone does not do like they want they push button Misbehaviur in chat, there are so many better ways to make a report system for those who violate people using very bad language and personal threats or racisms and other stuff.

 

2 WG keeps on to think they can balance CV's then they put in out off this world overpowered CV FDR, look at the real issue here CV's destroy gameplay options in ranked and Clan battles, you remove the tactical use off your ship's becourse CV tell's everyone where they are within 2 min.

 

3 Uboat's they are implemented into a form off gameplay they never participated in during wars, they are not fleet ship's they do not have the speed and they way to easy to kill when discovered, they would be a fine addition to a convoy scenario where they could ambush a convoy and defenders could fight them off. second part off uboat disaster in game is you risk being on a team that has 1 ship with ASW equipment becourse WG decided to only mount it on certain ships and ofcourse did not calibrate MM to adjust for ASW. 

 

Don't be fooled by WG they will go out with some exscuse about they are sorry and will listen more in the future, but this has been going on for 6 years now they promise to listen but do just like before. 

 

Don't worry this will not be here for long, they will have it deleted for "Topic has gone out off hand and has become bla.bla. "

1. Works as intended.

2. FDR was just nerfed this patch *tries to keep straight face*

3. This is an arcade pew pew game, not a sim.

 

[Andrewbassg]

39 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

You just have to add your own choices.

Good choice.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

37 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Then they seem to have prophetic powers when WoT and WoWs are still running after all these years without listening to feedback.

As do you, seemingly effortlessly passing 32.000 posts on just this forum-of-void. Or maybe it's just that special blundering-your-way-through-a-sea-of-crap quality that keeps them going ^^

 

Also, are you saying people like Paul Biya of Cameroon have prophetic powers? 

[bigdoguk]

They are now showing their true colours now by willing to throw a guy under the bus that doesn't even work in the wow department. 

I'm descusted now by their plans for the game we had great ccs that left that where not being listened to about problems with the game and ignored time after time 

Shame on you WG. 

[Pametrada]

52 minutes ago, Wingoka said:

WG does not give a dam about your Opinion about stuff.

 

Don't worry - that particular truth was realized a long time ago.

[Andrewbassg]

44 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Then they seem to have prophetic powers when WoT and WoWs are still running after all these years without listening to feedback.

Hey Malik! Is that you?

[ColonelPete]

3 minutes ago, Europizza said:

As do you, seemingly effortlessly passing 32.000 posts on just this forum-of-void. Or maybe it's just that special blundering-your-way-through-a-sea-of-crap quality that keeps them going ^^

 

Also, are you saying people like Paul Biya of Cameroon have prophet powers? 

So you have nothing to say about the topic and instead want to start an off-topic meta discussion about me? Riiight...

And people wonder why I have so many posts, when I am regularly running into people like you

 

Btw. do you think people with guns are standing behind players and force them to play WG games and spend money on them or why do you bring up the comparisson to Paul Biya?

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

24 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

So you have nothing to say about the topic and instead want to start an off-topic meta discussion about me? Riiight...

And people wonder why I have so many posts, when I am regularly running into people like you

Sure I do. I actually followed up on your valuable contribution to the topic by wondering if instead of prophetic powers, something way more simple might be an explanation as of why WG is still at operating depths (pun intended). Care to elaborate how 'prophetic powers' are of any value added to the quote you posted?

[ColonelPete]

24 minutes ago, Europizza said:

Sure I do. I actually followed up on your valuable contribution to the topic by wondering if instead of prophetic powers, something way more simple might be an explanation as of why WG is still at operating depths (pun intended). Care to elaborate how 'prophetic powers' are of any value added to the quote you posted?

What is this "something way more simple"?

 

And yes, when you ignore player feedback, like it is claimed, and still manage to have success and attract many players, some of which play for years like you, then something else must tell you how to design your game. Maybe that is where prophetic powers come in.

[Lootboxer]

16 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

What is this "something way more simple"?

 

And yes, when you ignore player feedback, like it is claimed, and still manage to have success and attract many players, some of which play for years like you, then something else must tell you how to design your game. Maybe that is where prophetic powers come in.

He is not playing. And your post was at least as much off topic as his. Now feel free to unswer me with another baby step towards 33000 posts.

[NaikonP]

1 hour ago, Andrewbassg said:

Hey Malik! Is that you?

I think he just really likes Malik's sausage.

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

22 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

And yes, when you ignore player feedback, like it is claimed, and still manage to have success and attract many players, some of which play for years like you, then something else must tell you how to design your game. Maybe that is where prophetic powers come in.

Not trying to be argumentative (so, I am departing out of character for this post), but I would just like to humbly suggest, in a friendly manner, that an alternative explanation is entirely plausible.

(It applies to my own experience, at least, and I suspect that it applies to others)

 

We kept playing for so long because we stupidly hoped that things would improve.

 

Thank you for reading this post.

[ColonelPete]

4 minutes ago, WarGamblingUnlimited said:

He is not playing. And your post was at least as much off topic as his. Now feel free to unswer me with another baby step towards 33000 posts.

You want to tell me he was not playing for years?

And please elaborate how my post was off topic.

Just now, Admiral_H_Nelson said:

Not trying to be argumentative (so, I am departing out of character for this post), but I would just like to humbly suggest, in a friendly manner, that an alternative explanation is entirely plausible.

(It applies to my own experience, at least, and I suspect that it applies to others)

 

We kept playing for so long because we stupidly hoped that things would improve.

 

Thank you for reading this post.

So new players start playing the game, because they hope something will change?

And you are hoping for a change for six years now?

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

1 minute ago, ColonelPete said:

You want to tell me he was not playing for years?

And please elaborate how my post was off topic.

So new players start playing the game, because they hope something will change?

And you are hoping for a change for six years now? 

No - The older set of players carried on for a long time hoping for improvement. I never mentioned anything about new players, as you well know.

 

Yes, I carried on until March 2021, having started in September 2015 (though with many breaks in playing).

 

My determination to try and hold out was strong. Very strong.

 

Almost as strong as your determination to post so much on the Forum!

 

[Lootboxer]

2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

So new players start playing the game, because they hope something will change?

No they start because they don't know what are they going into. They will spend more then on AAA game on new shiny premium or two and then they leave in disgust and new are coming. Because there is no other similar naval gunnery game with so nice visuals there's not much competition for weegreedy.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

45 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

What is this "something way more simple"?

 

And yes, when you ignore player feedback, like it is claimed, and still manage to have success and attract many players, some of which play for years like you, then something else must tell you how to design your game. Maybe that is where prophetic powers come in.

You can find it in my reaction to your intial post.

 

So let me see if I get this right. You're claiming that your initial sarcasm can be explained away into something less gnarly? I don't agree. By the way, OP is not saying WG is disregarding player feedback, but player opinion. We both know there's a huge difference in scope between the two. So I'd say your initial reaction to the quote is misdirected at best. As for being able to design a compelling game, almost no one here is disputing WOWS started out as a game with great potential. It's been suggested that recent years WG and Lesta have started to drop the bucket, a lot. Leadership matters. Right now populating the game is heavily leaning on marketing techniques rather then well designed new gameplay.

 

[hellhound666]

2 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Then they seem to have prophetic powers when WoT and WoWs are still running after all these years without listening to feedback.

i wouldn't call it prophetic ...

[Andrewbassg]

3 minutes ago, Europizza said:

You can find it in my reaction to your intial post.

 

So let me see if I get this right. You're claiming that your initial sarcasm can be explained away into something less gnarly? I don't agree. By the way, OP is not saying WG is disregarding player feedback, but player opinion. We both know there's a huge difference in scope between the two. So I'd say your initial reaction to the quote is misdirected at best. As for being able to design a compelling game, almost no one here is disputing WOWS started out as a game with great potential. It's been suggested that recent years WG and Lesta have started to drop the bucket, a lot. Leadership matters. Right now populating the game is heavily leaning on marketing techniques rather then well designed gameplay.

 

WP.

[ColonelPete]

13 minutes ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said:

No - The older set of players carried on for a long time hoping for improvement. I never mentioned anything about new players, as you well know.

And still they join and continue to play, but WG never listens to opinions. Man, they must be good...

11 minutes ago, WarGamblingUnlimited said:

No they start because they don't know what are they going into. They will spend more then on AAA game on new shiny premium or two and then they leave in disgust and new are coming. Because there is no other similar naval gunnery game with so nice visuals there's not much competition for weegreedy.

So they continue playing and spending on a game they do not like. Interesting...

10 minutes ago, Europizza said:

You can find it in my reaction to your intial post.

 

So let me see if I get this right. You're claiming that your initial sarcasm can be explained away into something less gnarly? I don't agree. By the way, OP is not saying WG is disregarding player feedback, but player opinion. We both know there's a huge difference in scope between the two. So I'd say your initial reaction to the quote is misdirected at best. As for being able to design a compelling game, almost no one here is disputing WOWS started out as a game with great potential. It's been suggested that recent years WG and Lesta have started to drop the bucket, a lot. Leadership matters. Right now populating the game is heavily leaning on marketing techniques rather then well designed gameplay.

 

Feel free to exchance feedback for opinion in my post, if that makes you feel more comfortable.

And I was not asking for your reaction, but an answer to my question. But that is ok. I did not expect much.

[RAYvenMP]

listening to feedback is double-edged sword. People play few battles and suddenly they are experts on design, balance or marketing, but in reality they would not be able to manage even hotdog stand. There is often so much stupidity and contradictions in "players feedback" that is outright impossible to even take it seriously.

 

Now about the "not listening to CCs". WG used to take CCs feedback somewhat seriously (remember old Research burro?), they had formal way of communicating the feedback, it was very much encouraged to do it (they were getting CC and ship codes for doing so, the more they did the more stuff they got). Then the bigger CCs got greedy and lazy, they found out that it is much more profitable to share(sell) their feedback on streams instead of filling some paperwork. Also their feedback turned from factual into dramatic, because drama sells better, it turned from "let talk this range, AP values, armor etc " into "OMG REMOVE CVs" and "This ship XY will kill the game" and crap like that. That is not feedback, no single company would scrap millions sunk into assets and development because some wanna-be-pop-star that is making a living out of streaming your product is saying so.

They had influence but killed it by making stupid decisions because they thought they are special so now they can tell WG what to release and what not.

LWM was making a ship reviews for [edited]sake, got a chance to design something, WG did not like it, went full emo-mode. Yes WG could have communicated it better, but everyone who ever worked in some sort of project knows that it may get rejected, sometimes they tell you why, sometimes they just run to competition without a word. Its depressing and annoying but life is like that sometimes.

[KyraTiger]

 

28 minutes ago, Europizza said:

 

It looks like holliday season is over: our beast is back in town!

 

 

[Lootboxer]

22 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

So they continue playing and spending on a game they do not like. Interesting... 

I said clearly that they leave but whatever...