Firespam

[tocqueville8]

10 hours ago, Pukovnik7 said:

Problem is, battleships are supposed to tank for the team. If I see a cruiser pushing forward, I do my best to go in front of it to draw fire.

 

Imho a BB's job is not to tank for the team, but to crossfire, so that no enemy can safely hide behind or next to an island, nor stay angled against all BBs at the same time.

 

The ability to tank is nice because it allows BBs to keep their crossfiring position longer, but it doesn't mean tanking is their main job.

[Hedgehog1963]

Did anyone else read "Fire spam, fire spam" singing it to the tune of "Spiderman?"

 

Oh.  Just me then.

[Camperdown]

4 minutes ago, tocqueville8 said:

 

Imho a BB's job is not to tank for the team, but to crossfire, so that no enemy can safely hide behind or next to an island, nor stay angled against all BBs at the same time.

 

The ability to tank is nice because it allows BBs to keep their crossfiring position longer, but it doesn't mean tanking is their main job.

Ah, that explains those full HP BBs when the rest of the team is dead 

[Matt_FSR]

So there's absolutely nothing a BB can do about incoming HE shell spam....   except:

 

1) Take Fire Prevention as a captain skill, reducing fire chance by 10% and the number of fires from 4 to 3

2) Take Dam Con mod 1 to reduce fire chance by 5%

3) Take Dam Con mod 2 to reduce fire duration by 15%

4) Take Basics of Survivability to reduce fire duration by 15%

5) Mount India Yankee flag to reduce fire duration by 20%

6) Use Damage Con to extingish all fires instantly

7) Use one of 4, or 5 heals to repair all damage caused by fires

 

Meanwhile a slight mis-timed turn from a light cruiser can mean instant back-to-port.     Get a grip.   Fires are an issue, and have always been part of the game.  Learn to mitigate them, instead of crying about it.  

 

 

[Hot_Potato_Gruel]

7 hours ago, Uncl64 said:

Yea it takes forever, and while you do repair the fire damage you go to the map border, if you can and be of no use of the team

 

The rest of the rubbish post do I not intend to reply on

 

It is funny to see even big fat Yammas use HE instead of proper use AP, but sadly you do not see what is happen to the game play.

 

I know how to deal whit fire, I have all the cap skills set correct since one long time.

 

>Takes forever

Unless you happen to be in the high-tier 'slow' USN BBs, not really?

[Uncle64]

7 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Where is the problem then?

That is one responce to the "Git GuD" all says that you should have your Cap and how you should do.

FFS man start to read instead of type your rubbish

 

And why are you all assuming that all plays on Tier 10 and have caps that have 21 points?

Are you so stuck in your self that you cant see other things then your own tier?

 

My is one Tier 9 and have 16 points, it takes some time to get one Captain whit 21 points.

[ColonelPete]

26 minutes ago, Uncl64 said:

That is one responce to the "Git GuD" all says that you should have your Cap and how you should do.

FFS man start to read instead of type your rubbish

 

And why are you all assuming that all plays on Tier 10 and have caps that have 21 points?

Are you so stuck in your self that you cant see other things then your own tier?

 

My is one Tier 9 and have 16 points, it takes some time to get one Captain whit 21 points.

I was asking a question...

And no, this topic is not about Tier X, but all Tiers. And I have quite a few high Tier BB captains with less than 16 points....

[Hot_Potato_Gruel]

49 minutes ago, Uncl64 said:

That is one responce to the "Git GuD" all says that you should have your Cap and how you should do.

FFS man start to read instead of type your rubbish

 

And why are you all assuming that all plays on Tier 10 and have caps that have 21 points?

Are you so stuck in your self that you cant see other things then your own tier?

 

My is one Tier 9 and have 16 points, it takes some time to get one Captain whit 21 points.

The points raised in this discussion have all been valid; also, 16-18pts are probably enough to have all necessary survival skills.

 

[Uncle64]

9 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Where is the problem then?

You that cant read

[Hot_Potato_Gruel]

3 minutes ago, Uncl64 said:

You that cant read

...could you please show us your commander build on your T9 BB? We could help critique it, if required.

[159Hunter]

20 minutes ago, Hot_Potato_Gruel said:

...could you please show us your commander build on your T9 BB? We could help critique it, if required.

And the ship upgrades as well @Uncl64

[ColonelPete]

24 minutes ago, Uncl64 said:

You that cant read

I am pretty sure you complained about fire and later claimed youn knew how to handle it and now you see a problem in my reading skills... 

Looks more like you are running out of arguments...

[Gudgeon]

I play a shooter type game and people keep shooting my BB, while I think I should own everyone and take no damage....

 

 

[Pukovnik7]

10 hours ago, tocqueville8 said:

 

Imho a BB's job is not to tank for the team, but to crossfire, so that no enemy can safely hide behind or next to an island, nor stay angled against all BBs at the same time.

 

The ability to tank is nice because it allows BBs to keep their crossfiring position longer, but it doesn't mean tanking is their main job.

And then you lose the match because your battleships did not tank and so you have lost all your cruisers and destroyers...

[tocqueville8]

5 hours ago, Pukovnik7 said:

And then you lose the match because your battleships did not tank and so you have lost all your cruisers and destroyers...

As a BB player, you'll have much better success asking yourself at the start of the game "where do I go to set up a crossfire?" than "where do I go to tank some damage?"

 

Sure, some BB players hang too far back, but others play even worse when they rush in, get focused and sink before they've had time to use 2 heals.

 

Still, the main mistake I see people make is to stay all clumped together. 2 BBs crossfiring are worth a lot more than 3 that are not. You don't win games by taking damage, you win games by out-trading the enemy and getting map control. Tanking damage will happen as a natural byproduct of that, but it's not a goal.

 

The only ships where I actually try to tank damage are gunboats DDs like the Tashkent, which can attract a lot of fire, dodge most of it, repair some, and keep the enemy spotted and useless.

[HassenderZerhacker]

a game that necessitates the use of costly consumables is uninteresting.

[Uncle64]

On 8/6/2021 at 7:41 AM, 159Hunter said:

And the ship upgrades as well @Uncl64

Here you are.... I have not played the ship for the last 2 weeks.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2588848475

 

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2588848357

[The_Chiv]

On 8/5/2021 at 4:34 PM, tocqueville8 said:

 

Imho a BB's job is not to tank for the team, but to crossfire, so that no enemy can safely hide behind or next to an island, nor stay angled against all BBs at the same time.

 

The ability to tank is nice because it allows BBs to keep their crossfiring position longer, but it doesn't mean tanking is their main job.

I really wish people would stop trying to use tradition MMORPG roles as definers to WOWS SHIPS. It creates false assumptions of ship roles and how to play them. Even worse is the concept of the Rock, paper, scissors combat concept which many keep using as the basis for trying to tell others they are not playing the game correctly, when in fact that system does not apply in this game. 

[OldPappy]

On 8/5/2021 at 8:29 AM, Spartan_Renegade said:

enemy team is packed with spammy little sh*ts like Harugumo, Smaland, Halland, or Smolensk  

My favourite ships!😀

[Pandafaust]

5 hours ago, Uncl64 said:

Here you are.... I have not played the ship for the last 2 weeks.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2588848475

 

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2588848357

Does that ship still measure its concealment in Km, or has it had to switch up to AU? 

[Corneilius_iron]

Just imagine what it will be like when you have to decide on using DCP for homing pings or saving it for fires, the fun will really begin.

[Prophecy82]

6 hours ago, Uncl64 said:

Here you are.... I have not played the ship for the last 2 weeks.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2588848475

 

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2588848357

 

Why do you take no concealment at all? 

No wonder you have a hard time to disengage when you are visible from the moon.... 

Running no-conceal builds is extremely hard in this meta, wouldnt recommend. 

 

What is your plan with this build anyway... obviously its not secondaries. 

 

Maybe respecc the captain, its free right now. Especially get rid of all those 1-pt skills and invest into smth more useful. 

Free up 4 points there and then take concealment both in Skills as in 5th module slot. 

 

This should help you in beeing more survivable. 

[General_Alexus]

On 8/5/2021 at 2:23 PM, Hot_Potato_Gruel said:

...I'm prepared to bet that one fine day, you'll be farmed down by an Elbing and then you'll come here to complain about how OP AP shells are.

That was the exact reaction I got when grinding the Elbing-Line and giving BBs 5-7k salvos.

I was like: What do you guys want from me, I listend, you seem to hate HE so I offer you AP instead.

[mtm78]

On 8/5/2021 at 1:45 PM, ColonelPete said:

AP was and probably still is the biggest source of damage on BB.

 

WarLyingThroughTheirTeethNoSubmarineCasino should post their damage charts again, would be interesting to compare them with the one's from earlier in development. 

 

Anyway, all those BB players which are complaining, until I see 2 / 3 BB's MAXIMUM per team, BB's are still to easy to play. Bring back CBT team rosters, remove all the other ships who rely on overmatch besides Yamato ( Ow Yamato will always stay special dear players don't worry we won't put in bigger guns ... nah we'll put in guns which are couple mm smaller so only cruisers suffer as much, and we'll put in bigger guns anyway since nothing we say as a promise is actually worth anything ). 

 

Battleships are supposed to be the hardest class to play, yet they been given diaper after diaper and there are still players who can't make them work and then come complain the game needs to be dumbed down even more so even they can enjoy the glorious battleships. 

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, mtm78 said:

 

WarLyingThroughTheirTeethNoSubmarineCasino should post their damage charts again, would be interesting to compare them with the one's from earlier in development.

I try to get more current numbers for years. No success.