[BA_WP] XanderFreemaker Players 6 posts 4,079 battles Report post #1 Posted September 4, 2021 Hi Guys I love playing World of Wars ships, I play it almost every day, not for hrs on end as many do, but it's a lot of fun. SO I start playing in random battle a lot and begin to notice some ships when visible for a moment you see them they then go invisiable but go invisible for the entire battle, at first I did not take much notice, but this can't be right, I soon realized this is basically a big CHEAT and it takes the fun outta the whole battle. In co-op & operations, it's fine, but it's when you're playing Random battles or rank, that's a different story. Sometimes I get lucky and have a random battle or rank without cheaters and it's hella fun, even when I win or lose, but come on, you can't fight against invisible opponents. It is just a "BIG FAT CHEAT" that wargaming needs to address, cuz playing Co-OP does get boring lol I know I am not alone in this thought and even more sure other players have bought this up! I just wanted to get this out there... Thanks for reading XF 12 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy Players 2,021 posts Report post #2 Posted September 4, 2021 Ever heard of spotting and camo mechanics, bro? After +1k battles? Just maybe? 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BA_WP] XanderFreemaker Players 6 posts 4,079 battles Report post #3 Posted September 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Von_Pruss said: Ever heard of spotting and camo mechanics, bro? After +1k battles? Just maybe? At ships less than 15K away from your ship and go invisible for the whole battle! 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 15,160 posts Report post #4 Posted September 4, 2021 Vor 3 Minuten, XanderFreemaker sagte: At ships less than 15K away from your ship and go invisible for the whole battle! maybe you want to check the Detectability Range of DDs? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,649 battles Report post #5 Posted September 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, XanderFreemaker said: At ships less than 15K away from your ship and go invisible for the whole battle! Different ships have different detectability ranges and can remain unspotted for a long time depending on what they do. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy Players 2,021 posts Report post #6 Posted September 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, XanderFreemaker said: At ships less than 15K away from your ship and go invisible for the whole battle! Ever heard of spotting and camo mechanics, bro? After +1k battles? Just maybe? 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #7 Posted September 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, XanderFreemaker said: I know I am not alone in this thought and even more sure other players have bought this up! Yeah....no. There aren't too many people who mistake concealment for cheats. 25 minutes ago, XanderFreemaker said: In co-op & operations, it's fine, but it's when you're playing Random battles or rank, that's a different story. It's almost as if bots don"t care about concealment and just rush in, while players sometimes use their brainpower to their advantage. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] principat121 Modder 6,023 posts 11,475 battles Report post #8 Posted September 4, 2021 49 minutes ago, XanderFreemaker said: but this can't be right, I soon realized this is basically a big CHEAT So, because you cannot answer how the spotting mechanism works, it HAS to be a cheat, right?! Maybe you are just bad and lack the needed insight and knowledge? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABUS] Chaoskraehe Freibeuter, WoWs Wiki Team 1,291 posts 10,709 battles Report post #9 Posted September 4, 2021 As a torpedo DD, in some games you get never spotted. Some ships only get detected when you are 5.4km away. Most DD's sit between 5.8 and 6.5km detection range. Some ships (mostly cruisers) stay the whole game behind islands and if nobody get behind those they also don't get spotted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ROHAN] Ruth_clifton Players 414 posts Report post #10 Posted September 4, 2021 IT IS CALLED CHEATERS 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janneman77 ∞ Players 265 posts 23,584 battles Report post #11 Posted September 4, 2021 maybe you should inform yourself a little more in the game mechanics before you start calling people cheaters maybe this will help https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Detection 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] MixuS [POP] Beta Tester 637 posts 11,993 battles Report post #12 Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Von_Pruss said: Ever heard of spotting and camo mechanics, bro? After +1k battles? Just maybe? How could he? I mean does the game have a tutorial that would tell these things? Are you saying that he should *gasp* use google? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BA_WP] XanderFreemaker Players 6 posts 4,079 battles Report post #13 Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Klopirat said: maybe you want to check the Detectability Range of DDs? thanks, will do 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BA_WP] XanderFreemaker Players 6 posts 4,079 battles Report post #14 Posted September 4, 2021 Il y a 2 heures, Chaoskraehe a dit : As a torpedo DD, in some games you get never spotted. Some ships only get detected when you are 5.4km away. Most DD's sit between 5.8 and 6.5km detection range. Some ships (mostly cruisers) stay the whole game behind islands and if nobody get behind those they also don't get spotted. thanks Il y a 2 heures, Klopirat a dit : maybe you want to check the Detectability Range of DDs? will do 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 61,962 battles Report post #15 Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, XanderFreemaker said: At ships less than 15K away from your ship and go invisible for the whole battle! What type of ship do you mean? Cruiser, destroyer, BB? More specific. Also you can upload a replay so we can see it. Maybe it was a cyclone or the storm mechanics involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BA_WP] XanderFreemaker Players 6 posts 4,079 battles Report post #16 Posted September 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: What type of ship do you mean? Cruiser, destroyer, BB? More specific. Also you can upload a replay so we can see it. Maybe it was a cyclone or the storm mechanics involved. It was a destroyer, I was taken out by torpedos so that the ship had to be at least 6Km away to do it, and was still invisible... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEWD] CLyDeThaMonKeY [LEWD] Beta Tester 436 posts 26,847 battles Report post #17 Posted September 4, 2021 This gotta be troll bait, right? After 1000 battles one would've thought that you know how concealment works... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABUS] Chaoskraehe Freibeuter, WoWs Wiki Team 1,291 posts 10,709 battles Report post #18 Posted September 4, 2021 Vor 1 Stunde, XanderFreemaker sagte: thanks Happy to help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 61,962 battles Report post #19 Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, XanderFreemaker said: It was a destroyer, I was taken out by torpedos so that the ship had to be at least 6Km away to do it, and was still invisible... What DD it was? which tier at least? If it was a Farragut then it can still torp you being invisible if you push into him, he has 6.4km torps but if you push into him he can fire them from 7km (having 6,6km concealment) and you will bump into those torps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Pikkozoikum Players 7,658 posts 13,680 battles Report post #20 Posted September 4, 2021 6 hours ago, XanderFreemaker said: It was a destroyer, I was taken out by torpedos so that the ship had to be at least 6Km away to do it, and was still invisible... DDs are often known as "ninjas". They stay outside of their detection range and use torpedos for stealth attacks. Most DDs (depending on the tier) have concealment around 5.4km and 6.1km. but also Torpedo ranges from 8km to 16km. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K_R_T] SirAmra Alpha Tester 1,075 posts Report post #21 Posted September 5, 2021 I think I got my answer to what type of players gets detected by BBs while doing torpruns on them....and gets shot to shait by their guns. I'd be rich from all the times over the past 10 years I've been called a cheater, by someone who doesn't understand ingame mechs. Last time I got called a cheater was when I sat in smoke and shot a BB. I cheated cause he was still detected....had to be hax. He utterly failed to notice my teams BB spotting him to his left. I was not polite in my reply to him. So OP, do some research before u cry cheaters, hax and what not. It's getting f***ing old. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEWD] CLyDeThaMonKeY [LEWD] Beta Tester 436 posts 26,847 battles Report post #22 Posted September 5, 2021 4 hours ago, SirAmra said: I think I got my answer to what type of players gets detected by BBs while doing torpruns on them....and gets shot to shait by their guns. I'd be rich from all the times over the past 10 years I've been called a cheater, by someone who doesn't understand ingame mechs. Last time I got called a cheater was when I sat in smoke and shot a BB. I cheated cause he was still detected....had to be hax. He utterly failed to notice my teams BB spotting him to his left. I was not polite in my reply to him. So OP, do some research before u cry cheaters, hax and what not. It's getting f***ing old. Sadly its easier to claim its hacks/cheats instead of just doing some research in the game you just started playing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FAB] DocStrangeFruit Players 196 posts 12,058 battles Report post #23 Posted September 5, 2021 Yea i think this guy might need to learn more about spotting mechanics and DDs. For example my Asashio has 16 torps(using reload booster) that have 20km range at 74 kts but my detection range is only 5.4km so i can fire them undetected from pretty much the other side of the map lol My Shimakaze has 12km torps but has 5.6km detectability....i think the guy might need to learn how to play before accusing others of cheating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #24 Posted September 6, 2021 rocket science is a cheat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] piritskenyer Players, Players, Sailing Hamster 3,462 posts 5,363 battles Report post #25 Posted September 6, 2021 May I interest you in some File GreaseTM? Or some new Diesel SparkTM brand sparkplugs, specially developed for Diesel engines. Or if these haven't caught your eye, how about some BlinkONTM blinker fluid? I do wonder what your opinion would have been about pre-0.6.3 gameplay... EDIT: If none of the above products seem right to you, you may have to file an ID-10-T form with costumer service. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
