Things you should do to help the Ex-CCs

[DDMafiaAssociateMember]

1: The smaller CCs have much less of an established viewer base than the big folks. This is much more of a risk for them, so make sure to encourage them, consider watching them or donating to them to help them out (bonus points if you use money you planned to spend on WG products).

2: Leave a negative review of the game on steam. Outline the issues with the game and discourage new players from joining. Don't make your review about the CCs or it will get slapped for review bombing.

3: Either stop playing entirely or at least stop paying money. Encourage your clan mates and friends to do the same.

 

This will likely be our only chance to ever get any sort of change from WG, so we'd best not waste it.

[DDMafiaAssociateMember]

Also: write to your local political representative about lootboxes.

[Axilian_1]

In the UK you can petition parliament - to discuss an issue - for example Selling loot boxes  and gambling to Children

 

I suggest someone in the UK may like to consider this

[rage1750]

If I see them in game, I give them a shout out along the lines of "Good decision *CCNAME HERE*, showing WG the middle finger was the right choice".

 

 

[FukushuNL]

3: best stop playing the game alltogether. Playing the gane mostly says "I don't really care what you do, I'll keep coming back for more of it". 

 

I do enjoy the regular time to time gameplay, but as long as people "show their support" by playing the game, what people say on the forums or on social media doesn't matter. CCs leaving doesn't matter if the fans of the CCs give them a virtual pat on the back, then start up the game again. Who ARE a nessecity for WG are most of the F2P crowd to keep the servers alive and the whales to keep the money coming in. 

 

So either keep the masses from playing, which is a hard thing to do as they only play the game and don't follow the forum or social media. Or you have to get the whales on your hand, who should be a bit easier reachable but most of them seem to care more about owning more pixels than getting treated correctly. 

 

Neither of the options is doable because of the lack of caring throughout the player base. So the only way to get WG to change their ways is through the rising anti-lootbox rulings in the world or find something dirty internally at WG, like what happens at Blizzard-Activision. And even then, as long as nobody or no organisation is burnt on making WG and co really feel it, WG will hold a reorganisation, tell the world their usual "we understand and do better in the future" then let everything slide into the background and pick up where they left.

 

 

[Aethervoxx]

2 hours ago, who_dares_wins said:

donating to them to help them out

This and finding a way to crowdsource/kickstart a viable alternative to this rapidly devolving disaster.

[MimosA_A]

It's not like the CC's have to stop streaming or making videos or anything. They didn't lose income. They've just lost early access to content and some events.

[Cammo1962]

15 hours ago, MimosA_A said:

It's not like the CC's have to stop streaming or making videos or anything. They didn't lose income. They've just lost early access to content and some events.

That is not entirely true @MimosA_A some of the small CCs are living of streaming WoWs content because that's what their followers want. So that the followers can get crates and other things from the CCs.

 

[MimosA_A]

6 minutes ago, Cammo1962 said:

That is not entirely true @MimosA_A some of the small CCs are liveing of streaming WoWs content because that's what their followers want. So that the followers can get crates and other things from the CCs.

 

Yes, and they can still stream WoWS content. Apart from the CC codes and early access, not much changes. If the audience is only around for the crates it's never gonna work out either way... They haven't lost access to the game, they haven't lost their ability to stream, they just lost the official co-operation with WG and the perks that come with that.

[Cammo1962]

1 minute ago, MimosA_A said:

Yes, and they can still stream WoWS content. Apart from the CC codes and early access, not much changes. If the audience is only around for the crates it's never gonna work out either way...

Well it does for the smaller once that streams WoWs contents because many of them will lose viewers if they dont have these tings to give away i have seen it. And the bigger CCs can better handle it because they have a better network then the smaller once so for the little CC it for them to live or die

[triumphgt6]

3 hours ago, Axilian_1 said:

In the UK you can petition parliament - to discuss an issue - for example Selling loot boxes  and gambling to Children

 

I suggest someone in the UK may like to consider this

You need 100,000 signatures to get a debate - I doubt there are enough UK players who are on this forum to reach anywhere near this number. Shame though.

[chazwozza]

Think I’ll pass

[Spartan_Renegade]

These lightweight CCs on Twitter are just stirring up unwanted drama to garner sympathy (and contributions) from fans cause they all thrive on negativity and some of them even make it their life ambition to profit off of it. 

They need Weegee just as much as Weegee needs them lulz...

 

If you're feeling charitable, donate to causes that actually matter. 

 

https://www.barrierreef.org/

https://www.savetherhino.org/

https://www.savethekoala.com/

https://www.bwar.org/

https://www.aspca.org/

https://battleshiptexas.org/donate/

 

Just to name a few...

 

 

 

Let the downvotes commence ;)  

[bushwacker001]

1 hour ago, Spartan_Renegade said:

These lightweight CCs on Twitter are just stirring up unwanted drama to garner sympathy (and contributions) from fans cause they all thrive on negativity and some of them even make it their life ambition to profit off of it. 

They need Weegee just as much as Weegee needs them lulz...

 

If you're feeling charitable, donate to causes that actually matter. 

 

https://www.barrierreef.org/

https://www.savetherhino.org/

https://www.savethekoala.com/

https://www.bwar.org/

https://www.aspca.org/

https://battleshiptexas.org/donate/

 

Just to name a few...

 

 

 

Let the downvotes commence ;)  

totally agree......after all it's just a game. If these people are living off posting videos then maybe get into another game or get a proper job. 

