Since detonations are worthless, why are they still an achievement

[RenamedUser_92906789]

2 minutes ago, Bellegar said:

Darling, I hate to break this to you, but there is no playstyle to avoid detonations. 

 

Only thing you can do is mitigate it by using the signal flag or the module. Or by not getting hit, but that does kind of defeat the purpose of the game...

 

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[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 5 Minuten, Bellegar sagte:

there is no playstyle to avoid detonations.

Isn't there this overpowered class which is immune to detonations (can't allow the griefers getting griefed, can't we?)...

[triumphgt6]

14,452 games - 87 detonations - last in June - I use the flags when I have them but don't buy them - I do remember detonating a Colorado with a single torp - it was before they introduced the no detonation if full health - he was full health! It has to be said he was less than amused!

Detonations not a huge problem but somewhat annoying when they do happen - and I think 10 flags was reasonable recompense for a game ruined through no fault of your own. 

[NobleRipper]

45 minutes ago, triumphgt6 said:

14,452 games - 87 detonations - last in June - I use the flags when I have them but don't buy them - I do remember detonating a Colorado with a single torp - it was before they introduced the no detonation if full health - he was full health! It has to be said he was less than amused!

Detonations not a huge problem but somewhat annoying when they do happen - and I think 10 flags was reasonable recompense for a game ruined through no fault of your own. 

I'm not entirely convinced that the full-health-no-deto system is fit for purpose to be honest, particularly on ships with lower health- if they get hit by a staggered salvo (particularly torps) or a couple in quick succession, they can go from 100% to <75%-and-boom in essentially the same amount of time. Given that that can still be basically the same, taking away the flags as a consolation is just cruel...

[LiveWire___]

It certainly needs to be harder for detonations to occur. 

 

Many nations had stringent measures in place to mitigate this.

 

Taking the flag away does seem overly punitive.

[SnipingCat]

Removed 3 posts due to being off-topic.

[NewHorizons_1]

Imagine this co-op game was a random match, and you had just bought Prinz Eugen - you probably wouldn't be happy : 2min into the game, a few seconds after being detected and ... sunk.

Now you don't even have the consolation of a few signal flags to prevent it happening next time.

Had to watch this replay slo-mo as, during the match, it looked like I had det'd a full health ship. But our GK had taken a ~12.6k chunk out of it just before so it was at 72% health.

GK could have had a right to feel a bit peeved too.

GK : 12k dmg that's not bad for a bow-on target, those puny cruiser HE shells NewHorizon's has fired won't do much. I'll get the Prinz Eugen with my next salvo.

** BOOM **

Me: WTH?

GK: WTF?

 

GK's AP and my Riga HE shells just about to hit

 

After GK's AP had bitten out a chunk and the first of my HE shells hit for a few hundred damage

 

2nd HE shell hits and detonates ...

 

... scoring me

 

 

[Bellegar]

3 hours ago, SnipingCat said:

Removed 3 posts due to being off-topic.

 

And yet this one is still here 

5 hours ago, nambr9 said:

 

+ 1

 

Noting personal @nambr9. Sometimes the moderation on here is just very... what's a polite way to put it... surprising. Yes, let's say surprising. 

[RenamedUser_92906789]

54 minutes ago, Bellegar said:

 

And yet this one is still here 

 

Noting personal @nambr9. Somethimes the moderation on here is just very... what's a polite way to put it... surprising. Yes, let's say surprising. 

 

You stayed on topic and I complimented :)

 

Guess its against rules to remove positive replies 

 

[RenamedUser_92906789]

59 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Imagine this co-op game was a random match, and you had just bought Prinz Eugen - you probably wouldn't be happy : 2min into the game, a few seconds after being detected and ... sunk.

Now you don't even have the consolation of a few signal flags to prevent it happening next time.

Had to watch this replay slo-mo as, during the match, it looked like I had det'd a full health ship. But our GK had taken a ~12.6k chunk out of it just before so it was at 72% health.

GK could have had a right to feel a bit peeved too.

GK : 12k dmg that's not bad for a bow-on target, those puny cruiser HE shells NewHorizon's has fired won't do much. I'll get the Prinz Eugen with my next salvo.

** BOOM **

Me: WTH?

GK: WTF?

 

GK's AP and my Riga HE shells just about to hit

 

After GK's AP had bitten out a chunk and the first of my HE shells hit for a few hundred damage

 

2nd HE shell hits and detonates ...

 

... scoring me

 

 

 

Imdeed.

 

Yet there are still people labeling this as fun and engaging + historically correct (Hood).

 

But in fact its nothing but a dice roll...

 

[NewHorizons_1]

Just now, nambr9 said:

Imdeed.

 

Yet there are still people labeling this as fun and engaging + historically correct (Hood).

 

But in fact its nothing but a dice roll...

I kinda feel that if detonations are to be in the game then, for ships that have a citadel, that needs to be penetrated first before there's a chance of losing the entire ship.

After all the ammunition magazine is protected by the citadel armour.

DDs (with no citadel) you could reduce the chance or the 75% health limit.

Detonating an armoured (OK relatively lightweight, cruiser level armour) with HE just feels wrong as you can't citadel a Prinz Eugen with 220mm HE rounds.

And no I wasn't using IFHE.

It wasn't the most satisfying 32k salvo I've done. Confusing yes, but not satisfying.

[Bellegar]

2 hours ago, nambr9 said:

 

You stayed on topic and I complimented :)

 

Guess its against rules to remove positive replies 

 

Have we finally reached the point where WG has to cherish literally every positive post on here, no matter what it's about? 

 

 

Really, threads get locked at staff's whims for being "non-constructive", but stuff like that is still up 

 

 

 

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let's see how long this one stays 

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[RenamedUser_92906789]

6 hours ago, Bellegar said:

Have we finally reached the point where WG has to cherish literally every positive post on here, no matter what it's about? 

 

 

Really, threads get locked at staff's whims for being "non-constructive", but stuff like that is still up 

 

 

 

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let's see how long this one stays 

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Add a nice positive signature towards wg and you will be safe forewer 

[Camperdown]

10 hours ago, Bellegar said:

Have we finally reached the point where WG has to cherish literally every positive post on here, no matter what it's about? 

 

 

Really, threads get locked at staff's whims for being "non-constructive", but stuff like that is still up 

 

 

 

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let's see how long this one stays 

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It is also an interesting double standard: posters on this forum have to be constructive, while WG can sabotage the game in any way they like 

[Arty_McFly]

I guess we reached the point at which we won't see anything on-topic anymore.

So... *drums*... Closed.