BanzaiPiluso Players 1,217 posts 13,126 battles Report post #1 Posted September 2, 2021 https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/200 They seem to address every point of concern. No words about subs though. In any case it is a change from other previous messages from WG. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 15,160 posts Report post #2 Posted September 2, 2021 Vor 2 Minuten, BanzaiPiluso sagte: https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/200 They seem to address every point of concern. No words about subs though. In any case it is a change from other previous messages from WG. https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/154071-important-message-for-the-community/ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #3 Posted September 2, 2021 Well well, I've never seen this kind of statement from WG before. Hummm, Their money spreadsheet is not meeting expectations, interesting. Looks like everything has come to a head and the top brass are getting involved now. Shows how bad the state of affaires were between the players and WG. That "PEGI" problem has gone to the top and they have stood up and listened. No mention of subs? Silent denial straight the way which isn't a good start. Are they are being sincere in the slightest? Lets see....Lets see. If I was a gambling man, then I would say no going off the odds and it's same old same old. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atorpad Players 669 posts 19,065 battles Report post #4 Posted September 2, 2021 It is still the same. Just change of tactics If they wanted to change simply they would put missouri in direct sale !!!!! There is saying in my country "Wolf repentance is death"....... They are just trying to win CCs back 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #5 Posted September 2, 2021 They didn´t mention subs.. As far as I know just about everyone is against having them in the game Very strange 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #6 Posted September 2, 2021 @Taschkent_ seems like peegee, uploaded something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #7 Posted September 2, 2021 Vor 4 Minuten, Ronchabale sagte: They didn´t mention subs.. As far as I know just about everyone is against having them in the game I am against having anything/anyone starting with "sub" in the game. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #8 Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Atorpad said: It is still the same. Just change of tactics If they wanted to change simply they would put missouri in direct sale !!!!! There is saying in my country "Wolf repentance is death"....... They are just trying to win CCs back It is not yet sincere. On monetisation they will comply with the law. Yeah, right, we know how that works. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BULLS] DerpyMcDoom [BULLS] Beta Tester 107 posts 14,788 battles Report post #9 Posted September 2, 2021 I tried to read it but when I do all I seem to get instead are really loud fart noises in my head? Anyone else getting this issue? 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #10 Posted September 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Redcap375 said: Well well, I've never seen this kind of statement from WG before. Hummm, Their money spreadsheet is not meeting expectations, interesting. Looks like everything has come to a head and the top brass are getting involved now. Shows how bad the state of affaires were between the players and WG. That "PEGI" problem has gone to the top and they have stood up and listened. No mention of subs? Silent denial straight the way which isn't a good start. Are they are being sincere in the slightest? Lets see....Lets see. If I was a gambling man, then I would say no going off the odds. I think it's time we took the PEGI rating to someone who is familiar within the Worlds of Tank community. Also rated 7+. Anyone got an interesting lead overthere? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King_Of_The_Potatoes ∞ Players 308 posts 4,564 battles Report post #11 Posted September 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Europizza said: I think it's time we took the PEGI rating to someone who is familiar within the Worlds of Tank community. Also rated 7+. Anyone got an interesting lead overthere? Just don't ask quickybaby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] Taschkent_ Players 255 posts 12,858 battles Report post #12 Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, CptBarney said: @Taschkent_ seems like peegee, uploaded something. uwu already read it it looks good it smells good remind me in a year and ask whether it was poisonous 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #13 Posted September 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, King_Of_The_Potatoes said: Just don't ask quickybaby. I don't particularly like the guy, he felt insincere pretty often, but I do think he actually has a thing against lootboxes so I wonder why you would specifically exclude him? ( haven't watched anything of him recently so maybe/probably I'm missing something? ) Orzanel is a streamer I wouldn't approach about this because he did publicly state already he doesn't blame WG since there are mobile games with much worse marketing and mechanics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] Taschkent_ Players 255 posts 12,858 battles Report post #14 Posted September 2, 2021 I find the approach extremely good. It sounds like openness and transparency. I have three questions for for the Developers: But it almost sounds like there are different droprates and/or different mechanics for different regions - depending on the law? Also, China is just one region. Is it the main problem behind there being such a delay or are there other regions that also influence this? Especially under the point of summer sales, I have the feeling that there is some confidence trick going on there - quote:" If something like this happens again, we will offer a refund to all affected players." That means something like "we can't rule out the possibility of it happening again" Can you make a statement on this? I would be very grateful. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #15 Posted September 2, 2021 I will wait and see for a while. See how far their new resolve carries them. Colour me sceptical for the moment. Looking at it from the bright side: it is at least a welcome change from before. Let's see. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,373 battles Report post #16 Posted September 2, 2021 Seen this before talk but no actions. Don't have any hopes up for this one.... Sorry WG. But I have lost any confidence you speaking the truth. To many broken promises in the past to believe you're speaking the truth now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pametrada Players 709 posts 5,022 battles Report post #17 Posted September 2, 2021 You would think that Messrs. Bardovsky and Lisak might have demonstrated their goodwill by putting the Missouri up for straight sale - but of course no action in that matter. All talk and no walk. WG is in a bad place for a company - one where it simply isn't liked any more, and that is an enormous hill to climb back up. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acecel Players 3 posts 958 battles Report post #18 Posted September 2, 2021 No concrete and immediate action in this statement (which took them 1 week or more to write), only a bunch of words from PR. It's pretty clear that they don't plan to do anything to fix all the issues the game currently has (like subs) and never will. And all the stupid excuse regarding the fact they can't display drop chance right now but only next year, so 6-18 months to show a bunch of numbers they already have ... I can see only one reason they would try not to share theses numbers and it's a really bad one ... I had already lost all trust in the company but this message has made it even worse, which i would not think to be possible. Don't let them convince you with a few words and some form of excuse (if we can even say that as they never did admit doing anything wrong ..), they already did the same thing so many time already and each time they broken theirs promises. It's really sad because the game is (was) good, and there is a wonderful community of players that care about it, but they decided to only be driven by money while completely ignoring theirs customers. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #19 Posted September 2, 2021 44 minutes ago, Camperdown said: I will wait and see for a while. See how far their new resolve carries them. Colour me sceptical for the moment. Looking at it from the bright side: it is at least a welcome change from before. Let's see. Pretty much this. Apart from no mention of submarines, the statement does a reasonable job of addressing the key issues that we're mostly annoyed about; that said, it is just that - a statement - all we can do is wait and see if that statement translates into real meaningful action. I won't be holding my breath, but WG may pleasantly surprise us. I have to say, I'm rather surprised to see even this statement - perhaps their income really has taken a kicking? I suppose it's possible that WG realise that they might make more money if they act a little less like incorrigible Richards? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #20 Posted September 2, 2021 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NaikonP Players 82 posts 8,871 battles Report post #21 Posted September 2, 2021 Amazing WG. In the future you promise to offer refunds if you get caught breaking consumer laws again? What a nice company. Also I had to laugh at the part where they said the best way for feedback is to be constructive and well mannered. These guys literally ignored the constructive feedback for years and only now after the community was on fire they felt the need to actually adress the raised concerns. Good job WG you actually proved that the opposite is the case, the only way to get you to give a damn is to create a massive shitstorm. I guess its nice that they actually wrote an apology and tried to adress the issues but my expierence with this company prevents me from believing anything they post until its actually done. They have lost the last shreds of my trust years ago, they have promised to do better dozens of times before and nothing ever happened so I'm not holding my breath. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #22 Posted September 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Verblonde said: Spoiler Pretty much this. Apart from no mention of submarines, the statement does a reasonable job of addressing the key issues that we're mostly annoyed about; that said, it is just that - a statement - all we can do is wait and see if that statement translates into real meaningful action. I won't be holding my breath, but WG may pleasantly surprise us. I have to say, I'm rather surprised to see even this statement - perhaps their income really has taken a kicking? I suppose it's possible that WG realise that they might make more money if they act a little less like incorrigible Richards? 10 minutes ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: Spoiler I'm very torn between these two reactions, I really want to give WG the benefit of the doubt on one side.... and surely it does read nicely even if you have this nagging feeling of heaving heard it all before in some form or another. (ed: btw didn't want to crowd forum with full quotes so I put them in spoilers ). Then you scroll through flamu's responses and go like: mhm that nagging feeling seems to be contagious. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ANV] Starchy_Tuber Players 867 posts 11,120 battles Report post #23 Posted September 2, 2021 Waiting for actual actions, sick and tired of WeeGees "words". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ANV] Starchy_Tuber Players 867 posts 11,120 battles Report post #24 Posted September 2, 2021 Quote Drop rates. We plan to publish all drop rates for all Containers and Random Bundles, and are already working on it. It will take some time, but our hard commitment is that it will happen over the course of next year. A year?!! .... dont make me larf... you telling us that you are going to need a YEAR to "work out" your drop rates? THIS is the sort of blatant BS that gets you a bad name... 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #25 Posted September 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, mtm78 said: that nagging feeling seems to be contagious. Apart from a few delusional optimists, I can't imagine too many people are reading WG's statement and reacting with words to the effect of "yay, they've said sorry, and everything will be rainbows and sunshine henceforth". I really, really want WG to stop being utter, utter and this statement does address the key areas of concern (apart from bloody submarines), but we can only wait and see if words turn into deeds, and the right deeds to boot. I can assure the forum that my failure to run naked through the streets of Toronto before now will be addressed this very night, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen. Words are just that. I'll permit myself a modicum of hope that WG may *finally* pull their finger out and suck marginally less, but I won't *expect* it. Of course, they may surprise us, but a pessimist is never disappointed... 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites