[ADRIA] nlegolass Players 125 posts 2,971 battles Report post #1 Posted August 25, 2021 So... It was just a joke, I wasn't brainstorming or anything ! On a more serious note. I'm kind of getting worried here. Most of the jokes and memes on this forum now seem to become a reality a few days later (yeah I know, I'm kind of new here). I'm, as of this day, too scared to joke around about the future of this game. And to be 100% honest, I don't see how gambling mechanisms could go any lower morally. Although the good news is :you guys seem to be really creative about that kind of stuff ! What can we expect now ? I'm afraid to ask... 1 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-F] Sir_Grzegorz Beta Tester 798 posts 16,103 battles Report post #2 Posted August 25, 2021 So it is your fault? Good to know! 1 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ADRIA] nlegolass Players 125 posts 2,971 battles Report post #3 Posted August 25, 2021 Il y a 1 minute, Sir_Grzegorz a dit : So it is your fault? Good to know! I've heard your feedback. I sincerely apologize and will do better in the future. 1 18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,310 battles Report post #4 Posted August 25, 2021 I still dont understand why we or anybody else would try to get a ship that is only special by its name. IF he has credit earning as he is now then maybe maybe would make a little sense but to spend over 400 dollars to get a tech tree ship with radar then we truly are monkeys. Too bad we cant reach ALL the players to boycot this loot boxes and not to buy any of them, but if only 100 players buy this scamboxes they will still make profit. I am so sad that we players cant do anything to stop this kind of gambling and even sader that no rule or regulation in the world doesnt want to stop them. I guess money is buying everything, even integrity... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #5 Posted August 25, 2021 1 22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #6 Posted August 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, nlegolass said: I've heard your feedback. I sincerely apologize and will do better in the future. Currently experiencing some 'technical difficulties' so heres a few lootboxes with a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of getting the tier 12 super stalingrad supercruiser. But before you can use those lootboxes, you must buy some gamble tokens and use those for the roulboxes to get a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance at getting the lootbox above. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ADRIA] nlegolass Players 125 posts 2,971 battles Report post #7 Posted August 25, 2021 Il y a 16 minutes, Wulf_Ace a dit : I still dont understand why we or anybody else would try to get a ship that is only special by its name. IF he has credit earning as he is now then maybe maybe would make a little sense but to spend over 400 dollars to get a tech tree ship with radar then we truly are monkeys. Too bad we cant reach ALL the players to boycot this loot boxes and not to buy any of them, but if only 100 players buy this scamboxes they will still make profit. I am so sad that we players cant do anything to stop this kind of gambling and even sader that no rule or regulation in the world doesnt want to stop them. I guess money is buying everything, even integrity... I don't think this is something that can be done at a "game level". It has to come from national or even European instances. The best thing to do at this point is to speak of such issues, try to be heard, so it becomes a problem that is commonly known by the general public. Luckily more and more people are now playing regularly and are exposed to such mechanisms on daily basis. Although one could argue that knowing of loot-boxes and understanding/recognizing the dangers and threats they imply is a completely different ballgame. There is hope. Countries like Belgium are actively fighting against practices like this. But it takes time. If nothing is done soon, not only this game will be ruined but there is a good chance the whole industry will (or is already) be following the same pattern. Creativity and excellence are two aspects that are already starting to become less and less important inside the gaming industry. Il y a 8 minutes, CptBarney a dit : so heres a few lootboxes with a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of getting the tier 12 super stalingrad supercruiser. But before you can use those lootboxes, you must buy some gamble tokens and use those for the roulboxes to get a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance at getting the lootbox above. Just remember guys, when this happens, you heard it here first, and CptBarney is responsible for the whole shenanigan 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #8 Posted August 25, 2021 Lootboxes have been an ongoing issue in this industry for years now. By now gambling in games is completely normalised. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Tanaka_15 Beta Tester 2,514 posts 20,269 battles Report post #9 Posted August 25, 2021 So, how does it works I pay dubloons, get som shity flags, and some new currency i cen use to buy lootbox? and to get t8 random prem ship i need to by 11 crates for 1500 dub each ? So i can get a t8 ship for dooblones, with cupon cheaper? This is just wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COOOP] Shirakami_Kon Players 2,624 posts 12,776 battles Report post #10 Posted August 25, 2021 I expected no less than Wargambling honoring it's name. Well done. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy Players 2,021 posts Report post #11 Posted August 25, 2021 The po* train travels onwards, all aboard! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #12 Posted August 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said: I still dont understand why we or anybody else would try to get a ship that is only special by its name. IF he has credit earning as he is now then maybe maybe would make a little sense but to spend over 400 dollars to get a tech tree ship with radar then we truly are monkeys. Too bad we cant reach ALL the players to boycot this loot boxes and not to buy any of them, but if only 100 players buy this scamboxes they will still make profit. I am so sad that we players cant do anything to stop this kind of gambling and even sader that no rule or regulation in the world doesnt want to stop them. I guess money is buying everything, even integrity... The name carries weight, especially on NA, and among WW2/History enthusiasts. Then there are the whales... ehem.. sorry... collectors out there who are somewhat obsessed when it comes to rare ships. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #13 Posted August 25, 2021 37 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said: I still dont understand why we or anybody else would try to get a ship that is only special by its name. I get why people might want a particular ship because of its history etc. even if it's a bit rubbish in-game (I bought Tiger for example, albeit at 25% off, and she's widely regarded as being pretty pants); what I absolutely don't get is paying way over the odds for same. If I didn't have MO already, there is no way I'd be interested in the new offering - it's simply poor value. IMO. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ADRIA] nlegolass Players 125 posts 2,971 battles Report post #14 Posted August 25, 2021 Il y a 14 minutes, Europizza a dit : Lootboxes have been an ongoing issue in this industry for years now. By now gambling in games is completely normalised. It's normalised for some people and some company. Doesn't mean most of us accept or should accept it. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] MrWastee Players 4,255 posts 33,584 battles Report post #15 Posted August 25, 2021 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,310 battles Report post #16 Posted August 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: The name carries weight, especially on NA, and among WW2/History enthusiasts. Then there are the whales... ehem.. sorry... collectors out there who are somewhat obsessed when it comes to rare ships. I like Iowa class ships but I have to be ultra dumb to sink so much money into just getting 1 ship with special name. I ll just repaint my Iowa with new name. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #17 Posted August 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Verblonde said: If I didn't have MO already, there is no way I'd be interested in the new offering - it's simply poor value. IMO. not only its totally overpriced but you get also less than old Missouri users. They should give us for that ship the 200% credit bonus with this kind price 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PWN3D] Peffers Beta Tester 1,063 posts 22,995 battles Report post #18 Posted August 25, 2021 34 minutes ago, Europizza said: Lootboxes have been an ongoing issue in this industry for years now. By now gambling in games is completely normalised. normalised but not right. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #19 Posted August 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Peffers said: normalised but not right. Yes, exactly. What's the next phase in gaming monetization. WG will hold your ships after battle for ransom? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #20 Posted August 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, nlegolass said: It's normalised for some people and some company. Doesn't mean most of us accept or should accept it. Indeed, you should not accept it, and not buy lootboxes or gamble in this game. Even opt out on other monetisation schemes that rely on pressure rather then invitation. (Dockyard etc) Then again... The WOWS and WOT populus has happily cohorted around WG's online gambling and lootboxes for quite a few years now. We buy lootboxes by the gazillions. It's that exact reason why it's so succesfull and why it gets worse each turn. WG can 'get away with it' becasue demand is high. It's fine, to each his/her own. But the game suffers dearly from it as far as I'm concerned. This stuff is not for me. Gambling bores me. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #21 Posted August 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, Peffers said: normalised but not right. Still not right, absolutely ^^ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-F] OldPappy Players 758 posts 21,952 battles Report post #22 Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, nlegolass said: I've heard your feedback. I sincerely apologize and will do better in the future. No no no no……! We don’t use that kind of language here in WOWS!!!🧐 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BASIC] koliber_1984 Players 1,113 posts 27,807 battles Report post #23 Posted August 25, 2021 How could you! BTW if all will go according to my plan, i can have Diana/Diana Lima/Oleg/Aurora inside this silly TII-IV crate. yay! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CDD] Dutchy_2019 Players 1,927 posts 13,499 battles Report post #24 Posted August 25, 2021 2 hours ago, nlegolass said: So... It was just a joke, I wasn't brainstorming or anything ! On a more serious note. I'm kind of getting worried here. Most of the jokes and memes on this forum now seem to become a reality a few days later (yeah I know, I'm kind of new here). I'm, as of this day, too scared to joke around about the future of this game. And to be 100% honest, I don't see how gambling mechanisms could go any lower morally. Although the good news is :you guys seem to be really creative about that kind of stuff ! What can we expect now ? I'm afraid to ask... Where did you get this info from? To what extent do you consider this loot boxes inside lootboxes? Talking about the guaranteed ship container? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Tanaka_15 Beta Tester 2,514 posts 20,269 battles Report post #25 Posted August 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Dutchy_2019 said: Where did you get this info from? To what extent do you consider this loot boxes inside lootboxes? Talking about the guaranteed ship container? Do you know what ship you get out of box? Do you know if it will be for example Ochakow? no? then lootbox. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites