PSA: Recent community incidents and our actions

[Horny_Delta]

That's a complete joke even for your standards.

[Hot_Loads]

@YabbaCoe no mention whatsoever of Yuro? this response took over 24 hours to formulate? seriously? jesus, our expectations for you lot were low, but this is just a fancy way to tell us to go f*ck ourselves

[Hot_Loads]

@YabbaCoe no mention whatsoever of Yuro? this response took over 24 hours to formulate? seriously? jesus, our expectations for you lot were low, but this is just a fancy way to tell us to go f*ck ourselves

[Hugh_Ruka]

Just now, GrimSea said:

Reading this and considering the above statement above is making it even more tragic.....

What's more tragic, Shonai posted the same statement on NA as well ...

[CastorTolagi]

Just now, gabberworld said:

devs work separately from wg staff. no need start pik about that and be happy that they increase this as they see it was too small like LWM tell

1. Its still not enough but WG wants to F.... Missouri owner and thinking we are not able to do basic level of math.

 

2. It still stands that changes are announced AFTER changes were made. Why? Why would you say: ohhh we will post potential changes later when the changes are already live?

And why would you not just come straight and say here and now what was changed. Why would you post in on the DevBlog of all places when again the changes are already LIVE!

[LordMeru]

So glad i left the game months ago

[domo42]

I didn't expect much, and I'm still disappointed.

[Carmignac]

WTF? that’s it? 2 days and no apology?

You are not only clowns, you are an entire circus 

 

[gabberworld]

like i tell yesterday. it dosent matter what WG says, you find way to attack them.

[Drwal_1984]

Now pleas tell me, dear Staff do You think that "this" statement makes it all better now?

I mean, really?

[Hugh_Ruka]

1 minute ago, gabberworld said:

like i tell yesterday. it dosent matter what WG says, you find way to attack them.

they effectively said nothing ... just dressed it into words ... empty statement ...

[IJN_Yamete_Kudasai]

Absolutely ridiculous.

 

You're facing PR disaster with the very same attitude that led to said disaster.

 

Not even single "sorry" for your behaviour. Not a single mention of concernes and problems raised by CCs.

 

Just "we're sorry that you feel this way"

 

 

#WalletClosed

[DasTongle]

48 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

Hello everyone, 

 

We are awfully sorry that AprilWhiteMouse and other CCs are no longer a part of our Community Contributors Program, and we’d like them to know they will be missed. We respect their decision and want to thank them for their contributions, devotion, and passion for the game and program over several years. We wish all of them best of luck and hope that they will stay in touch with us nevertheless, we will always be here to talk. 

 

We understand that there are several causes that have led us to this situation and that we have upset and disappointed many of our CCs and players. While some of these causes are self-explanatory, and our commitment to fix them remains, there are a few specific points we’d like to comment on: 

 

• We appreciate the community feedback about Missouri being obtainable via Random Bundles exclusively in 0.10.7. We've been discussing this since last week and decided to add an alternative way to purchase the ship. We will provide details on our Devblog soon.
• On the topic of Missouri, we know that there is an open question whether her earnings are on par with the pre-update version, especially considering signal flags and camouflage bonuses. We're carefully analyzing her adjusted earnings following the update, and will share our decision whether any adjustments to the mission are to be made.
• Regardless of AprilWhiteMouse's CC membership status, we will stay true to our commitment to release HMCS Huron in 2022. She’s been added to our production plans and is scheduled to arrive around late Summer 2022.  

 

Best regards, 

WoWS Team

Hello Dear World of Warships Team,

 

i am sitting here reading this carefully worded Post and think to myself that one could really appreaciate the lenghts you went through to not ignite more emotion by staying positive on Issue you identified you can adress. I really do. At this Point i am sorry YabbaCoe that you have to deliver the Statement to this charged enviorment. That out of the way some Feedback: 
You should refrain from hinting in Discord Messages that you have to prepare the Statement more when it is than a short repetion of professional Phrases.

This charges Emotions you do not wish to provoke and not really smoothes things over. In my Opinion it does only adress a fraction of the issues brought to the forefront and expectation was that there would be said more about things thrown in the Room. But that is only my opionion.

 

The Cycle of beeing unable to read or unwilling to read your Customers is obviously continuing. As again after an Uproar of louder Minorities in the Forums and Social Channels the Pricing Policy and method of purchase get changed. It starts to really look bad in my Opinion.

 

Also you assume correctly that many people are upset with what is happening with the Game they have not only invested money in but also Emotion and Time. But i am fairly sure that not many people are interessted in a Roadmap for a Vessel of a former CC. But more in the Reasons and what will be done to represent or have a more healthy way of communication between player base and company. This went sorely unadressed in this Statement and i am having a feeling that i am not the only player who notices this.

