[VPM] petamer Players 2 posts 17,294 battles Report post #1 Posted August 26, 2021 Honestly you had so much time to nerf this thing and now after half a year you decide to nerf a steel ship for 33k steel. That is absolutely unfair. Steel ships are expensive and should not be nerfed after 1-2 months passed. 2 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #2 Posted August 26, 2021 And why not? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R_N_G] Bindolaf_Werebane Players 1,387 posts 12,045 battles Report post #3 Posted August 26, 2021 1. It was 100% certain this would happen. 2. Is the nerf that bad? Remains to be seen. 3. I know it sucks for people who just got it. I got it early and had hundreds of fun games. Even if it's crap now (which I doubt), I got 33000 steel worth of jollies. 4. Time to check out MvR! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[4PHUN] Aixin Players 1,084 posts 7,420 battles Report post #4 Posted August 26, 2021 Its fine its Not much worse after those nerfs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VPM] petamer Players 2 posts 17,294 battles Report post #5 Posted August 26, 2021 Its just annoying nerfing such a high cost steel ship after 6 months, they could have done it in the first 2 months. At least MvR could come back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #6 Posted August 26, 2021 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Tanaka_15 Beta Tester 2,514 posts 20,269 battles Report post #7 Posted August 26, 2021 6 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMA] Prophecy82 Players 3,362 posts 26,028 battles Report post #8 Posted August 26, 2021 Really? You are complainig about a minor nerf to dmg on F(ucking)DR? Pathetic. Btw. I also have FDR. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XODUS] ExplosivesDeliverySystem [XODUS] Beta Tester 29 posts Report post #9 Posted August 26, 2021 You must be new to WG, they always let overpowered stuff sit for at least a year, THEN nerf it, unless it's literally braking the game. They at least used to do it in World of Tanks too (though I haven't played that in a few years at this point) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,469 battles Report post #10 Posted August 26, 2021 I also have FDR and only bought it last month. I don't think nerfing these high value ships is a good idea. However, this is a small nerf and FDR is a horrible thing for the game so I'm fairly happy with the change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #11 Posted August 26, 2021 Pretty irrelevant nerf too be fair, anyone above a PR of 1100-1200 probs won't even notice much those above 1400 probs won't even register it. Thankfully peegee aren't doing sledgehammer nerfs anymore, but chisel nerfs where they hack away at it multiple times instead smashing a huge hole or two large dents into it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,379 battles Report post #12 Posted August 26, 2021 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #13 Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, petamer said: That is absolutely unfair. I fear you may not be in entirely the right place if you're hoping for sympathy apropos a CV nerf... 5 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWDragon Players 1,297 posts Report post #14 Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said: 1. It was 100% certain this would happen. 2. Is the nerf that bad? Remains to be seen. 3. I know it sucks for people who just got it. I got it early and had hundreds of fun games. Even if it's crap now (which I doubt), I got 33000 steel worth of jollies. 4. Time to check out MvR! 1. Yes, after a while WG caves to whatever screeching the "playerbase" and does some minor changes. 2. Yes, FDR is a worst Midway as it was and now got worst. People will still screech because its a CV so its pointless to nerf it since there are no real balance with the ship itself. 3. Nothing changed that much with the ship properly, you just are better off playing Midway ... however nerfing it just makes it a even worst ship that it was. 4 Speaking of MvR, that was another ship nerfed due to the "playerbase" perceived OP, the fact they are looking into German bomb dispersion (outside Loew) shows the problem with those one-trick ponies and what happens when said one-trick no longer works due to nerfs. Also said "playerbase" will complain about the changes because they are only allowed to perform a mediocre trick and be bad at everything else ... that is balance. 3 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] MannequinSkywalker Players 539 posts 8,558 battles Report post #15 Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, petamer said: Honestly you had so much time to nerf this thing and now after half a year you decide to nerf a steel ship for 33k steel. That is absolutely unfair. Steel ships are expensive and should not be nerfed after 1-2 months passed. Learn how to play surface ships better first. FDR has been out for a year and it’s been broken ever since and you obtained it exactly because of this reason and now crying because it will make it just a little more difficult to grief people. Spoiled hypocrite. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SWN] Asatori Players 377 posts 11,666 battles Report post #16 Posted August 26, 2021 Jeez it's hardly a nerf now is it. still OP as crap. They should reduce the health of planes, so the combined AA of 5 ships might finally be able to shoot down 1 plane of FDR. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #17 Posted August 26, 2021 Soviet CVs are coming, let’s do some planned obsolonce on previously popular CV to be able to make money on the new one. Long time no see, huh? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