[Miscommunication_dept]

11 hours ago, triumphgt6 said:

You need 100,000 signatures to get a debate - I doubt there are enough UK players who are on this forum to reach anywhere near this number. Shame though.

I all about spreading things a little more widely.

 

Do you agree that WG should stop selling loot boxes? - No one will know what you are talking about.

Should games for children be banned from using gambling such as loot boxes and bundles to protect children?

 

People will understand this and it's wide enough to  make people think: "Well of course, we shouldn't expose children to gambling." 

[Spartan_Renegade]

25 minutes ago, bushwacker001 said:

totally agree......after all it's just a game. If these people are living off posting videos then maybe get into another game or get a proper job. 

 

Indeed. Some streamers (don't want to name them) are more toxic than entertaining and them getting axed would be well deserved considering how they spend their time ranting about ...well just about everything.  I bet most of these people haven't worked a day in their life for all that wealth and free goodies they're hoarding.  

[bushwacker001]

5 minutes ago, Spartan_Renegade said:

 

Indeed. Some streamers (don't want to name them) are more toxic than entertaining and them getting axed would be well deserved considering how they spend their time ranting about ...well just about everything.  I bet most of these people haven't worked a day in their life for all that wealth and free goodies they're hoarding.  

And then they whine about WG making money off kids :)

[Myrmix]

I hope the Ex-CCs do more together, like divisions or just gaming together. Drawing attention to the smaller channels who grow in response and support them.

[bai7200]

1 hour ago, Spartan_Renegade said:

These lightweight CCs on Twitter are just stirring up unwanted drama to garner sympathy (and contributions) from fans cause they all thrive on negativity and some of them even make it their life ambition to profit off of it. 

They need Weegee just as much as Weegee needs them lulz...

 

If you're feeling charitable, donate to causes that actually matter. 

 

https://www.barrierreef.org/

https://www.savetherhino.org/

https://www.savethekoala.com/

https://www.bwar.org/

https://www.aspca.org/

https://battleshiptexas.org/donate/

 

Just to name a few...

 

 

 

Let the downvotes commence ;)  

I agree, LWM was doing a lot for the playersif you ask me, but most of rest was/is earning money from their content, and is making a lot of drama out of this. Yes LWM was treated like s… and i fully understand why she left, but some of the others i really could not Care less, its not new that WGis scumbags and some of the CC`s have all of a sudden grown morale due to the huge dumpsterfire WG created lately.

Just for the record, WG is scum, and theyshould listen to the players(not only the unicums), and the way they earn money is pure money scam

[Rockstone_III]

16 hours ago, who_dares_wins said:

Also: write to your local political representative about lootboxes.

Thats the best thing anyone can do. While immoral, lootboxes are not illegal. It tells you exactly what comming up next that you are about to buy - just like any commercial.

 

Nope... its clearly a moral question, so you would need a politician... to change the law.
(I realise this sentence may sound contradictive - but I have not other way of putting it). 

[Echo_519]

Well, i think the problem with "streamers" is that too many kids believe that they can easiely earn a lot of money with it because they see other succeed in it, not realizing that it takes a lot more then what they think. You see it all the time, kids naming big clans in their streamtitle trying to tell "look how great of a player i am being in this top clan", but the only thing is see is "if your skill is high enough to meet those arrogant requirements to be in such a "great" clan and you still only have 10 viewers, there probably is an issue with your personality that prevents you from having more then 10 viewers..." I know, the truth hurts, but not everyone is made to be a "streamer". Some just don't have the right character/personality for it and should look for a job better suiting their abilities, for their own sake....

[Axilian_1]

1 hour ago, Commander_Rockstone said:

Thats the best thing anyone can do. While immoral, lootboxes are not illegal. It tells you exactly what comming up next that you are about to buy - just like any commercial.

 

Nope... its clearly a moral question, so you would need a politician... to change the law.
(I realise this sentence may sound contradictive - but I have not other way of putting it). 

 

It sort of depends whether they get classified as Gambling - If they do then there is a legal age limit

 

in the UK atm lootboxes are not considered gambling and do not come under Gambling Act 2005 , so atm WG can continue the dodgy action of selling lootboxes to children etc. The law needs to change as there's too many stories of kids costing their parents serious money because they are too young to understand there is  cost and there are various MPs that are already pushing for that

 

In Belgium  lootboxes have been classified as gambling and are banned (i.e. ILLEGAL)  - the gaming community there seems a lot better for it as well

[DaBung]

7 minutes ago, Axilian_1 said:

 

It sort of depends whether they get classified as Gambling - If they do then there is a legal age limit

 

in the UK atm lootboxes are not considered gambling and do not come under Gambling Act 2005 , so atm WG can continue the dodgy action of selling lootboxes to children etc. The law needs to change as there's too many stories of kids costing their parents serious money because they are too young to understand there is  cost and there are various MPs that are already pushing for that

 

In Belgium  lootboxes have been classified as gambling and are banned (i.e. ILLEGAL)  - the gaming community there seems a lot better for it as well

I am UK based. It is interesting to read this. I absolutely think there needs to be regulation on these loot boxes, they are addictive just like gambling is… and that’s what makes them dangerous. 

[MimosA_A]

2 minutes ago, DaBung said:

I am UK based. It is interesting to read this. I absolutely think there needs to be regulation on these loot boxes, they are addictive just like gambling is… and that’s what makes them dangerous.  

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8498/

[RazorBlade72]

If you don't like the game or the way WG treats you then simply uninstall the game and quit. If you keep playing then you are still part of the product that is sold.