Submarines in Ranked and Co-op Battles

[Trench4nt]

Vor 2 Minuten, mel1111 sagte:

This once started as a very nice game with 40000 players at high time. Nowadays that is back to 50% of the initial public. 

 

Source?

[KillStealBoss]

8 minutes ago, Trench4nt said:

 

Source?

We don't need source, if you are playing long enough you should know it...

[Cybindis]

Submarines do not belong in this game. Especially not with the torpedo and diving mechanics and speeds that are not conducive to a fun experience for anybody other than the submarine player. 

 

If subs were slow when submerged and had to actively choose between positioning and safety then it would be more acceptable.

 

 

The whole sonar system and homing torps is just stupid, and takes any requirement for skill out of the game. Especially when 2 pings means a guaranteed citadel hit. 

 

 

The whole thing is just poorly designed and nobody alpears to want them. 

 

Just admit you are wrong and discontinue work on them and never work on them again because nobody wants anything to do with them other than streamers looking for video/stream views or people looking for submarines in the wrong game. 

 

There are submarine mobile games that offer more engaging submarines than whaf is on display. 

 

Let alone games like silent hunter and the offerings from killerfish like cold waters which offers startlingly realistic submarine combat in an easy to understand and easy to play fomat. 

 

 

Also one final thing. Submarines are not warships, theh are always referred to as boats. MTBs dont belong here and neither do subs. 

[YabbaCoe]

1 hour ago, hedgehog_s said:

This is how intelligent WG are - just popped up in NEWS in the game, read it nice bonus code to redeem - that ran out 3 days ago - seriously ??

 

It appeared there as we announced winners of https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/community/christmas-in-july/ as you can see big RESULTS over there. 

[hedgehog_s]

But no one bothered to remove the bonus code link ? Too busy working on subs I guess.

 

[Alfa_Tau]

3 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said:

Yes, if feels often like, they have a weird process like

 

Step 1: History deparment comes up with cool historical stuff

Step 2: Devs try to implement stuff

Step 3: Managers say, could it be less "eeh-history" and more fancy for the cool kidz?

 Step 4 : marketing dept suggest a new Tier VIII premium that will be far better than regular line ( 7 Provinces? ) 

Step 5 : playerbase complain BUT then buy it, 

 

WG repeat the whole process.

 

[Alfa_Tau]

55 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

I remember once it was 47k people at the peak time in January 2018 steel farming snowflake event

(13) Alena Presents Update 0.7.12 | World of Warships - YouTube

 

Those were days... I am still dreaming of Alena.. 

 

[mikecrack177]

cuando es la actualizacion

[Alfa_Tau]

Anyway Dear Yabbacoe it look like the majority of players didn't appreciate the implementation of the sub .

Perhaps originally the idea was okish but to include in the "normal" game... 

 

Sneak & Peak new premium Sub : WorldOfWarships (reddit.com)

 

 

[Auriel_58]

Why WG hates us ? First t6 clan battles and now we lose ranked too. To be constructive now. Subs don t fit in this game, in regular randoms there are already 4 dd-s and cv so there is really not much to shot on. When you add subs you will have more then half of team always invisible. Same goes for ranked, what you will have one ship to shot on hahah. Perhaps instead of wasting two years on useless type of ship you could have spared some time and effort to balance already existing ships. Regarding co-op, why would you played them there at first place ? Perhaps one game to see them in action and that is it. Now co op will last for ages because we will always have submarine hidden somewhere around the map. Since I already know with how I am talking this comment will probably get removed for lack of "feedback" or "constructiveness" hahaha, but yea lets hope for best. 

[mel1111]

Just read this forum, it says even more

47000

[mel1111]

1 hour ago, Trench4nt said:

 

Source?

Just check the rest of the forum, Someone even remembered 47000

[A_TSEDONG]

i will not play subs in random, because i know WG DONT cares about feedback and i dont care about this neither, why should i write about it, this management is..... more than 5 years of joy with the game and the community...  I  F... GRINDED THE FULL PUERTO RICO!!!!  ....make the step to bring them for randoms, go!    ....time to play other games...  

[gabberworld]

2 minutes ago, atze_atzig said:

i will not play subs in random,

 

but they not come to randoms at least not yet. maybe not even this year

[Srle_Vigilante]

The fact that were now going to have a class that's stealthier then DDs, with even less counter plays as DDs is honestly one of the saddest things that could happen to this game. And we thought stealth firing Zao was bad.