totally_potato Players 2,533 posts Report post #18 Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, WWDragon said: Also said "playerbase" will complain about the changes because they are only allowed to perform a mediocre trick and be bad at everything else ... that is balance. ikr Kremlin was shouted as 'OP' becoz it actually did the BB role well, of tanking and dishing it out, and had the crap maneuverability and exposed cit, so if it made a mistake, its punishable. Russian Bias btw. Petro will soon follow Krem's footsteps. Its designed to be an AP focused tank, which it does well, and when they will all complain, they will nerf her to the ground, and only make the armor, the standout feature. And everyone will say, they are useless and blame WG for "nerfing" them too hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #19 Posted August 26, 2021 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R_N_G] Bindolaf_Werebane Players 1,387 posts 12,045 battles Report post #20 Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, WWDragon said: 1. Yes, after a while WG caves to whatever screeching the "playerbase" and does some minor changes. 2. Yes, FDR is a worst Midway as it was and now got worst. People will still screech because its a CV so its pointless to nerf it since there are no real balance with the ship itself. 3. Nothing changed that much with the ship properly, you just are better off playing Midway ... however nerfing it just makes it a even worst ship that it was. 4 Speaking of MvR, that was another ship nerfed due to the "playerbase" perceived OP, the fact they are looking into German bomb dispersion (outside Loew) shows the problem with those one-trick ponies and what happens when said one-trick no longer works due to nerfs. Also said "playerbase" will complain about the changes because they are only allowed to perform a mediocre trick and be bad at everything else ... that is balance. I don't play FDR to win lol. I play it to farm fatties and laugh as they burn and flood. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #21 Posted August 26, 2021 Same old. Nerf the old to let in the new. Only nerfed it now after how long??? Simple....As...That. And if you think otherwise, you need some help. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MUMMY] rage1750 Players 824 posts 11,400 battles Report post #22 Posted August 26, 2021 This is not a nerf, this is chemotherapy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #23 Posted August 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, rage1750 said: This is not a nerf, this is chemotherapy Killing the ship and hurting the game? The latter sounds like everyday for WG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] HMS_Britannia Beta Tester 250 posts 44,727 battles Report post #24 Posted August 26, 2021 It's not even a nerf you will hit maybe 4 instead of 5 torps and a little bit less damage with your bombers but the pen diff will make no difference at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWDragon Players 1,297 posts Report post #25 Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, totally_potato said: ikr Kremlin was shouted as 'OP' becoz it actually did the BB role well, of tanking and dishing it out, and had the crap maneuverability and exposed cit, so if it made a mistake, its punishable. Russian Bias btw. Petro will soon follow Krem's footsteps. Its designed to be an AP focused tank, which it does well, and when they will all complain, they will nerf her to the ground, and only make the armor, the standout feature. And everyone will say, they are useless and blame WG for "nerfing" them too hard. Yes, I really dont like Kreml as its short range, seems to have a dispersion the same as KM battleships and I am not seeing the tankiness that much ... Montana feels better and I feel that plays better. Game have a lot of rather unpleasent ships that are called "OP" because if its garbage at everything but one of two areas then it should be good at said areas but they are judged as if their bad stats dont matter, take FDR ... great Alpha sure, never mind the slow planes, glacial regen, lack of a following up strike, garbage torps and Midway dive bombers actually do more damage ... no, lets focus on just the alpha. As much "spreadsheet" is thrown around, certain people arent above of using the exact same thing to demand nerfs based entirely on very selective reading of stats. I feel that the only ships that are acceptable for the "playerbase" are ships with bad stats allaround with some mediocre capabilities or simply entirely average ships ... outside their own bias. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites