Full price Marceau or Lutjens?

[Godlyuniverse_1]

So i have about 190k coal and i do not have a coupon since i used it to purchase Bourgogne, my dilemma is that i could either:

 

A. Save up more coal and purchase Marceau for full price

or

B. spend the coal on Unique Commander Lutjens, i can put him on my newly acquired Mainz and recent pommern as well as either Elbing/Hindenburg.

 

the obvious answer would have been Marceau but now i could use Lutjens effectively on many of my german ships, so which one do you guys think is the better option?

I'm solely looking for opinions rather than what i think.

TIA 

[Miscommunication]

I would say Lutjens (since you can't use coupons on commanders) and then wait for the next ships coupon to use on Marceau.

[MementoMori_6030]

You can use a commander at any tier.

You can use a ship only at its tier spread, in this case T8-T10.

 

[Godlyuniverse_1]

21 minutes ago, Mavewreck said:

I would say Lutjens (since you can't use coupons on commanders) and then wait for the next ships coupon to use on Marceau.

thats what im thinking to do but being sent back to 10 pts is a bit depressing

[Miscommunication_dept]

How many german premiums do you have?

 

For me I use Lutjens on Mainz, Immelmann, Pommern, Tirpitz, Tirpitz B, Scharnhorst, Odin and Zf-6. He is trained on the Elbing.

 

If you haven't got many german premiums then I would say you should ignore him. 

 

Marceau is a great ship and if I were you I would wait for the coupon and buy it in December.

 

However, If you think you will have enough steel for another steel ship before next June, you should save the coupon for that and pay full price for the Marceau!

[Matty814]

59 minutes ago, Godlyuniverse_1 said:

So i have about 190k coal and i do not have a coupon since i used it to purchase Bourgogne, my dilemma is that i could either:

 

A. Save up more coal and purchase Marceau for full price

or

B. spend the coal on Unique Commander Lutjens, i can put him on my newly acquired Mainz and recent pommern as well as either Elbing/Hindenburg.

 

the obvious answer would have been Marceau but now i could use Lutjens effectively on many of my german ships, so which one do you guys think is the better option?

I'm solely looking for opinions rather than what i think.

TIA 

I would strongly advise only spending your resources  on a shipwhen you have a coupon, unless you are sitting on a huge stockpile. 

 

Wait until Xmas, use coupon and then put the remaining coal you have towards Lutjens would be my advice.

[Godlyuniverse_1]

13 minutes ago, Matty814 said:

I would strongly advise only spending your resources  on a shipwhen you have a coupon, unless you are sitting on a huge stockpile. 

 

Wait until Xmas, use coupon and then put the remaining coal you have towards Lutjens would be my advice.

then wouldnt it be better to buy lutjens now so i can utilise him on my ships then save up for marceau with coupon?

[Godlyuniverse_1]

20 minutes ago, gopher31 said:

How many german premiums do you have?

 

For me I use Lutjens on Mainz, Immelmann, Pommern, Tirpitz, Tirpitz B, Scharnhorst, Odin and Zf-6. He is trained on the Elbing.

 

If you haven't got many german premiums then I would say you should ignore him. 

 

Marceau is a great ship and if I were you I would wait for the coupon and buy it in December.

 

However, If you think you will have enough steel for another steel ship before next June, you should save the coupon for that and pay full price for the Marceau!

I have Z-39, Mainz and Pommern for german premiums and i have Elbing/Hindenburg for silver that i could train him on. Also i just spent my steel on bourgogne and i wont have the time to grind steel till next June due to starting college this year so coal is a more viable resource for me. 

[Jvd2000]

Buy expensive ships with coupon. steel has priority above coal.  When I have used my coupon and still have coal to spent  I either buy legendary commanders ( you can’t use the coupon on them anyway) or a cheaper coal ship ( T7 and below)  where the use of  a coupon would be a waste. 

Otherwise you can save up the coal IF you are set upon collecting as much freemium ships as possible and only buy ships when you will still have 100 - 150k coal after the purchase. In this case when WG withdraws a ship you can still get the coal in the remaining 3 months.

[Gwynbleidd11]

Better get Marceau. It's an old ship and will be removed at some point. Unique captains are too expensive and only special commanders for 35k are actually worth it

[KillStealBoss]

20 minutes ago, Gwynbleidd11 said:

Better get Marceau. It's an old ship and will be removed at some point. Unique captains are too expensive and only special commanders for 35k are actually worth it

Salem is older and it's not going anywhere. WG isn't removing a ship cause it's old - they look at popularity and effectiveness. And from that side Marceau is pretty good and effective. It's also pretty popular. And these are the reasons why it might be taken out. 

[Verblonde]

4 hours ago, Godlyuniverse_1 said:

so which one do you guys think is the better option?

FWIW I tend to think along the following lines:

• Ships are generally better than captains.
• Steel is more valuable than coal.
• Always use coupons on steel ships before coal (the latter is much easier to accumulate), except in the possible situation of a desirable coal ship being removed before you can get the full price in coal.

I believe the next ship coupon renewal is in December; so, I'd suggest only using the current ship coupon on a coal ship if there is zero chance of getting enough steel for a ship before the next renewal.

[Miscommunication_dept]

Are we concerned that Marceau might get removed?

Its more popular than the Smalland that was removed for being too popular…

[totally_potato]

8 hours ago, Godlyuniverse_1 said:

So i have about 190k coal and i do not have a coupon since i used it to purchase Bourgogne, my dilemma is that i could either:

 

A. Save up more coal and purchase Marceau for full price

or

B. spend the coal on Unique Commander Lutjens, i can put him on my newly acquired Mainz and recent pommern as well as either Elbing/Hindenburg.

 

the obvious answer would have been Marceau but now i could use Lutjens effectively on many of my german ships, so which one do you guys think is the better option?

I'm solely looking for opinions rather than what i think.

TIA 

I'd say Lutgens. 

Think about it. TLDR is

Lutgens is an essential boost to all German ships (even the CVs), so you unlock new potential on many ships

OR

A very competitive FR DD, but you can just play Kleber and get a similar if not better experience

[Ocsimano18]

You need a lot of commander XP to level up Lütjens to a usable level. If you use him as a 10 pointer, then it does not really worth it.

[ZaalKoris_vas_QwibQwib]

Get the ship if you want badly right now, but preferably wait for the discount coupon to come back into Armory.

 

Get the Commander if you want to miss on Marceau Permanently. Lütjens is kind of meh if he's less than 18/19 points.

 

WG has nasty habit of removing ships when you are like week from acquiring it. I've missed JB by less than a week (yay!) and I'm worried I'll too miss on Marceau after getting Napoli, just finger crossed they won't shaft me 2nd time before end of the year, unless I have some exceptional luck with (Super)Containers.... 

 

Problem with Marceau is that it is everywhere so writing is on the wall for this unit. That's why my advice is: stick to grinding Coal and wait for a coupon. Commanders will be in Armory permanently and who knows perhaps we'll get finally that Commander coupon which was mused in the streams on few occasions. If WG announces removal of Marceau you won't be surprised with pants down.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

37 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

You need a lot of commander XP to level up Lütjens to a usable level. If you use him as a 10 pointer, then it does not really worth it.

 

IIRC around 2M "Elite Commander XP"... and that is enormous...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[_HomTanks_]

12 hours ago, Godlyuniverse_1 said:

So i have about 190k coal and i do not have a coupon since i used it to purchase Bourgogne, my dilemma is that i could either:

 

A. Save up more coal and purchase Marceau for full price

or

B. spend the coal on Unique Commander Lutjens, i can put him on my newly acquired Mainz and recent pommern as well as either Elbing/Hindenburg.

 

the obvious answer would have been Marceau but now i could use Lutjens effectively on many of my german ships, so which one do you guys think is the better option?

I'm solely looking for opinions rather than what i think.

TIA 

How often do you play your KM ships and how often would you play Marceau if you get it?

The commander can be utilized in different ships and could provide more use versus getting one ship and playing it every now and then (or even seldom if you have many other ships).

 

Since you won't be able to save up enough steel until next June and since playing 4-5 ships with a legendary commander is a better/more fun experience than playing a single ship, I'd say get the commander. This way you would also keep your coupon for next ship purchase.

[Miscommunication_dept]

47 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

IIRC around 2M "Elite Commander XP"... and that is enormous...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

At the commander reowrk I had nearly 29,000,000 Elite commander XP.

Even now I only have just over 20,000,000. 

 

I've spent 9 million more than I earnt to get 21 pointers and to change their builds.

[Ocsimano18]

38 minutes ago, gopher31 said:

At the commander reowrk I had nearly 29,000,000 Elite commander XP.

Even now I only have just over 20,000,000. 

 

I've spent 9 million more than I earnt to get 21 pointers and to change their builds.

You're kind of the exception, not the rule. The OP is probably in a different situation.

[Miscommunication_dept]

3 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

You're kind of the exception, not the rule. The OP is probably in a different situation.

No I understand that. Just saying that getting captain even from 19-21 points costs so much.

 

[tocqueville8]

14 hours ago, Godlyuniverse_1 said:

So i have about 190k coal and i do not have a coupon since i used it to purchase Bourgogne, my dilemma is that i could either:

How much steel do you have?

 

Ideally, you'd want to get Marceau at full price in a couple if weeks (it might get withdrawn in the future), then Lutjens at full price and another steel ship with the coupon in a few months.

 

Heck, I paid full price for the Neustrashimy (296k coal), as I spent my coupon on a steel ship (Plymouth).

 

However, if you have lots of German premiums and no good French captain, since the Marceau is staying for now, you might get Lutjens first.

I'd just save the coupon for a steel purchase, as they're almost always more costly if we assume the 1:10 exchange rate, not to mention coal is easier to get.

[Rockstone_III]

I bought Lutjens and put him on my GK... fun as hell and should improve with the upcomming rework.

[Paddington01]

Is this commander coupon an urban myth or......... I'm saving up for Lütjens as a German secondary fanatic and would be pretty miffed if I'm gonna spend an extra 40k coal for nothing

[VonBlund]

53 minutos antes, Paddington01 dijo:

Is this commander coupon an urban myth or......... I'm saving up for Lütjens as a German secondary fanatic and would be pretty miffed if I'm gonna spend an extra 40k coal for nothing

At this point there are more chances of seeing Kitakami hit the armory than the commander coupon.