Wargaming will rejoice at the CC exodus...Here is why

[WascallyWabbit]

Wargaming will be overjoyed at mass exodus of vocal and critical CC's and may even have orchestrated the whole thing. Here is why.

 

THE NEW AFFILIATE PROGRAMME ..... it has already accepted dozens of creators who will schill shamelessly for wargaming in an effort to make the "promised average" of 3000 dollars a month. When you do earn 3000 dollars a month it's hard not to toe the corporate line to keep that money rolling in. They also excluded CC's from the affiliate programme effectively preventing them from earning cash as most referrals come from CC links, another move designed to disillusion the CC's. New affiliates will bend over backwards to keep wargaming happy and that suits wargaming perfectly. The OG CC's were vocal critics of wargaming and their predatory monetisation tactics, also critics of badly designed mechanics and ships pumped into the game seemingly every week. Having given this some thought i believe the whole thing may have been orchestrated by WG, coming down hard on Little White Mouse and knowing the support she would receive from the CC's they probably hoped for 4 or 5 of the biggest and most vocal cc's to quit like Flamass and ichase. The overwhelming exodus will exceed WG's wildest expectations and will probably now or in the near future lead to the killing off of the current CC programme in favour of the affiliate programme. I believe the introduction of the affiliate programme and the position they forced littlewhitemouse into knowing she would resign on moral grounds and be supported by other CC's leaving is all the excuse Wargaming need to kill the all too "critical" CC programme in one fell swoop and shift the blame for the demise onto the CC's themselves.

 

In a week the exodus will be old news, the affiliates will be hard at work schilling and WG will claim it wasn't what they wanted but the disrespectfully CC's caused the cancelation of the CC programme.

 

Gotta hand it to Wargaming if i am right. This is pure genius on their part.

 

Apologies: the genius quote wasn't meant to appear as praise, it was meant to appear as ironic or condescending. A quick peek at my other posts will quickly show i'm no supporter of WG. I do however think WG will use this to kill the existing CC programme because it's one thing random streamers pooping on the company but it's another thing having CC's affiliated to wargaming doing it it looks even worse. Knowing WG's dubious past i would not be suprised if the whole incident wasn't manufactured to get this precise result. A mass exodus of CC's so they can kill the programme in a short period of time while shifting the blame to the CC's.

 

WG either orchestrated the whole crisis to kill the CC programme or they will take advantage of the situation to kill the CC programme.

[Corocotta15]

Brilliant, indeed! What about normal users? Because, may be, I wont spend more money in this game.

[ColonelPete]

As if the EX-CC suddenly shut up...

As if the Contributors did not CONTRIBUTE to the game and community...

[ThePurpleSmurf]

Are you by any chance related to Alex Jones?

[JohnMac79]

42 minutes ago, WascallyWabbit said:

We Gotta hand it to Wargaming if i am right. This is pure genius on their part.

But WG are clearly not geniuses which kinda ruin your whole argument.

[_DemonGuard_]

59 minutes ago, WascallyWabbit said:

Wargaming will be overjoyed at mass exodus of vocal and critical CC's and may even have orchestrated the whole thing. Here is why.

 

THE NEW AFFILIATE PROGRAMME ..... it has already accepted dozens of creators who will schill shamelessly for wargaming in an effort to make the "promised average" of 3000 dollars a month. When you do earn 3000 dollars a month it's hard not to toe the corporate line to keep that money rolling in. They also excluded CC's from the affiliate programme effectively preventing them from earning cash as most referrals come from CC links, another move designed to disillusion the CC's. New affiliates will bend over backwards to keep wargaming happy and that suits wargaming perfectly. The OG CC's were vocal critics of wargaming and their predatory monetisation tactics, also critics of badly designed mechanics and ships pumped into the game seemingly every week. Having given this some thought i believe the whole thing may been orchestrated by WG, coming down hard on Little White Mouse and knowing the support she would receive from the CC's they probably hoped for 4 or 5 of the biggest and most vocal cc's to quit like Flamass and ichase. The overwhelming exodus will exceed WG's wildest expectations and will probably now or in the near future lead to the killing off of the current CC programme in favour of the affiliate programme. I believe the introduction of the affiliate programme and the position they forced littlewhitemouse into knowing she would resign on moral grounds and be supported by other CC's leaving is all the excuse Wargaming need to kill the all too "critical" CC programme in one fell swoop and shift the blame for the demise onto the CC's themselves.

 

In a week the exodus will be old news, the affiliates will be hard at work schilling and WG will claim it wasn't what they wanted but the disrespectfully CC's caused the cancelation of the CC programme.

 

Gotta hand it to Wargaming if i am right. This is pure genius on their part.

Have you looked at the past years of this company? And if so, do you really still expect some "genius" moves from their part? Also, your statement about CCs being excluded from the affiliate program is wrong.

[bai7200]

1 hour ago, WascallyWabbit said:

Wargaming will be overjoyed at mass exodus of vocal and critical CC's and may even have orchestrated the whole thing. Here is why.

 

THE NEW AFFILIATE PROGRAMME ..... it has already accepted dozens of creators who will schill shamelessly for wargaming in an effort to make the "promised average" of 3000 dollars a month. When you do earn 3000 dollars a month it's hard not to toe the corporate line to keep that money rolling in. They also excluded CC's from the affiliate programme effectively preventing them from earning cash as most referrals come from CC links, another move designed to disillusion the CC's. New affiliates will bend over backwards to keep wargaming happy and that suits wargaming perfectly. The OG CC's were vocal critics of wargaming and their predatory monetisation tactics, also critics of badly designed mechanics and ships pumped into the game seemingly every week. Having given this some thought i believe the whole thing may been orchestrated by WG, coming down hard on Little White Mouse and knowing the support she would receive from the CC's they probably hoped for 4 or 5 of the biggest and most vocal cc's to quit like Flamass and ichase. The overwhelming exodus will exceed WG's wildest expectations and will probably now or in the near future lead to the killing off of the current CC programme in favour of the affiliate programme. I believe the introduction of the affiliate programme and the position they forced littlewhitemouse into knowing she would resign on moral grounds and be supported by other CC's leaving is all the excuse Wargaming need to kill the all too "critical" CC programme in one fell swoop and shift the blame for the demise onto the CC's themselves.

 

In a week the exodus will be old news, the affiliates will be hard at work schilling and WG will claim it wasn't what they wanted but the disrespectfully CC's caused the cancelation of the CC programme.

 

Gotta hand it to Wargaming if i am right. This is pure genius on their part.

First i would not Call WG for anything close to Genius, and they did not plan this In any way. 
But that said i dont think they will be that sad about it, the CC program was only good as long as they where supportive, but lately i think its been a pain for WG.

And as long as people spending money on the game WG is happy, and there are players that dont Care about this.

[totally_potato]

1 hour ago, WascallyWabbit said:

Gotta hand it to Wargaming if i am right. This is pure genius on their part.

WG was never really the most smartest of companies.

So idk whether the whole CC leaving this is intentional. But maybe they will take advantage of this with the affiliate program. 

But srsly. CCs was such a good program back in the day. Now its a shitshow

[_DemonGuard_]

5 minutes ago, totally_potato said:

So idk whether the whole CC leaving this is intentional. But maybe they will take advantage of this with the affiliate program.

Not sure if they are smart enough to take advantage of it with the affiliate program. They accepted iEarlGrey while being sued by him. Only after he tweeted it, they banned him. Genius...lol.

[totally_potato]

1 minute ago, _DemonGuard_ said:

Not sure if they are smart enough to take advantage of it with the affiliate program. They accepted iEarlGrey while being sued by him. Only after he tweeted it, they banned him. Genius...lol.

they might look at this thread y'know

[_DemonGuard_]

6 minutes ago, totally_potato said:

they might look at this thread y'know

I'm pretty sure, if you want to hide something from them, this forum is the best place to do it.

[totally_potato]

1 minute ago, _DemonGuard_ said:

I'm pretty sure, if you want to hide something from them, this forum is the best place to do it.

for sure

[Maris_Piper]

Whilst looking for somewhere else to waste my money I found that the Gamer Raptor had just done a sponsored  video on WoW's Legends It got a very bad response including accusations that the company was toxic and untrustworthy (I was so Shocked) it seems the fame is spreading.

I will say one thing WG Only Care About Profit, if this is reduced by this Self Inflicted Sh!* Storm Heads Will Roll, Just Not Those of the instigators of the problem in the Dark Corners of St PeeBurg. 

[Hugh_Ruka]

2 hours ago, WascallyWabbit said:

Wargaming will be overjoyed at mass exodus of vocal and critical CC's and may even have orchestrated the whole thing. Here is why.

 

THE NEW AFFILIATE PROGRAMME ..... it has already accepted dozens of creators who will schill shamelessly for wargaming in an effort to make the "promised average" of 3000 dollars a month. When you do earn 3000 dollars a month it's hard not to toe the corporate line to keep that money rolling in. They also excluded CC's from the affiliate programme effectively preventing them from earning cash as most referrals come from CC links, another move designed to disillusion the CC's. New affiliates will bend over backwards to keep wargaming happy and that suits wargaming perfectly. The OG CC's were vocal critics of wargaming and their predatory monetisation tactics, also critics of badly designed mechanics and ships pumped into the game seemingly every week. Having given this some thought i believe the whole thing may been orchestrated by WG, coming down hard on Little White Mouse and knowing the support she would receive from the CC's they probably hoped for 4 or 5 of the biggest and most vocal cc's to quit like Flamass and ichase. The overwhelming exodus will exceed WG's wildest expectations and will probably now or in the near future lead to the killing off of the current CC programme in favour of the affiliate programme. I believe the introduction of the affiliate programme and the position they forced littlewhitemouse into knowing she would resign on moral grounds and be supported by other CC's leaving is all the excuse Wargaming need to kill the all too "critical" CC programme in one fell swoop and shift the blame for the demise onto the CC's themselves.

 

In a week the exodus will be old news, the affiliates will be hard at work schilling and WG will claim it wasn't what they wanted but the disrespectfully CC's caused the cancelation of the CC programme.

 

Gotta hand it to Wargaming if i am right. This is pure genius on their part.

I don't think you get it ... the old CCs still retain a huge portion of the playerbase ... it's not like the will STOP creating content ... Just look at Flamu ... he's still the largest English speaking streamer on Twitch for Warships ...

 

The new program is based on new players and them buying ships ... and if anybody with a brain looks around the internet they will find lots of traces of this disaster and think twice about spending money on a game with uncertain return on that spend. So the new program will die quickly as new players are not really welcome to the game.

 

Low tiers are a crap show and when you buy a high tire premium you get an even rougher start ... no, there's no genius to be seen here ...

[illy]

they'll just release more ships for the punters to spaff their hard earned money up the wall, already so many new ships i have no idea what the hell i am fighting anymore, same as WOT....they just dumped endless content without fixing the problems, i'll keep playing until the inevitable release of subs on to the random servers... then i  think it's maybe time to move on, enjoy it while it lasts 

[ZaalKoris_vas_QwibQwib]

The New CC Program will be like this

 

 

Everybody marches, everybody claps, everybody is smiling.

 

CC Program was dead the moment WG stopped Work-in-Progress previews and finalized reviews before ships went live.

 

 

[Ocsimano18]

1 hour ago, Hugh_Ruka said:

I don't think you get it ... the old CCs still retain a huge portion of the playerbase ... it's not like the will STOP creating content ... Just look at Flamu ... he's still the largest English speaking streamer on Twitch for Warships ...

 

The new program is based on new players and them buying ships ... and if anybody with a brain looks around the internet they will find lots of traces of this disaster and think twice about spending money on a game with uncertain return on that spend. So the new program will die quickly as new players are not really welcome to the game.

 

Low tiers are a crap show and when you buy a high tire premium you get an even rougher start ... no, there's no genius to be seen here ...

I've seen lot of new players having 250 battles and a couple of T8 premiums. Those are the fresh guys WG is looking for. The logic here is not to retain players, but always have enough influx of new ones who quickly grab a couple of premiums for money before they quit. The pool of potential new players in unlimited (WG have about 1 million people active in the last few months globally, and there are at least 100 millions worldwide who can potentially be recruited). The veteran players are needed to make high tier gameplay desirable for newbies. We're the elite club for which they would like to buy a membership card, without doing the grind for many years. It doesn't matter if they realize later that buying a high tier premium only makes you a cannon fodder, as they've already spent their money.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

Calling WG geniuses is showing lack of understanding what an actual genius makes.

