WG joke: no anti-sub weapon in ranked!!!

[luokailk]

I was playing London, subs pushed to my face and there is nothing, NOTHING, I could do. WG you really want to test sub in this way?

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 3 Minuten, luokailk sagte:

I was playing London, subs pushed to my face and there is nothing, NOTHING, I could do. WG you really want to test sub in this way?

Why were you not playing a submarine yourself, comrade? That was all we wanted from you, because we need maaaaaaany cashcows playing them, regardless of how dull and dumb it feels - numbers translate into popularity and thereby success on our spreadsheets. We sh*t on your game experience, we only care for the money. 

[King_Of_The_Potatoes]

Can you not hear the Devs snorting with laughter into their vodka glasses from here.

[lovelacebeer]

Sounds fun for the submarine and that’s whom WG care about. 

[Smeggo]

Premium-ships don't have ASW yet, as they rather don't want to nerf these later if required. 

 

€: Don't shoot me, I was wrong. Some premiums have them indeed. 

[WWDragon]

Were I heard this before ... Oh I know.

 

I was playing <____>, CVs <______> and there is nothing, NOTHING, I could do.

I was playing <____>, DDs <______> and there is nothing, NOTHING, I could do.

 

What was that CV players were told after the rocket change? Oh yes, "Adapt" ...

[Nickthedevil]

No anti-sub weapon on P.E. Friedrich either. It's a joke.

[Spruss]

15 minuti fa, Nickthedevil ha scritto:

No anti-sub weapon on P.E. Friedrich either. It's a joke.

Same on Leone. And Makarov. And Graf Spee. And Kijkduin. What a bad bad bad implementation.

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

39 minutes ago, luokailk said:

I was playing London, subs pushed to my face and there is nothing, NOTHING, I could do. WG you really want to test sub in this way?

Nothing you can do, are you sure about that? Hit the premium shop after the release of submarines. The uneven distribution of ASW has only one purpose: Powercreep. Soon you will find new premiums in the shop with "Awsome ASW capabilities". This is WG 2021.

[Peffers]

3 minutes ago, Von_Pruss said:

Nothing you can do, are you sure about that? Hit the premium shop after the release of submarines. The uneven distribution of ASW has only one purpose: Powercreep. Soon you will find new premiums in the shop with "Awsome ASW capabilities". This is WG 2021.

only in  a loot box; I'm afraid

[hellhound666]

25 minutes ago, Spruss said:

Same on Leone. And Makarov. And Graf Spee. And Kijkduin. What a bad bad bad implementation.

and Mysore which doesn't even have HE shells ...

and here is a comment from staff member

[Spruss]

1 minuto fa, hellhound666 ha scritto:

and Mysore which doesn't even have HE shells ...

That was not planned so well. 

[King_Of_The_Potatoes]

@Gwynbleidd11 question for you do your tears come with extra salt?

[Peffers]

4 minutes ago, hellhound666 said:

and Mysore which doesn't even have HE shells ...

and here is a comment from staff member

At  least YabbaCoe is keeping a sense of humour, as posted elsewhere, WG does not want make pre caveat premium ships OP against subs, hence no ASW suite.

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 7 Minuten, hellhound666 sagte:

and Mysore which doesn't even have HE shells ...

and here is a comment from staff member

[hellhound666]

8 minutes ago, Peffers said:

At  least YabbaCoe is keeping a sense of humour, as posted elsewhere, WG does not want make pre caveat premium ships OP against subs, hence no ASW suite.

he could use his sense of humor on himself or his employer and not on me or my attitude will come even more mysorable 

[Procrastes]

1 hour ago, Smeggo said:

Premium-ships don't have ASW yet, as they rather don't want to nerf these later if required. 

As it happens, the Warspite does have the Airstrike weapon. So does the Alabama. So they at least have the theoretical capability to fight a submarine, if they can spot it. But since neither of them have the Hydroacoustic Search consumable, they will be relying on their team mates to spot any non-surfaced submarines they might encounter. Good luck with that and may they both have a fun and engaging game experience, is all I will say on that matter.

 

The distribution of ASW on older premiums seems to be a bit hap-hazard, to say the least. My take on this is the same as that of Captain @Von_Pruss in post #9 above, namely that if Wargaming won't give an older premium ASW capabilities, it is because they want to make that premium less fun and engaging to play. This way they figure that their customers will be increasingly tempted to invest in shiny new premiums that are equipped with ASW.

 

The whole question of which ships should be equpped with ASW and which should not is beside the point as I see it, since it is my very firm opinion that all surface ships should have access to ASW capabilites. Having it any other way is just bad game design, since it blocks players from interacting with - i.e. playing with - each other. Not that Wargaming is likely to let something as prosaic as proper game design get in the way of their marketing efforts.

[Ubertron_X]

While I fully agree to some of the complaint, why - for now - insist on playing ships in ranked that dont have any ASW capabilities?

 

For example Arizona and Warspite have ASW capabilities, as do Molotov, Duca D'Aosta and Huanghe.

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 hour ago, luokailk said:

I was playing London, subs pushed to my face and there is nothing, NOTHING, I could do. WG you really want to test sub in this way?

Nah man, they are just researching if all ships need ASW or it is better to leave some without it.

As stands, ships without ASW are played plenty and have no lesser WR. Thank you for participating in the research.... 

Also, spreadsheet says you're having fun. 

[WWDragon]

3 minutes ago, Procrastes said:

As it happens, the Warspite does have the Airstrike weapon.

Learn history ...

 

U-64 had a very short career and sank no enemy vessels. Having left her home port of Wilhelmshaven for her first war patrol on 6 April 1940, she was intercepted by Allied aircraft seven days later off the coast of Norway during the invasion of that country and was sunk by a bomb from a Fairey Swordfish aircraft of HMS Warspite (03).

 

NOBODY messes with Warspite.

[Prophecy82]

1 hour ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

Why were you not playing a submarine yourself, comrade?

LOL now you already get Lootbox-to-win. 

[BrusilovX]

1 hour ago, Smeggo said:

Premium-ships don't have ASW yet, as they rather don't want to nerf these later if required. 

That's not true - for the USA the Atlanta and Flint both have depth charges.    I'm trying to work out which cruisers do and which ones don't - ah, just spotted that in the dockyard there is a depth charges drop down.

 

The Indianapolis, Wichita, Anchorage, Montpelier and Salem don't.   The Alaska does not either - but I think that's because it's a heavy cruiser?

[Khaba_Gandalf]

Vor 57 Minuten, Spruss sagte:

Same on Leone. And Makarov. And Graf Spee. And Kijkduin. What a bad bad bad implementation.

Just get to silver League, both Eugen and Hipper-chan do have depth charges. 

[Smeggo]

Vor 17 Minuten, Procrastes sagte:

The distribution of ASW on older premiums seems to be a bit hap-hazard, to say the least. [...]

I see - I take everything back and claim the opposite. 

 

Checking which of my premiums T6 have ASW, I see half of them have some. Cannot find a logic behind the distribution.

[invicta2012]

26 minutes ago, Procrastes said:

The whole question of which ships should be equpped with ASW and which should not is beside the point as I see it, since it is my very firm opinion that all surface ships should have access to ASW capabilites.

The problem they have is the same one that CVs have. If everyone has an effective counter to them, the new line isn't going to be much fun to play. So WG are trying to make CA and BB ASW weaponry patchy and inconsistent - someone has to be food for the new class.