[POI--] Taschkent_ Players 255 posts 12,858 battles Report post #1 Posted September 8, 2021 Seems like Gneisenau013 has been thrown under the bus. Although repeated pleas from Chobbitsu and LittleWhiteMouse that he hadn't done anything wrong. His Wargamin-tags have been removed from the Profile. Source: https://forum.worldofwarships.com/profile/1015450271-elias_k_grodin/?fbclid=IwAR1wTh-R2QilFXkoa7Vo_p76NO8pjeDwTPvsnZ-cJmy9COErA9spMSbi8qc EDIT: ist has been confirmed that he got fired. 3 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #2 Posted September 8, 2021 "Supreme leader, the plebs demand your head." - "But I want to keep my head." - "Well, you f*cked up..." - "Just give them another one's head." - "But it was you who..." - "Blabla find some innocent expendable sacrificial lamb and behead him." - "Da, supreme leader." - "That's a good lad." 10 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #3 Posted September 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said: Just give them another one's head." Looks as if Stalin's ghost is stalking the halls of 'some dark tower' (in Cyprus, perchance?) 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #4 Posted September 8, 2021 And people wonder why we dislike this company and how its run? And why we call them out and want better services, mechanics and no gambling for items in-game? It's why you don't falter as these people will always try and look for an easy way out moral or not. 13 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #5 Posted September 8, 2021 just another drama post. 1 6 13 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Bellegar Beta Tester 1,866 posts Report post #6 Posted September 8, 2021 Nothing to see here, just WG doing WG things by killing the messenger instead of committing to actual meaningful changes 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABUS] Chaoskraehe Freibeuter, WoWs Wiki Team 1,291 posts 10,716 battles Report post #7 Posted September 8, 2021 Vor 35 Minuten, MementoMori_6030 sagte: "Supreme leader, the plebs demand your head." - "But I want to keep my head." - "Well, you f*cked up..." - "Just give them another one's head." - "But it was you who..." - "Blabla find some innocent expendable sacrificial lamb and behead him." - "Da, supreme leader." - "That's a good lad." True Leadership! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Bellegar Beta Tester 1,866 posts Report post #8 Posted September 8, 2021 For those looking for confirmation: https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/240702-premium-ship-review-yukon/?do=findComment&comment=5566243 WG drama continues. This episode features big boss Evin trying to censor the Yukon debacle by shutting down the thread. All in the name of full transparancy and improved communications of course! 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #9 Posted September 8, 2021 Vor 3 Minuten, Bellegar sagte: This episode features big boss Evin trying to censor the Yukon debacle by shutting down the thread. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evin_Prison Must be coincidence. 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #10 Posted September 8, 2021 Such a shame. I remember Ev1n to be a rather nice guy. Pity... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Bellegar Beta Tester 1,866 posts Report post #11 Posted September 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, piritskenyer said: Such a shame. I remember Ev1n to be a rather nice guy. Pity... Yup me too. I met him once when WG did their first 'after the fair beer fest' after Gamescom in a bar a few years ago and he seemed a nice guy. But you can't ignore how he's been in the position to do something about all this crap for a while now, and nothing changed for the better.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #12 Posted September 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bellegar said: But you can't ignore how he's been in the position to do something about all this crap for a while now, and nothing changed for the better... I don't disagree, but I wonder how much autonomy/influence anyone outside Lord High (bad) Suit level in Russia actually has on WG's conduct/direction. Personally, most of my ire is directed at the (apparently) unprincipled at the highest levels who set the tone and direction of the company, rather than the foot-soldiers (as it were)... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NaikonP Players 82 posts 8,871 battles Report post #13 Posted September 8, 2021 So it seems Gneisenaus Boss in the World of Tanks team just resigned over how WG treated Gneisenau and how they wanted to use him as a scapegoat. 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #14 Posted September 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, NaikonP said: So it seems Gneisenaus Boss in the World of Tanks team just resigned over how WG treated Gneisenau and how they wanted to use him as a scapegoat. If that's even close to the truth of the situation, then the WOWS management are even more poisonous than I (we?) suspected, and that takes some doing... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGP2W] LemonadeWarriorITA [WGP2W] Beta Tester 1,669 posts 8,186 battles Report post #15 Posted September 8, 2021 Guess the leadership is playing this game after all. First some solo games to get the toxicity flowing to do some management. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABUS] Chaoskraehe Freibeuter, WoWs Wiki Team 1,291 posts 10,716 battles Report post #16 Posted September 8, 2021 It gets worse and worse every week. I fear what will happen next week. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #17 Posted September 8, 2021 I'm done with this disgrace of a show. There is no decency to be found towars their own even. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Bellegar Beta Tester 1,866 posts Report post #18 Posted September 8, 2021 40 minutes ago, Verblonde said: I don't disagree, but I wonder how much autonomy/influence anyone outside Lord High (bad) Suit level in Russia actually has on WG's conduct/direction. Personally, most of my ire is directed at the (apparently) unprincipled at the highest levels who set the tone and direction of the company, rather than the foot-soldiers (as it were)... I agree. He has most likely zero influence on the direction the game's taking (although he was employed in Saint Petersburg for a while alongside Sub_Octavian). But even in his new position (and previous position on EU), he is fully in charge of communications. At least on his own server. And we all know where those have been going lately.... 36 minutes ago, NaikonP said: So it seems Gneisenaus Boss in the World of Tanks team just resigned over how WG treated Gneisenau and how they wanted to use him as a scapegoat. Wow. Just wow. First of all, good to see there are still people in WG who will do the right thing. But the amount of contempt WG has even for its employees just boggles the mind. I truly hope this will also be picked up by those news sites that covered WOWS earlier.... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SWN] Asatori Players 377 posts 11,666 battles Report post #19 Posted September 8, 2021 Who would have guessed that the "important message to the community" would become a series? Because I feel a second version coming up soon... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,322 battles Report post #20 Posted September 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Asatori said: Who would have guessed that the "important message to the community" would become a series? Because I feel a second version coming up soon... Won't happen, that was all planned. WG looked us in the eye, said they were sorry, promised to improve, dropped their pants and expelled a liquid mass of chunky diarrhea all over the table and floor. While still looking into our eyes. The good people are all leaving or left. 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Bellegar Beta Tester 1,866 posts Report post #21 Posted September 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Aragathor said: WG looked us in the eye, said they were sorry, promised to improve, dropped their pants and expelled a liquid mass of chunky diarrhea all over the table and floor. While still looking into our eyes. Could you not say stuff like this? I easily visualise things, and I did not need this mental image 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #22 Posted September 8, 2021 34 minutes ago, Asatori said: Who would have guessed that the "important message to the community" would become a series? Because I feel a second version coming up soon... Don't think so. Writing an apology while pointing downward is all fine and dandy. Writing one pointing up, not very likely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Bellegar Beta Tester 1,866 posts Report post #23 Posted September 8, 2021 A week ago, LittleWhiteMouse had this to say over on NA: Source: https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/243545-community-time-with-ev1n-and-mademoisail-825/?do=findComment&comment=5559238 I'm starting to think Gneisenau was fired because of his inability to cool the tempers. I know Miss Mouse doesn't want the Rebel Leader role, but let's be honest, she kinda is. I just wish she would seek publicity. I can't imagine there would be gaming media that woudn't want to publish her Yukon story, including the current Gneisenau aftermath. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #24 Posted September 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Bellegar said: I'm starting to think Gneisenau was fired because of his inability to cool the tempers. I know Miss Mouse doesn't want the Rebel Leader role, but let's be honest, she kinda is. I just wish she would seek publicity. I can't imagine there would be gaming media that woudn't want to publish her Yukon story, including the current Gneisenau aftermath. I suspect this is really about WG's internal politics, for the benefit of head office somebody needs to be seen to carry the can, a convenient low level scapegoat is much more palatable than the people who are really responsible for the mess. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy Players 2,021 posts Report post #25 Posted September 8, 2021 I told you it will not take long for WG to fail hard again. And the sheeps still throw their money at them. Omegalul. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites