[DCG] plain_average Players 143 posts 4,701 battles Report post #1 Posted August 5, 2021 Hi, How about a novel idea and make sure that carriers _NEVER_ fight ships of lower tiers, since they usually are woefully inadequate to protect from them. Example, when playing a tier 3 ships without any AA to speak of and getting to fight a tier 4 carrier - or even as a tier 6 cruiser without the "Defensive AA Fire" that gets to fight tier 8 carriers and just get raped because of what appears as infinite (I know they are not infinite) planes. Carriers fighting lower tier ships are so horribly OP against them. Back in the day ships could move to prevent being hit by bombers etc, but today its almost impossible - or requires insane skill to navigate so a carrier pilot do not hit you two or three times in row with bombs and when you are a lower tier, that is many times enough to just take your ship out, which gives a very bad play experience. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Tanaka_15 Beta Tester 2,514 posts 20,269 battles Report post #2 Posted August 5, 2021 Limit carriers to strong 0 per game!!!! 11 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #3 Posted August 5, 2021 Vor 16 Minuten, Tanaka_15 sagte: Limit carriers to strong 0 per game!!!! They should get a special gamemode, where they fight other CVs exclusively. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DCG] plain_average Players 143 posts 4,701 battles Report post #4 Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, MementoMori_6030 said: They should get a special gamemode, where they fight other CVs exclusively. I disagree - carriers make ships move, otherwise BB's would just park their ship somewhere nice and never move. 1 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #5 Posted August 5, 2021 Vor 7 Minuten, bjornsmith sagte: I disagree - carriers make ships move, otherwise BB's would just park their ship somewhere nice and never move. So moving does protect a BB from getting struck by planes? I disagree. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #6 Posted August 5, 2021 There should be a limit of 1 CV per team at T4. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DCG] plain_average Players 143 posts 4,701 battles Report post #7 Posted August 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said: So moving does protect a BB from getting struck by planes? I disagree. From torps yes, if you are aware of what is happening around you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #8 Posted August 5, 2021 Vor 9 Minuten, bjornsmith sagte: From torps yes, if you are aware of what is happening around you. Maybe you are playing another game than me, but in my game torps are much faster than a BB, which has the added impediment to accelerate/decelerate and turn like a brick, so all but the most imbecile CV afficionado can torp a BB with closed eyes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #9 Posted August 5, 2021 Vor 11 Minuten, Camperdown sagte: There should be a limit of 1 CV per team at T4. Better: Let them start at T6, like subs. So we can play T1-T4 with actual joy. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DCG] plain_average Players 143 posts 4,701 battles Report post #10 Posted August 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said: Maybe you are playing another game than me, but in my game torps are much faster than a BB, which has the added impediment to accelerate/decelerate and turn like a brick, so all but the most imbecile CV afficionado can torp a BB with closed eyes. True, but if you turn when the torps are in the water you are doing it wrong. You turn towards the planes or away from the planes so you make yourself the smallest possible target. So moving have an effect on torps - not so much on bombs/rockets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RossijskijAxisFlot Players 683 posts 4,171 battles Report post #11 Posted August 5, 2021 I want Taiho bacc 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #12 Posted August 5, 2021 does this game even have carriers? seeing them in battle is kind off rare 1 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[O-V] johncl Players 390 posts 16,105 battles Report post #13 Posted August 5, 2021 Another stupid CV post ....CVs are OP 1v1 ...but they are ...Only in 85% of games we play ....and only make up 8% of the team ..4% of the time they can make 16% of the team SO please use your brain when posting .. 2 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-YR-] Alfa_Tau Players 887 posts Report post #14 Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, bjornsmith said: Hi, How about a novel idea and make sure that carriers _NEVER_ fight ships of lower tiers, since they usually are woefully inadequate to protect from them. Example, when playing a tier 3 ships without any AA to speak of and getting to fight a tier 4 carrier - or even as a tier 6 cruiser without the "Defensive AA Fire" that gets to fight tier 8 carriers and just get raped because of what appears as infinite (I know they are not infinite) planes. Carriers fighting lower tier ships are so horribly OP against them. Back in the day ships could move to prevent being hit by bombers etc, but today its almost impossible - or requires insane skill to navigate so a carrier pilot do not hit you two or three times in row with bombs and when you are a lower tier, that is many times enough to just take your ship out, which gives a very bad play experience. It would be quite easy to fix it. 1 x CV x Team give all low tiers some AA even a small one would be better than ZERO increase the time necessary to rebuild planes, But of course the Devs are busy with the release of the new premiums ... more fantasy almost/porn female captains etc etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ITA] Kr1gsG4ldr Players 194 posts 13,285 battles Report post #15 Posted August 5, 2021 5 minuti fa, AxisMarine ha scritto: I want Taiho bacc Make Hiryu great again! xD 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-YR-] Alfa_Tau Players 887 posts Report post #16 Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, johncl said: Another stupid CV post ....CVs are OP 1v1 ...but they are ...Only in 85% of games we play ....and only make up 8% of the team ..96% of the time where the can make 16% of the team SO please use your brain when posting .. The OP has very few battles. You should be more polite in your answer, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #17 Posted August 5, 2021 Vor 16 Minuten, bjornsmith sagte: You turn towards the planes or away from the planes so you make yourself the smallest possible target. And you present the largest possible broadside target to everybody else, if the CV player has a bit situational awareness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #18 Posted August 5, 2021 Vor 9 Minuten, johncl sagte: Only in 85% of games we play Play T4, please, and readjust that estimation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEEUW] PaxtonQuigly Players 224 posts 5,946 battles Report post #19 Posted August 5, 2021 55 minutes ago, bjornsmith said: I disagree - carriers make ships move, otherwise BB's would just park their ship somewhere nice and never move. If you mean "move away from objectives and into groups of ships at max range from each other" then: yes, youre right. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[O-V] johncl Players 390 posts 16,105 battles Report post #20 Posted August 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, Alfa_Tau said: The OP has very few battles. You should be more polite in your answer, I'm not a polite person .. So you have no need to tell me how to be And 1600 battles is plenty .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[O-V] johncl Players 390 posts 16,105 battles Report post #21 Posted August 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said: Play T4, please, and readjust that estimation. I'm taking in to account all tier's ....looking at just one tier would give different results ..but that was not what the OP was saying ..And to be honest T4 CVs are so Crap that i don't need AA .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SYD] Molly_Delaney Players 1,200 posts 4,600 battles Report post #22 Posted August 5, 2021 I was watching a streamer last week (NOT Flambass!!) who suggested a minimum of 2 CVs per team in each match..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #23 Posted August 5, 2021 48 minutes ago, Camperdown said: There should be a limit of 1 CV per team at T4. There should be a limit of 1 CV per team at all tiers. Well, personally I'm at the stage where I just backed the suggestion from Captain @Tanaka_15 in post #2 above, of imposing a zero (0) CV limit, but I somehow doubt that WG will go for that option. So if Santa turns up with a 1 CV limit, hey, I'll take it! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #24 Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, MementoMori_6030 said: They should get a special gamemode, where they fight other CVs exclusively. And the beauty of this is that since CV:s can't fight other CV:s effectively (despite the misleading in-game ship description that says otherwise), they will remain stuck in that special game mode for a loooong time. I'm sure they will have lots to talk about! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RossijskijAxisFlot Players 683 posts 4,171 battles Report post #25 Posted August 5, 2021 23 minuti fa, Molly_Delaney ha scritto: I was watching a streamer last week (NOT Flambass!!) who suggested a minimum of 2 CVs per team in each match..... I think 3 is the perfect number 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites