Update 0.10.7: Submarines in Ranked Battles

[Hakssor]

Worst update since I've started playing:

• Subs in ranked which just got hugely buffed and not every ship has counterplay against them
• Underwhelming rewards in Dockyard, the worst since Dockyard was launched. It's gonna be the first dockyard I won't grind. T5 premiums are almost worthless.
• DZP it's a very poor T8 cruiser which is a pity because the ship is gorgeous
• No legendary captain for Dutch ships and Michiel de Ruyter is just for returning players apparently
• Clan battles at T6 with 2 CVs and no Graf spee, literally wth? That surely looks like the worst CB ever held.
• Missouri can be obtained only with gambling
• Ranked without uneven tiers

The only good things are the possibility to unmount modules for free and seeing Premium  in real-time. I rate this update 1/10. 

[Benser33]

1 hour ago, MortuaEst_1 said:

No legendary captain for Dutch ships and Michiel de Ruyter is just for returning players apparently

There is still a unique commander, not legendary but those aren't exactly common.

 

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Early Access to our new ship branch is ongoing! To mark the occasion, we've added a whole chain of combat missions.

The first chain will become available 1 week after the update goes live, while those that follow will be unlocked each subsequent week.

Completing the combat missions will bring you the following rewards:

• Unique Dutch Commander Klaas Janssen with the following enhanced skills:

 

[Hakssor]

44 minutes ago, Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu said:

There is still a unique commander, not legendary but those aren't exactly common.

 

 

Every nation with a line except Pan-Asia(but they are not really a nation and a historical cmd is harder to find) has a legendary commander with talents, how is not common. When italian cruisers were launched we got Samsonetti and when european destroyers came we got Jerzy. Here we get a fictional guy with no talents. Everything WG does in this update is worse than what they did before.

[Benser33]

Just now, MortuaEst_1 said:

Every nation with a line has a legendary commander with talents, how is not common. When italian cruisers were launched we got Samsonetti and when european destroyers came we got Jerzy. Here we get a fictional guy with no talents.

"Every" nation also has non-legendary unique commanders who are fictional, or do you think Jean-jacque Honore and Franz von Jutland are real? Janssen and De Ruyter have the same skills and maybe some day they'll add someone like Karel Doorman or something, maybe when they add the perfectly feasible dutch DD line.

 

Also, Panasia hasn't had a legendary commander this entire time.

[Hakssor]

50 minutes ago, Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu said:

"Every" nation also has non-legendary unique commanders who are fictional, or do you think Jean-jacque Honore and Franz von Jutland are real? Janssen and De Ruyter have the same skills and maybe some day they'll add someone like Karel Doorman or something, maybe when they add the perfectly feasible dutch DD line.

 

Also, Panasia hasn't had a legendary commander this entire time.

How is that relevant to what I said? Yes, I know the others are fictional as well. You can't compare with those anyway as these guys are not in the armory. De Ruyter is not even available and Janssen is just missions in the next update. So in 10.8 there won't be any Dutch unique commander available. The last 2 nation releases had legendary commanders, this one doesn't. I'm comparing the releases of the nations and how WG is doing less and less. It would've been a great way to finish the release of the dutch cruisers with a campaign/collection. The part2 of the dutch arc just feels lazy but I'm guessing it's also because of the subs.

[Van_Bazel]

so much for listening to playerbase

account for poef

[Nagine]

9 hours ago, Ironballs57 said:

They promised no submarines ever - they lied.  No-one wants them

I want submarines. Does that make you a liar? I think WG's "lie" told several years ago during beta test is much more understandable than yours.

[Cheeky_chappie]

Just checked what this tier 5 prem ship container can drop... Really WG? Marblehead and Marblehead Lima?!
For those of you who don't know, those two ships are identical(Omaha class, but worse) the only thing changing in the "Lima" version is the red camo, which provides the exactly same bonuses as the standard prem ship camo. I really hope there is some system in place to prevent owners of either version dropping the other from the container, because otherwise this is just a cruel joke, instead of a new ship that plays and feels differently you are essentially getting a paintjob...
Oh and there is the Murmansk in there too! Can't have enough floating citadels eh, WG? At least this one is slightly different.

Edit: And what about the tier 7 containers... Atlanta and Scharnhorst both have black versions. Can you get a duplicate ship if you already own the black version?

[koliber_1984]

24 minutes ago, Cheeky_chappie said:

Just checked what this tier 5 prem ship container can drop... Really WG? Marblehead and Marblehead Lima?!
For those of you who don't know, those two ships are identical(Omaha class, but worse) the only thing changing in the "Lima" version is the red camo, which provides the exactly same bonuses as the standard prem ship camo. I really hope there is some system in place to prevent owners of either version dropping the other from the container, because otherwise this is just a cruel joke, instead of a new ship that plays and feels differently you are essentially getting a paintjob...
Oh and there is the Murmansk in there too! Can't have enough floating citadels eh, WG? At least this one is slightly different.

Edit: And what about the tier 7 containers... Atlanta and Scharnhorst both have black versions. Can you get a duplicate ship if you already own the black version?

Of course you can, Black versions are actually different ships with the same stats

[Ruth_clifton]

i  got  398  days prem

[ODIN_Allfather_]

I've only played for a couple of years and, to be honest, its just as enjoyable now as ever.  Since WW2 things have changed in Naval warfare, WG is just moving with the times.  Every game has to evolve, otherwise they become stale.  

The complaints about CVs and now subs are a bit mute, every battle group of major powers use them.  CVs are escorted by BBs (or modern equivalent) Cruisers and DDs.  Somewhere in the background a sub will be lurking.  The Japs kicked Americas [edited]at Pearl Harbour using CVs, then the Yanks kicked Japan's [edited]at Midway, again using CVs.  They are part of naval warfare and should be part of the game.  Subs are the same, it's a case of being aware, if you know one is around take evasive action accordingly, HMs/m Conqueror proved that in the Falklands.  

Would all the whiners be happy if they removed CVs and Subs but then stopped adding anything to the game at all?  Just kept the same ships until everyone had them all?  The game is changing, adapt and learn or just put your ships in port and retire.

 

[Prophecy82]

5 minutes ago, ODIN_Allfather_ said:

Every game has to evolve, otherwise they become stale.  

 

There are other ways to evolve the game, like adding new maps and modes. 

And if subs mean even more camping then the game becomes even more stale. 

[hellhound666]

one of the stupidest things i've ever read ...

[Nagine]

36 minutes ago, ODIN_Allfather_ said:

Would all the whiners be happy if they removed CVs and Subs but then stopped adding anything to the game at all?  Just kept the same ships until everyone had them all?  The game is changing, adapt and learn or just put your ships in port and retire.

 

Shhh... After removing CVs and subs people will turn again to DDs - the main culprit of all bad things and losses in the game since the earliest of days :)  There will ALWAYS be a class that "clearly shows how evil WG is".

 

Sadly, barely anyone talks about soviet CVs, gambling and other WG's nonsense - everyone just whines about the inevitable doom that subs will surely bring, even though they had minimal gameplay impact during sandbox. I guess, WG's distraction plan is working perfectly.

[Fistler3277y]

Off topic question: do people still buy premium content? even tho the dev obviously doesnt care about the product and is implemanting cashgrab after cashgrab? how can consumers be so stupid?

[_Geronimmo_]

I do not understand this whining over the forum. WG is the profit firm and they offer their products and services. If you do not like it, do not buy it. I did not spend a cent since December last year and certainly I will not spend a single euro by the end of this year. This is the best message to WG (and I was spending a lot in previous years). I am not happy with the state of the game, and I am not happy with their offers and effort. The Summer sale event is particularly disappointing.

No need to waste your time and energy on the forum. Just do not spend money on WoWS.

[llHEROll]

why does ranked always have ranks that cvs are in game, why not 8/9/10, give people a break from cvs for at least one ranked tier

[ZaalKoris_vas_QwibQwib]

I'm kind of sad that Brisk is going away. I understand it was easy to abuse on fast capital ships, but that was actually super skill for US Bricks battlewagons. With flag and Brisk you could go 24.5-26.5 knots for about two-three minutes at the start of the game before being spotted. That was actually meaningful tangible gain for folks who never could reach the battle area in a timely fashion. Especially in co-op where now, after last patch, games last 3-4 minutes top.

 

Give US BBs up to tier 7 at least some mobility, perhaps some special module or another engine upgrade. Put them on par with Nelson. I don't understand why we have in game retarded torpedoes going at 100kts, but few low-tier US BBs have to suffer pain of moving around map in geological time. Oh and let's not forget now subs torpedoes got 80+ kts speed bump. Glorious... Insanity!

[Nagine]

2 hours ago, Fistler3277y said:

Off topic question: do people still buy premium content? even tho the dev obviously doesnt care about the product and is implemanting cashgrab after cashgrab? how can consumers be so stupid?

 

Do you buy beer in your favorite corner pub? Even tho the bartender oviously is there just to get some cash, the beer is sometimes warm and the tables are always cracking? how can consumers be so stupid? And there is even a rumour that the pub will introduce a new beer soon! THE HORROR!!! Everyone should promise to stop drinking immediately!

[MrWastee]

yet again.... is that lil dot in the corner a wows community team boat?!...

 

[BruceRKF]

2 hours ago, ZaalKoris_vas_QwibQwib said:

Give US BBs up to tier 7 at least some mobility, perhaps some special module or another engine upgrade. Put them on par with Nelson. I don't understand why we have in game retarded torpedoes going at 100kts, but few low-tier US BBs have to suffer pain of moving around map in geological time. Oh and let's not forget now subs torpedoes got 80+ kts speed bump. Glorious... Insanity!

The US dreadnoughts retain a higher percentage of their maximum speed while turning, so there's that (not sure if it's only the tech tree ships though). They are still awfully slow, but it's something.

[Tall_Toot]

You see, this is why as a player you should never say 'Well at least they can't make it any worse ..'

 

Some developers they take it a challenge..

[Cammo1962]

On 8/9/2021 at 3:00 PM, The_EURL_Guy said:

Ranked Battles with submarines in the mix, the Rotterdam Dockyard, and other new features coming your way in Update 0.10.7!

Read it on the portal

@The_EURL_Guy you (WG) are putting the Missouri into loot boxes are you totally nutts or are you just greedy ??

[Franz_von_Suppe]

5 hours ago, ZaalKoris_vas_QwibQwib said:

I'm kind of sad that Brisk is going away.

It is not going away. It moves from row 4 to row 2.

[Jonathan078NL]

On 8/9/2021 at 7:20 PM, ZaalKoris_vas_QwibQwib said:

Exactly my thoughts. My question is why Groeningen camo looks like ship waiting for scrapyard. It's all bumped up, scratches all over the place, rust gushing in many places. On the other hand Friesland look very sleek and clean, how proper Premium should look like. I was so ready to switch Friesland to Groeningen in first second, but I'll not. Camo looks really like half-[edited]job.

 

I have two questions still:

 

1. If user has every T5 ship in the game will he/she get doubloons, credits , resources?  Zero explanation.

 

2. With regard to Constellation. It's so infuriating to play when most of the times only 4 forward guns can fire and you press and mash the LMB and nothing happens. Can we expect at least extension of the +200% exp mission because you released ship with fatal technical flaw and fix arrives a month later?

 

 

And of course no cure for pandemic disease which struck bots in Co-op. 

 

 

I just hope Groningen will also get the Friesland camo, Friesland was promised to be a dutch nation ship but she will not be, last-minute decision to add Groningen with a far less attractive camo then her sister. I don’t get that. Atleast make Groningen look like her. Friesland was the ship I wanted for the dutch nation, with the looks included. Can’t be that hard to give her also the Friesland camo, and to be generous; also give Friesland the Groningen camo. They have distinct hull numbers so…

 

Already saved 930k FXP for her but the camo holds me off, Friesland camo just looks better to be honest.