[gabberworld]

1 minute ago, Srle_Vigilante said:

The fact that were now going to have a class that's stealthier then DDs, with even less counter plays as DDs is honestly one of the saddest things that could happen to this game. And we thought stealth firing Zao was bad.

 

dunning to latest test they kind off weak at end battle, as they cant submerge anymore if oxygen is out.

[Srle_Vigilante]

2 minutes ago, gabberworld said:

 

dunning to latest test they kind off weak at end battle, as they cant submerge anymore if oxygen is out.

Shame that they ruined the game before that point.

Its like saying the CV is weak because as soon as it gets cornered at the end of the game its weak.

[gabberworld]

16 minutes ago, Srle_Vigilante said:

Shame that they ruined the game before that point.

Its like saying the CV is weak because as soon as it gets cornered at the end of the game its weak.

 

there is one catch tho about this. if they not spend oxygen in beginning then they be mostly fine.

but i seen at there soo many noobs that submerge right away

 

strategically it would be good if team have CV what makes that subs go to submerge, and then deal them later

[Maris_Piper]

1 hour ago, Alfa_Tau said:

(13) Alena Presents Update 0.7.12 | World of Warships - YouTube

 

Those were days... I am still dreaming of Alena.. 

 

That sounds like WG's glory days, alas when I started the downward slide was looming, soo sad  

[Alfa_Tau]

can't wait to see the usual friday streaming after the update will be released... 

I thinnk WG will disable the chat 

[Prophecy82]

Yay, were on youtube again! 

 

 

[KillStealBoss]

1 hour ago, atze_atzig said:

I  F... GRINDED THE FULL PUERTO RICO!!!! 

Wait, you did without paying a penny? 

[Nagine]

2 hours ago, Cybindis said:

nobody alpears to want them. 

 

I want them (also was repeatedly stating that in sandbox feedbacks) and glad they were finally introduced. Does that make me a WG shill, so my opinion doesn't count?

 

The current iteration is not realistic, but at least is not totally dumbed down. And it is fun hearing about unrealistic subs speeds or sonars, while all-seeing radars, regenerating planes or drifting warships are ok :)

[A_TSEDONG]

Vor 14 Minuten, MacArthur92 sagte:

Wait, you did without paying a penny? 

   jupp, only the first day at every step was crunchtime, i could celebrate christmas with family too ^^  not 1% got this, i was very proud (and f#cked up from the game for 2 weeks)

[WWDragon]

21 hours ago, Hugh_Ruka said:

Please do provide examples where submarines took part in fleet actions and actually killed ships that were either not already heavily damaged (Midway) or were alone and on their way home.

 

Taiho was sunk by the USS Albacore in the Battle of the Philippine Sea right after she launch her attack wave, certainly wasnt alone and on their way home. Likewise Shōkaku was sunk in the very same battle by USS Cavalla when she was in the process of refueling and rearming her planes.

 

USS Wasp was sunk by I-19 also during a refueling and rearming of her planes (ironically enough, for anti-submarine patrols) and she certainly wasnt alone as USS North Carolina, USS Helena, USS Lansdowne, USS Mustinand and USS O'Brien were with her, USS O'Brien was even hit during maneuvering to avoid a torpedo and USS North Carolina was also struck by one, of course that was a taskforce escorting transports carrying the 7th Marine Regiment to Guadalcanal so I suppose "it doesnt count", I suppose Kongo being sunk by USS Sealion doesnt either despite being in a fleet formation (along Yamato and Nagato) moving towards Kure for a reorganization, Urakaze was sunk as well by accident (torpedo missed and hit the destroyer instead), I could bring up USS Liscome Bay, but I think you should get the point by now .

 

Also funny you mention Midway since no US submarine sunk a carrier during that battle, the role of USN submarines was scouting, yes Yorktown was finally sunk by I-68 but how you get a sink ribbon is this game? is it by most damage dealt or by reducing HP to 0? Besides USS Hammann was sunk by I-68 but since I suppose those were torpedoes aimed at Yorktown it doesnt count either,

 

Lets be honest, no matter what I bring up you people will always find something to dismiss it because your mind is already set up, submarines sunk warships in WWII THAT IS A FACT, engagements like Jutland didnt happened in WWII, I should bring up what was the German plan that lead to Jutland involved submarines that didnt work because of a number of reasons but whats the point? No matter what you people wont change your minds so why bother?