PSA: Recent community incidents and our actions

[WideBeam]

Utterly pathetic reply, but then this doesnt effect me one bit. Truely sorry for the CC's been crapped on.

Ive played this game for over 3 years and NEVER i repeat NEVER paid one red cent to wargaming and this just reinforces the fact that theyll never get a penny from me.

I will exploit their free to play model as long as it lasts.

Did i mention I will never pay WG one red cent?, Oh i did....just checking my resolve.

[_B_A_N_E_]

As a long time WG player, silent forum troll and fecking huge in-game whale... even I am disgusted with this... and believe me it takes some real shizzle to make me feel the need to post here.

 

My wallet warrior antics over the years have probably paid for several of WG's Christmas parties...

 

Mess after mess... and they never change, no learning, no evolution, no real apologies. Awful communication skills, unprofessional behaviour and most of all... no god damn KAIZEN people!

 

Even I am coming to a fork in the road where I am considering turning off the endless flow of cash - the way I see it my paper money is just being thrown carelessly on a fire and not invested.

And that is saying something, I literally buy everything & anything from WG, even if it is utter tosh.

 

I will remember this latest debacle in an endless saga of shameless display as "Miss-COMM-ouri".

 

Over and out, back to my cave with cash lined walls.

[Ayayanami]

Honestly I cannot see why it was too hard to just release a second Missouri. But I can at least look past this one. I still think this should be done though. Cause this seems to be the only way to properly fix the credit issue after all.

 

What I find particularly disappointing is the fact that after the treatment towards specific CCs, there isn't even a proper apology for them. How is it too hard to admit you treated people like a dog? I don't get it.
 

Shame I guess.

[tsounts]

12 minutes ago, Hugh_Ruka said:

They appreciate the feedback is printed on soft paper ....

In the meantime if ordinary players give feedback, rather than CCs, then they get ignored to the utmost.

[Cirno9999]

with this reaction from wg the shitstorm will become a fecal hurricane

[Don_Altobello_]

"FU"

[Orochico]

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[DragutPasha1538]

I came here for the add comment on that. My first post on the forum. 

 

This so-called 'apology' is just bs. There is no apology on anything. Corrupted politicians even do better statements from this.

 

No more spending any money, not even a cent. And believe it or not this one is way bigger than it looks.

[ActionX07]

Wow....This has to be the new BS standard from now on....:D

I'm sure you put almost that much energy in this "apology" that LittleWhiteMouse did in her ship reviews...what a piece of s*it lot are you (ofc respect for the few exceptions)

[gabberworld]

7 minutes ago, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said:

do u get paid for being a wg apologist? are u like a modern judah that sells his soul for every post in favor of wg? 

[edited]

 

some just see, that some people made they mind derision before the actual announcement

[KruppStahl14]

Its not only the CC drama, the Lootboxes and the questionable implementation of Submarines.

What completetly gets lost is the constant reduction of our rewards for playing the game.

You have destroyed the gain of elite Captain XP completely with the commander rework.
We no longer get flags for achievements. And i noticed the result of this, as im running out of alot of flags i had plenty of before.
We get way less camos for events than in the past.
And ranked rewards also got cut down.

It also seems like you have no intentions anymore on releasing new campaigns and collections.

The only focus that matters for you since a while now seem to be the lootboxes.

I play this game since 2015. Up until about two years ago i was satisfied with the quality you as a company offered and i always did buy premium time. And that was enough to enjoy this game. Now its not possible even with prem time anymore because of the reasons mentioned above.

You butcher this game into the ground out of pure greed. Maybe some people will fall for your lootbox practices which by the way are illegal in a game that 7 year olds can play, id be careful with that. But you will loose long time supporters of this game like me. I will no longer buy anything. Enough is enough !
And yes, everyone is replacable. Im just one customer who stops paying, i know you dont care. But you did go too far and there are too many people out there who think like me. Do you think we recommend this game to potential new players ? Never ever at this lousy state you achieved !

You ruined your reputation. And the only thing that can solve this is that the main responsible persons for this whole giant disaster of the last two years have to either change completetly or get fired. Remember, everyone is replacable and some guys really need to get replaced to save this game !
 

[1MajorKoenig]

5 minutes ago, mtm78 said:

Ow boy I had to come back for this...

 

Hey WarGaming, you having fun yet? I know I am. 

Picked a good moment to visit us 

[MaxxyNL]

Ahhh, i guess this i just part 1 of the PSA.

 

Not? 

[DyingFromCringe]

23 minutes ago, Ajax102 said:

I don t know if I should laugh, or cry on this post....

What do you mean? I completely agree with his original post, this apology from WG was very well written and had lots of clear arguments for it, for example they will now listen to the community.

They shouldn't bring another option to buy Missouri, random bundles are a perfect way of experiencing the randomness you had to face when being assigned to a ship in real life in the 1940s, for example you could have been assigned to the USS Alabama and not the Missouri. Or you could have been born as a japanese men instead of american.

Also all the CCs leaving has real-life world war 2 representations aswell.

If you didn't listen to what ever crap the commander said to you, you were kicked out or sent out as the front line.

 

Didn't y'all wanna make the game more realistic?

 

[Flashp0int]

So this is a community incident? Like a small thing that Wargaming is not really responsible for? You are "sorry" like if someone else has had a misadventure??

You are pilling up a HUGE mess since years (CVs, reworks, gambling, disrespect and so on). 

Now instead of acknowledging and fixing, you place things on hold? The whole problem is that you are not accountable.

[JustJokingAround]

One way to take a huge crap onto ur whole community, gj WG

[Cirno9999]

hmm is this us or is it wg

 

[XeroFuchsGiven]

I think my user name says exactly how WG feel. 

[WorthyOpponent]

Is... Is this the message you guys needed one more day to prepare? 

 

I can't hold myself anymore, this is incredibly hilarious and sad.

2 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

we will always be here to talk IGNORE.

 

2 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

While some of these causes are self-explanatory

You don't say...

2 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

our commitment to fix them remains

let me finish that sentence, remains to be absent. Okay, we can move on now.

 

2 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

We've been discussing this since last week and decided to add an alternative way to purchase the ship. 

When something so simple and logical that everyone can agree takes A WHOLE WEEK TO FIGURE OUT, I REALLY wonder how you guys manage to spam a tech tree every 2 months with tons of premium ships. Seriously...

Also, what is the cost? Over 100$ for a ship that was originally free or are you finally going to request our soul this time?

2 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

We're carefully analyzing her adjusted earnings following the update, and will share our decision whether any adjustments to the mission are to be made.

 Like how long it took to at least soften up the desync problem? Like how it took more than 2 patches to realize Deadeye is NOT a good addition to the game? Like how long it took to realize Flint needs buffs, that you guys were too shy to give? Why is it that when we hear you guys say "We're analyzing/We're testing/We're figuring..." That means no mention of it for at least the next 2 months? I can give more examples that took way longer to fix. Some didn't even get fixed yet. Here's some: CVs, Khaba 50mm plating, torpedo drifting, slingshot...

 

2 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

arrive around late Summer 2022

So it isn't enough that she waited for 16 months, she needs to wait 12 more months only to end up (Very likely) to be ignored/disappointed again 

No mention of anything else like @Miscommunication, mistranslation, shitty lootboxes, unfair random bundles, scams, balance issues, submarines... 

 

WG continues to be WG, nothing really changes. 

[ColorsOfRainbows]

9 minutes ago, NaikonP said:

So this is what two days of work at WG look like. No wonder nothing ever gets fixed lmao.

 

 

2 days of several people in na, europe and russia it seems ^_^ explains a lot doesnt it ? makes me regret my job choice

[BL4CK_SK]

One gets up, drinks coffee, and finds out that WG throws him out of the server before he can read the answer. Also, it's posted on the forum or shared by others. Anyway:

 

1 - AprilWhiteMouse is her nickname on the discord - officially in the game and in the forum It is LittleWhiteMouse - at least you can see how WG "watches" what she writes - and it took more time for this (24h +)

 

2 - The fact that Missouri will be sold differently, but announcing it later does not mean that its price will not be over € 100, but whatever you think of it to compensate for the "possible loss"

 

3 - You didn't comment on the problem with gambling in the game - you literally ignored it and just added another way to get money from people, but you didn't change the essence of the problem

 

4 - You've been getting a feedback from those active CCs so far, you didn't pay attention to it and you kept writing to us that "we see it differently because your tables show something else" - so you announced that it wouldn't change

 

5 - The CC program ceased to be important when the top CC drove people into the game and you no longer needed them, the conditions for entering the program went down - change - from making instructive videos and being a benefit to the community changed to - having a certain number of followers or people online in the case of LIVE stream - which is set differently for each country - 30+ followers apply to CZ - you have literally dishonored everyone who was CC at the time and recruited everyone, one that he can't play, doesn't control the mechanics of the game, does not make any instructive or explanatory videos, no reviews of new ships, especially that it turns on the stream and meeting there a few friends so meets the conditions, but the fact that it has a benefit for the community 0 (0.0000 fck) it does not matter ...

 

6 - Still to LWM - she wanted you to add the CAMO that Chobi did - right now and not a year later something that no one wanted and depending on how you behaved and behaved so far, it's hard to believe that you will do it.

 

7 - no self-reflection on what happened, but it is understandable, it suits you that the active CC left and remained there passive non-doing CC, which do not even read the CC discord and they only need to have 10k doubloons and they do not care that someone humiliates them right in the side thread. And the fact that one of them said that we stayed so that our voice could be heard from the inside - it just shows how much they try to justify their incompetence when they didn't understand that we left. will be zero again

 

8 - rating PEGI 7 but in the game of gambling practices for 18+, where there is not even a % chance of winning a reward - you did not even mention this - THIS WAS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS FOR LEAVING

 

9 - Um and the fact that the last "big" CC manifests itself as a racist, anitisemite in PUBLIC and he did it for a long time, you somehow bypassed it too .. because we will not throw away the last channel with 100k + followers ... - OMFG

 

10 - I could go on for a long time ... but

 

Basically, your much-anticipated report has brought nothing new, just a bunch of empty promises, as always, and you have completely skipped all the major problems. I still expected that you would offer a reward in the form of a WG container to players who are "A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED" - 

 

My position does not change - I left the CC program for long-term shortcomings and changes which, as you have just shown, you are not even trying to change. That is why I remain EX-CC.

 

Bl4ckSK (SK = SLOVAKIA - so exuse my english, I tryied..)

[Hot_Loads]

1 hour ago, YabbaCoe said:

Hello everyone, 

 

We are awfully sorry that AprilWhiteMouse and other CCs are no longer a part of our Community Contributors Program, and we’d like them to know they will be missed. We respect their decision and want to thank them for their contributions, devotion, and passion for the game and program over several years. We wish all of them best of luck and hope that they will stay in touch with us nevertheless, we will always be here to talk. 

 

We understand that there are several causes that have led us to this situation and that we have upset and disappointed many of our CCs and players. While some of these causes are self-explanatory, and our commitment to fix them remains, there are a few specific points we’d like to comment on: 

 

• We appreciate the community feedback about Missouri being obtainable via Random Bundles exclusively in 0.10.7. We've been discussing this since last week and decided to add an alternative way to purchase the ship. We will provide details on our Devblog soon.
• On the topic of Missouri, we know that there is an open question whether her earnings are on par with the pre-update version, especially considering signal flags and camouflage bonuses. We're carefully analyzing her adjusted earnings following the update, and will share our decision whether any adjustments to the mission are to be made.
• Regardless of AprilWhiteMouse's CC membership status, we will stay true to our commitment to release HMCS Huron in 2022. She’s been added to our production plans and is scheduled to arrive around late Summer 2022.  

 

Best regards, 

WoWS Team

You copy paste an "apology" that manages to get LittleWhiteMouse's name incorrect, that doesn't even attempt to apologise, "we're sorry you did this" is in essence all you're saying, like we had low expectations of you guys at WG, but you've managed to go even lower, this nonstatement just adds more fuel to the fire, but hey, you don't really care, do you? that much is obvious. I'd say I'm disgusted but that would mean that I didn't see this coming

[ActionX07]

4 minutes ago, Wainfowest said:

What do you mean? I completely agree with his original post, this apology from WG was very well written and had lots of clear arguments for it, for example they will now listen to the community.

They shouldnt bring another option to buy MIssiouri, random bundles are a perfect way of expierencing the randomness you had to face when being assigned to a ship in real life in the 1940s, for example you could have been assigned to the USS Alabama and not the Missouri. Or you could have been born as a japanese men instead of american.

Also all the CCs leaving has real-life world war 2 representations aswell.

If you didnt listen to what ever crap the commander said to you, you were kicked out or sent out as the front line.

 

Didnt yall wanna make the game more realistic?

 

Are you on drugs?

[WorthyOpponent]

Just now, ColorsOfRainbows said:

2 days of several people in na, europe and russia it seems ^_^ explains a lot doesnt it ? makes me regret my job choice

Man I wish I worked at WG management. You do nothing the whole day, ignore every possible way to communicate with the playerbase, don't even play the game and you still get money for that. 

[Dave333]

Very poor WG. Please try harder.

 

Edit - please try!