[Camperdown]

The cc program had indeed run its course for WG, as is also explained in the Jingles video. But an affiliate program is no stroke of genius. It's just part and parcel of online marketing. Not the part with the most integrity, but that's just WarGambling as we know and love them 

[totally_potato]

1 hour ago, Hugh_Ruka said:

I don't think you get it ... the old CCs still retain a huge portion of the playerbase ... it's not like the will STOP creating content ... Just look at Flamu ... he's still the largest English speaking streamer on Twitch for Warships ...

huge portion of the community aka the playerbase that mattered. They are still just 1% of the entire playerbase. 50% of which are in support of subs while still stuck at T5 for a year

[WascallyWabbit]

2 hours ago, Europizza said:

Calling WG geniuses is showing lack of understanding what an actual genius makes.

The Word Genius was ironic, a "condescending" genius, you should maybe see my other posts, i am rarely if ever complimentary of anything wargaming do. As the CC's were mainly negatively vocal in the last year or two WG have lost nothing by them resigning, they are still going to be negative. Meanwhile affiliate programmes are hugely successful in other games and the negative CC programme had become a liability to WG's frankly scummy monetisation strategy. 

 

I do however think WG will use this to kill the existing CC programme because it's one thing random streamers pooping on the company but it's another thing having CC's affiliated to wargaming doing it it looks even worse. Knowing WG's dubious past i would not be suprised if the whole incident wasn't manufactured to get this precise result. A mass exodus of CC's so they can kill the programme in a short period of time while shifting the blame to the CC's.

 

WG either orchestrated the whole crisis to kill the CC programme or they will take advantage of the situation to kill the CC programme.

 

Apologies to all if the "Genius" quote came across as a compliment it was most certainly not meant to appear that way, i don't think there is a genius anywhere in WG, except maybe the guy running the art department.

[ShuggieHamster]

i wouldn't ever describe any move by weegee as genius UNLESS it was the sleaziest, morally corrupt and underhanded move possible .... AND ONLY THEN could I quite easily see them having made that move deliberately. 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

13 minutes ago, WascallyWabbit said:

The Word Genius was ironic, a "condescending" genius, you should maybe see my other posts, i am rarely if ever complimentary of anything wargaming do. As the CC's were mainly negatively vocal in the last year or two WG have lost nothing by them resigning, they are still going to be negative. Meanwhile affiliate programmes are hugely successful in other games and the negative CC programme had become a liability to WG's frankly scummy monetisation strategy. 

 

I do however think WG will use this to kill the existing CC programme because it's one thing random streamers pooping on the company but it's another thing having CC's affiliated to wargaming doing it it looks even worse. Knowing WG's dubious past i would not be suprised if the whole incident wasn't manufactured to get this precise result. A mass exodus of CC's so they can kill the programme in a short period of time while shifting the blame to the CC's.

 

Apologies to all if the "Genius" quote came across as a compliment it was most certainly not meant to appear that way, i don't think there is a genius anywhere in WG, except maybe the guy running the art department.

I wasn't aware of your other posts, just triggered by that sentence lol. I agree with the assessment that WG is more then happy to kill the CC program in favor of the new Afilliate program, and the CC's probably did them favor, cynically speaking. ^^

 

In any way, I'm entertained.

[WascallyWabbit]

Just now, ShuggieHamster said:

i wouldn't ever describe any move by weegee as genius UNLESS it was the sleaziest, morally corrupt and underhanded move possible .... AND ONLY THEN could I quite easily see them having made that move deliberately. 

That's the move i believe they made lol.

[WascallyWabbit]

Just now, Europizza said:

I wasn't aware of your other posts, just triggered by that sentence lol. I agree with the assessment that WG is more then happy to kill the CC program in favor of the new Afilliate program, and the CC's probably did them favor, cynically speaking. ^^

 

In any way, I'm entertained.

Rereading the "genius" bit myself it does appear praise even though the post was def not a praising post maybe i should ammend it to "EVIL GENIUS" lol.