[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #26 Posted August 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, The_Chiv said: Open Beta did not have the HE issue. That didnt go live till like patch 5.3 Open Beta: https://forum.worldofwarships.asia/topic/7488-how-to-avoid-he-spam-from-cruisers/ It is the Asia forum, but we had the complaints here too. For example here: 15 minutes ago, fabatka said: Love when players says that "fire dmg is repairable". Yes that is what its for. While you repairing, you did not receive more HE or AP or torps. These things waits until you healed... It just means that these other damage sources are the issue, not fire. AP was and probably still is the biggest source of damage on BB. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_ziPQbxoJkOE7 Players 293 posts Report post #27 Posted August 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, fabatka said: Love when players says that "fire dmg is repairable". Yes that is what its for. While you repairing, you did not receive more HE or AP or torps. These things waits until you healed... Well, their fault for staying in the range of my F I R E S P A M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEEUW] PaxtonQuigly Players 224 posts 5,946 battles Report post #28 Posted August 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, The_Chiv said: Open Beta did not have the HE issue. That didnt go live till like patch 5.3 I stand corrected then. ;) But you understand my point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fabatka Players 153 posts 10,156 battles Report post #29 Posted August 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, DEADSNAKE2 said: Well, their fault for staying in the range of my F I R E S P A M Thanks to broken ships like Thunderer fire spam is from 22km to 0km. So, how do you hide? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fabatka Players 153 posts 10,156 battles Report post #30 Posted August 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Open Beta: https://forum.worldofwarships.asia/topic/7488-how-to-avoid-he-spam-from-cruisers/ It is the Asia forum, but we had the complaints here too. For example here: It just means that these other damage sources are the issue, not fire. AP was and probably still is the biggest source of damage on BB. With AP you have to extremely lucky to do serius dmg. Just check how many overpens, ricochet, torp-prot hits you have. And when you hit with 2 shells one is overpen dmg with 1160(for example Bissy) and the other PENETRATION hit does the same(1160) dmg. Total enjoyable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_ziPQbxoJkOE7 Players 293 posts Report post #31 Posted August 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, fabatka said: Thanks to broken ships like Thunderer fire spam is from 22km to 0km. So, how do you hide? By repositioning and/or abusing cover Holding fire so I can go undetected,etc CE on BBs is more valuable than some people give it credit for. Ya'll should try it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #32 Posted August 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, fabatka said: With AP you have to extremely lucky to do serius dmg. Just check how many overpens, ricochet, torp-prot hits you have. And when you hit with 2 shells one is overpen dmg with 1160(for example Bissy) and the other PENETRATION hit does the same(1160) dmg. Total enjoyable. And still it does a lot of damage in most matches... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 61,972 battles Report post #33 Posted August 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Durin_VI said: the choice to use or not to use is still there Yes but many people that grind lines can't afford it sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #34 Posted August 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, fabatka said: With AP you have to extremely lucky to do serius dmg. Just check how many overpens, ricochet, torp-prot hits you have. And when you hit with 2 shells one is overpen dmg with 1160(for example Bissy) and the other PENETRATION hit does the same(1160) dmg. Total enjoyable. Do some deep diving on these forums and you will find WG's graphs showing dmg distribution. AP is the main dmg dealer in those 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fabatka Players 153 posts 10,156 battles Report post #35 Posted August 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: And still it does a lot of damage in most matches... Yes, check german battleships's stats... So shiny, or... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fabatka Players 153 posts 10,156 battles Report post #36 Posted August 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, DEADSNAKE2 said: By repositioning and/or abusing cover Holding fire so I can go undetected,etc CE on BBs is more valuable than some people give it credit for. Ya'll should try it So easy to reposition with a 250m+ battleships... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #37 Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, fabatka said: Yes, check german battleships's stats... So shiny, or... I did... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fabatka Players 153 posts 10,156 battles Report post #38 Posted August 5, 2021 Just now, ColonelPete said: I did... At the bottom of the list... in all tier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_ziPQbxoJkOE7 Players 293 posts Report post #39 Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, fabatka said: So easy to reposition with a 250m+ battleships... Yes it indeed is Since vast majority of high tier battleships are already rocking 30 knots on average With the exception of the Vermont line of course issou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOSUB] Hot_Potato_Gruel Players 19 posts 11,064 battles Report post #40 Posted August 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, fabatka said: With AP you have to extremely lucky to do serius dmg. Just check how many overpens, ricochet, torp-prot hits you have. And when you hit with 2 shells one is overpen dmg with 1160(for example Bissy) and the other PENETRATION hit does the same(1160) dmg. Total enjoyable. ...I'm prepared to bet that one fine day, you'll be farmed down by an Elbing and then you'll come here to complain about how OP AP shells are. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fabatka Players 153 posts 10,156 battles Report post #41 Posted August 5, 2021 Just now, Hot_Potato_Gruel said: ...I'm prepared to bet that one fine day, you'll be farmed down by an Elbing and then you'll come here to complain about how OP AP shells are. I was. So nice to see, every salvo from elbing did 5-6k dmg. In exchange you can do 1,5k with 80% overpen rate. Balans komrade, balans. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOSUB] Hot_Potato_Gruel Players 19 posts 11,064 battles Report post #42 Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, fabatka said: I was. So nice to see, every salvo from elbing did 5-6k dmg. In exchange you can do 1,5k with 80% overpen rate. Balans komrade, balans. ...switch to HE? Also, are you suggesting that Elbing is OP? She's pretty nice, but calling her OP is....a stretch? Edited August 5, 2021 by Hot_Potato_Gruel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #43 Posted August 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, fabatka said: At the bottom of the list... in all tier. What has this do with how they do their damage or from what sources BB get damaged? And no, what you write is wrong. The low and mid Tier KM BB have some well performing ships. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fabatka Players 153 posts 10,156 battles Report post #44 Posted August 5, 2021 Just now, ColonelPete said: What has this do with how they do their damage or from what sources BB get damaged? And no, what you write is wrong. The low and mid Tier KM BB have some well performing ships. Yes, sure. In every tier russian fantasy BB ships are the top dmg dealers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOSUB] Hot_Potato_Gruel Players 19 posts 11,064 battles Report post #45 Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, fabatka said: Yes, sure. In every tier russian fantasy BB ships are the top dmg dealers. ...what's a '''BB ship'''? Also, if you're saying ''Russian'', the 'Russian' navy ships are at the low tiers (T2, 3, 4). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fabatka Players 153 posts 10,156 battles Report post #46 Posted August 5, 2021 Just now, Hot_Potato_Gruel said: ...what's a '''BB ship'''? Also, if you're saying ''Russian'', the 'Russian' navy ships are at the low tiers (T2, 3, 4). What was not clear? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOSUB] Hot_Potato_Gruel Players 19 posts 11,064 battles Report post #47 Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, fabatka said: What was not clear? I would like you to think it over for a few seconds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliesn Players 2,238 posts 16,405 battles Report post #48 Posted August 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, fabatka said: I was. So nice to see, every salvo from elbing did 5-6k dmg. In exchange you can do 1,5k with 80% overpen rate. Balans komrade, balans. At 5-6k damage, an Elbing needs more than a minute and a half to sink a full hp GK. That's entirely on you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #49 Posted August 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, fabatka said: Yes, sure. In every tier russian fantasy BB ships are the top dmg dealers. That does not make KM BB bottom of the list on every Tier. In case you did not notice, but we have more than 2 BB lines in the game... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #50 Posted August 5, 2021 Not this again.... Just a polite reminder too BB captains..... FIRE IS 100% REPAIRIBLE!!! I see tons of BB players putting the fire out as soon as they are lit as well these days so i don't know what's changed but i think its a lack of understanding around the fire , repair and heal mechanics and when best to apply them? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