Worse assuming that something is selfexplainatory. Nothing is, please make a point in your statement or it is superfluous to take 2 Workdays to formulate this Statement that leaves one with a lot more Questions than i gives answers.

 

Regarding the Econmy Changes to Missouri :

I am sorry but as a Fellow Professional Developer of Software i disagree strongly with the reasons the company provided for the Changes.

It is baffling to me that this got not calculated to a point from the only party that should have all values , narrowed down to a minute and second when the vessel gets destroyed. I am fully capable to program something like that for calculations with up to 55 Factors influencing the gain of ressource X.

Now i i don't think i am prodigy or unicum for beeing able to do that. Thats C++ Advaced Class... So someone in a Development Company should be able to do that. Not the least one of the fair Gentleman that scheme out Monetezation. Adjusting it on the fly and we see how it levels out makes you look , excuse the term incompetent to think of possibility named above and also leaves a poor impression. Leading me to belive that there where other motives in play for the change. Also the communication about the changes was handled extremly poor.

But that is just my 2 Cents, please forward them to the appropriate bin Person who is interessted in feedback.

 

[gabberworld]

1 minute ago, Hugh_Ruka said:

they effectively said nothing ... just dressed it into words ... empty statement ...

what you want really hear more? i mean really? What they can todo about this situation When some CC and LWM leave.

[TheIdiotAboard]

Well its high time, after years, enough is enough.

Will list my gaming account online, and recoup a beer or 2 for tonight, but onwards to other games now

 

After 10,000 Battles the time has come to move along.

Will vote with my wallet rather than let rip here, a lack of money comming in is a bigger problem than a lack of cc

[Takru]

We understand that there are several causes that have led us to this situation and that we have upset and disappointed many of our CCs and players. While some of these causes are self-explanatory, and our commitment to fix them remains

 

Point being that this commitment has been assured in writing, repeatedly, over the years and yet here we are, with yet another dumpsterfire of a situation that was entirely avoidable if Wargaming had at any point in the past few years taken their own words to heart. 

TL;DR of fairly much all reactions to this ... statement: 

[Sandoor94]

How did this very obligatory and message without substance, apology or concrete measures take you several days to populate?

[BOB_4]

Shameful

[Tanaka_15]

2 minutes ago, gabberworld said:

what you want really hear more? i mean really? What they can todo about this situation When some CC and LWM leave.

Say they are sorry?

that te commucation levels of entire comapny are low. IDK say anything. Simle we are sorry would be much better thant this "well lol, we dont care " statment. 

[Holy_Penetrator_]

[MICHAEL_ANIMAL]

My first EVER comment !

 

Another day - another shitstorm -  or no - sorry    "miscommunication"

 

and THIS took several days to write this little "totally BS" answer ?

 

 

do not write English this well - so have alloved myselv to copy some text from JINGLES :

 

No actual apology or admission any kind of fault,

a vague promise to make USS Missouri available at a fixed price and a promise to honour

the few promises made to LWM that they haven't already broken.

No addressing of the overly aggressive monetisation, no addressing of the normalisation

of gambling in a game marketed to children.

Nothing substantial at all, just a softly worded and vaguely conciliatory avoidance of the actual

issues in an effort to make the whole thing go away

 

 

[_Caesar_Imperator_]

Vor 42 Minuten, got_carried_by_Dark_haha sagte:

Understandable and it is an appropriate statement. Thanks WG for clearing things out.

 

Moving on is always better and most productive o7. Some critics don't know how departmental investigation work and it takes time to make a judgment or analysis. 

 

 

I actually wanted to write something about arrogance, and so on, but if something like that comes from a reroll of almost 700 battles, then that has to be true.

 

Carry on, you are my super hero

[xxHELIOS]

This « statement » is just good to be printed and used as toilet paper. 

 

Shame on you Wargaming.

[gabberworld]

11 minutes ago, Tanaka_15 said:

Say they are sorry?

that te commucation levels of entire comapny are low. IDK say anything. Simle we are sorry would be much better thant this "well lol, we dont care " statment. 

but they say that they are sorry about that, what you want hear more?

 

they not have more power for fix this because it was literally CC, LWM choice for leave.

 

lwm not even give them time for fix they mistakes she just explode and leave

[FlickOfTheSwitch]

I know this isn’t an airport, but regardless I’d like to announce my departure.

 

I had high hopes back in 2015, this has been a game I have genuinenly enjoyed throughout the years.

 

An apology for basically everything that has happened for the previous 2-3 years would be on place: Puerto Rico, CV rework (including AA rework), Commander rework, Yuokon, Missouri re-release and the lack of internal communication.

 

Seeing a game which I really liked being absolutely destroyed with PR scandals, changes we didn’t need and developer’s greed for money is heartbraking. 

 

o7 for those still onboard and o7 for those who have abandoned ship. This was the final straw for me.