If Wargaming wants to repair relations with the community

[Kamisato_Ayato]

I have a suggestion to Wargaming if they want to repair relationships with the community, here are two important steps they need to do.

The first is to add Sackville's camo to Yukon for free and credit LittleWhiteMouse and Chobittsu in-game for example if you hover above the camo it's mentioned that LittleWhiteMouse and Chobittsu worked on the skin, and their logos are hidden like Easter eggs.

And add a mission where all players can earn Missouri for free without impossible grind like Puerto Rico and if somebody else has a different suggestion please leave a comment.

[Shirakami_Kon]

Just give up on loot boxes, is that simple.

[Finnka]

WG:s policy is attacking if you propose this kind of things.

[Kamisato_Ayato]

17 minutes ago, SHDRKN4792 said:

Just give up on loot boxes, is that simple.

I hope so too, but I doubt it because gaming companies besides from Wargaming will continue to sell loot-boxes unless you have legislation like Belgium

[Shirakami_Kon]

20 minutes ago, HentaiVeteran said:

I hope so too, but I doubt it because gaming companies besides from Wargaming will continue to sell loot-boxes unless you have legislation like Belgium

That's the problem, even with the forum idea of pushing for PEGI to rate the game as gambling, that's doesn't change each country perception within their legislation of what a lootbox is. For the rest of countries besides Belgium, who recognized how predatory on the consumer the lootbox system is, lootboxes aren't gambling, they are ingame purchases.

 

"Hey, you choose to put money on there or not, it's not like you're forced to, this is fine, it's a purchase". Just look at the stream today, there was a comment about someone telling them that they won't spend more money on the game and they were like "fair enough man" and they explained themselves how the loot boxes in the game where an option to the consumer, but "if the consumer decides or not to interact with such product is their choice" and they are fine with your decision. If you buy them great for them, if you don't well sucks to be you, the lootbox is going to be there because there's nothing stopping it.

 

What this situation should raise is not trying to add a PEGI tag to the game, what this should raise is awareness of how the lootbox system is. Why is it legal? How do goverments not see how they prey on FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) tactics for limited time premium stuff? How is abusing sunken cost tactics on the costumers where people take the bait of buying loot boxes, get nothing and keep spending because they increasingly spend so much into it that they can't stop until having something to show for it?

 

This should raise awareness in every country that a lootbox is not a "harmless in-game purchase" and it's a massively predatory system on the customer, way to easy and profitable and incredibly prone to scams and that there's some action to take against them like following Belgium's example illegalizing them for good.

[Kamisato_Ayato]

5 minutes ago, SHDRKN4792 said:

That's the problem, even with the forum idea of pushing for PEGI to rate the game as gambling, that's doesn't change each country perception within their legislation of what a lootbox is. For the rest of countries besides Belgium, who recognized how predatory on the consumer the lootbox system is, lootboxes aren't gambling, they are ingame purchases.

 

"Hey, you choose to put money on there or not, it's not like you're forced to, this is fine, it's a purchase". Just look at the stream today, there was a comment about someone telling them that they won't spend more money on the game and they were like "fair enough man" and they explained themselves how the loot boxes in the game where an option to the consumer, but "if the consumer decides or not to interact with such product is their choice" and they are fine with your decision. If you buy them great for them, if you don't well sucks to be you, the lootbox is going to be there because there's nothing stopping it.

 

What this situation should raise is not trying to add a PEGI tag to the game, what this should raise is awareness of how the lootbox system is. Why is it legal? How do goverments not see how they prey on FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) tactics for limited time premium stuff? How is abusing sunken cost tactics on the costumers where people take the bait of buying loot boxes, get nothing and keep spending because they increasingly spend so much into it that they can't stop until having something to show for it?

 

This should raise awareness in every country that a lootbox is not a "harmless in-game purchase" and it's a massively predatory system on the customer, way to easy and profitable and incredibly prone to scams and that there's some action to take against them like following Belgium's example illegalizing them for good.

I know it's painfully slow progress and the companies who are behind the scenes lobbying against ANY legislation to ban loot-boxes.
But in the case of World of Warships and other WG games, it's a small victory if we can get the in-game purchases label on their games.
Because some parents have become more aware of predatory microtransactions if they see the label in-game purchases, it will be a reason to keep a close eye on them or not allow them to play Wows.

[Pametrada]

Wargaming isn't interested in repairing relations with the community. It is only interested in maintaining relations with the accountants. And that will be Wargaming's eventual downfall.

[Verblonde]

1 hour ago, Pametrada said:

Wargaming isn't interested in repairing relations with the community.

This, I fear is the true state of things; rather than try and sell more stuff to old lags, the seem to be entirely focused on fleecing newcomers who don't know any better.

 

If WG had the slightest concern for the community's views, there are some *very* easy moves they could make in the short term:

• Just release MO for standard sale.
• Publish the odds on loot boxes.
• Publish a road-map of what they intend to do medium-long term to repair trust (hopefully including the eventual phasing out of lootboxes).

The first two are easy and painless and could be done without disrupting long-term plans etc. The third one would take longer to formulate, as all of WG's forecasts and budgets are almost certainly built around lootboxes, so finding viable replacements would take a while (although I can't imagine they don't already have a plan, to cover for the possibility of more countries banning them).

 

None of this will happen, of course, because the people with the power at WG appear to be unprincipled ...

[Spartan_Renegade]

3 hours ago, SHDRKN4792 said:

Just give up on loot boxes, is that simple.

 

Just can't help myself. 

[CptBarney]

another flamu vid bois:

 

[Migantium_Mashum]

4 hours ago, Pametrada said:

Wargaming isn't interested in repairing relations with the community. It is only interested in maintaining relations with the accountants. And that will be Wargaming's eventual downfall.

So they have taken so much away it's as if they actually want the game to die...

 

Look at the changes over the last 18 months and all to the detriment of the player... Prime example the massive change to the ranked rewards... 

 

Обратная связь важна, очень важно прислушиваться к своей базе игроков, поэтому вы игнорируете их на свой страх и риск.

[CptBarney]

Oh and a big youtuber upper echelon games covered it as well: 

 

[Adm_Andre]

Vor 6 Stunden, HentaiVeteran sagte:

And add a mission where all players can earn Missouri for free without impossible grind like Puerto Rico and if somebody else has a different suggestion please leave a comment.

yeah sure

 

And than everybody is wondering why WG doesn't take the community seriously

[ThePurpleSmurf]

6 minutes ago, Adm_Andre said:

And than everybody is wondering why WG doesn't take the community seriously

So community and WG would be on even ground? Or do you seriously think they take their community serious the second you close your wallet? Are you really that naive? Asking for a friend.

[StonerStanley]

Nothing. Money is everything in todays world. 

[hellhound666]

sure they want ... as long as it won't hinder their planned income from lootboxes ...

so, grab your (or mamas/papas) creditcards and hop hop to prem shop to fill the expected quota 

[Fat_Maniac]

7 hours ago, SHDRKN4792 said:

Just give up on loot boxes, is that simple.

They don't even have to do that, to be honest. Put up the prize chances and offer the same prizes directly for dubs. It's player choice then. Gamble with a known chance of getting the prize or just pay an up front cost.

 

I believe that's basically what War Thunder does and it works for them.

[Yedwy]

7 hours ago, SHDRKN4792 said:

Just give up on loot boxes, is that simple.

Or even tone down on them

[Molly_Delaney]

Release Kitakami.

[CptBarney]

kek:

 

[Camperdown]

They are not interested in repairing relations. It is blindingly obvious from their actions.

Their target audience is uninformed new players who don't see through their scam. We are just a nuisance that has to be managed just to avoid a backlash which could hurt their sales.

[mtm78]

8 hours ago, SHDRKN4792 said:

Just give up on loot boxes, is that simple.

And stop pushing submarines where they do not belong. 

 

2 hours ago, Adm_Andre said:

yeah sure

 

And than everybody is wondering why WG doesn't take the community seriously

Another 'new player posting in defense of overlord WG' ... how 'surprising' 

[mtm78]

-double

[MannequinSkywalker]

"If Wargaming wants to repair relations with the community"

 

- Are you not following what's happening here lately? Apparently, you don't. There is no IF, WG doesn't want to repair anything. /end clause

 

10 hours ago, HentaiVeteran said:

I have a suggestion to Wargaming if they want to repair relationships with the community, here are two important steps they need to do.

The first is to add Sackville's camo to Yukon for free

 

-Again, they already said No. And even if they'd add, a premium camo for free? WG? Come back to Earth.

 

10 hours ago, HentaiVeteran said:

And add a mission where all players can earn Missouri for free

 

Hahahahahaha! Wouldn't it be good? Free camos, free Missouris? Why not try to take advantage out of this whole mess, right?

 

 

[mtm78]

Lol, here we go. Let's defend WG, let's make it out like community is unreasonable and WG is such a standup company doing everything right.