WilhelmII ∞ Players 55 posts 4,125 battles Report post #1 Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) You are in your ship you can see the enemy in the distance, you give chase you fire a few salvo's then suddenly 8 torps come at you from nowhere and only becoming visible just before they impact your ship you look and from the direction they have come and all you see is an island , no tell tale smoke screen nothing just an island, did it torp me , no just another invisible Destroyer. just look at picture, 2 enemy ships just left of island both visible these are the one's being chased, then look at the direction torps have come from, Yes this side of the island but nothing to show what fired them no smoke nothing, so how do you fight this?? you cannot you just get frustrated once again at this ongoing problem bug the Dev's cannot be bothered about as all they want is your money floggy this floggy that but fail to sort out the well documented invisible ships. Edited July 30, 2021 by WilhelmII spelling correction 1 30 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #2 Posted July 30, 2021 The Ise torp planes dropped torps on you. Watch the torp plane icon over your ship on the minimap. 22 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] Miscommunication Players 550 posts 6,680 battles Report post #3 Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, WilhelmII said: You are in your ship you can see the enemy in the distance, you give chase you fire a few salvo's then suddenly 8 torps come at you from nowhere and only becoming visible just before they impact your ship you look and from the direction they have come and all you see is an island , no tell tale smoke screen nothing just an island, did it torp me , no just another invisible Destroyer. just look at picture, 2 enemy ships just left of island both visible these are the one's being chased, then look at the direction torps have come from, Yes this side of the island but nothing to show what fired them no smoke nothing, so how do you fight this?? you cannot you just get frustrated once again at this ongoing prbblem bug the Dev's cannot be bothered about as all they want is your money floggy this floggy that but fail to sort out the well documented invisible ships. Errr, fella - there's torpedo bombers above you on the minimap. They're from that Ise in the background (it's a hybrid BB with torpedo bombers). They are annoying I do agree, but don't go blaming this on destroyer captains! 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,239 battles Report post #4 Posted July 30, 2021 Error 404, situational awareness not found 13 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WilhelmII ∞ Players 55 posts 4,125 battles Report post #5 Posted July 30, 2021 Ahh OK fair enough had not realised that , thx for heads up. 14 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PME] inkedsoulz Players 196 posts Report post #6 Posted July 30, 2021 Blind 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #7 Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Ocsimano18 said: The Ise torp planes dropped torps on you. Watch the torp plane icon over your ship on the minimap. when your not even in the game but u spot within 1 second what happened while the player in the game never figured it out Sad days 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Saltface Players 2,062 posts 18,464 battles Report post #8 Posted July 30, 2021 @WilhelmII Increase the size of your minimap and make a few basic ranges visible. In the minimap settings you can make the water transparent. It will help you understand what is going on. look at the following 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MACLD] Onsterfelijke Players 993 posts 18,864 battles Report post #9 Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, WilhelmII said: Ahh OK fair enough had not realised that , thx for heads up. I know in the heat of battle is hard to keep the minimap in mind but your scores will improve greatly when you do!. Luckly the ISE torpedoes are not to bad but if you see planes In your view or minimap start turning you will not evade the torps but they will have more trouble to hit you with all torpedoes just a few. And use Saltface tips it really helps! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,881 battles Report post #10 Posted July 30, 2021 avrg wows player right here. what is minimap and who needs it? right? right... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #11 Posted July 30, 2021 In fact the Ise is visible in the distance. I dont see any tell-tale ack-ack. Is his AA off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RDNT] ZeuSueZ1337 Players 434 posts Report post #12 Posted July 30, 2021 Starting such a tread going off at the deep end about "iNvIsIblE dEsTrOyErS" and not even in the paint edit realizing that there clearly are planes overhead that just literally dropped an ordnance of torps, awmagwad! A few days ago there were a thread 'bout what was most annoying to you........welp, perhaps players like this? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #13 Posted July 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, lameoll said: when your not even in the game but u spot within 1 second what happened while the player in the game never figured it out Sad days Well, the torpedo spread gave the first hint, it's typical Ise torp spread. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTT] tsounts [TTT] Players 1,711 posts 34,942 battles Report post #14 Posted July 30, 2021 "No smoke from the direction torpedoes came from"... Well, imagine if dds had to pop a smoke every time they dropped torpedoes.... 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCBG] BrusilovX Beta Tester 2,838 posts 23,904 battles Report post #15 Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, tsounts said: "No smoke from the direction torpedoes came from"... Well, imagine if dds had to pop a smoke every time they dropped torpedoes.... Or planes dropping smoke? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ITA] Kr1gsG4ldr Players 194 posts 13,285 battles Report post #16 Posted July 30, 2021 I know very well that Ise can be so annoying sometimes and can ruin the days of the unlucky players who get targeted even if the torps alpha isn't too high is always a bad thing receive. Indeed after i saw what happened in modes like ranked or random when she cames out, i decided use her only in scenario operations, even because when you go in this mode there is an high risk of find unexperienced cvs that don't know what to do like hunt dds (yes Ise's torps shine on doing this) or spotting some areas of the map so from an annoying tools i think she becomes quite...... useful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #17 Posted July 30, 2021 considering you need to park your ship somewhere in order to use them they are not that usefull. imagine shooting your guns and doing twice that damage in the time you get a strike off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #18 Posted July 30, 2021 4 hours ago, WilhelmII said: You are in your ship you can see the enemy in the distance, you give chase you fire a few salvo's then suddenly 8 torps come at you from nowhere and only becoming visible just before they impact your ship you look and from the direction they have come and all you see is an island , no tell tale smoke screen nothing just an island, did it torp me , no just another invisible Destroyer. just look at picture, 2 enemy ships just left of island both visible these are the one's being chased, then look at the direction torps have come from, Yes this side of the island but nothing to show what fired them no smoke nothing, so how do you fight this?? you cannot you just get frustrated once again at this ongoing problem bug the Dev's cannot be bothered about as all they want is your money floggy this floggy that but fail to sort out the well documented invisible ships. Why I can't uninstall the forums too? :/ 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #19 Posted July 30, 2021 47 minutes ago, lameoll said: considering you need to park your ship somewhere in order to use them they are not that usefull. imagine shooting your guns and doing twice that damage in the time you get a strike off It looks like that Ise in the picture is in a position where the planes are useful: if you have a target near enough to the ship, you can strike them with the planes in about the time it takes your guns to reload, so keeping your gun dpm where it should be. The other thing they can be helpful for is doing damage during periods when you've gone dark to heal. You're right though: you won't get the most out of Ise if you play her as a sort-of CV, rather than as a BB that happens to have planes. The main reason to play Ise is she's interesting, rather than because she's good (IMO). (Full disclosure: most of my battles in mine have been in PvE.) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ITA] Kr1gsG4ldr Players 194 posts 13,285 battles Report post #20 Posted July 30, 2021 5 ore fa, lameoll ha scritto: considering you need to park your ship somewhere in order to use them they are not that usefull. imagine shooting your guns and doing twice that damage in the time you get a strike off Exactly as Ver was explaining, better to use the planes when you have empty barrels or while you are dark to heal yourself. Better still if you have ships close by, which in the scenario mode often happens, as it often happens to find idiotic CVs and having the Ise allows you to save the situation in many cases, at least it has happened to me many times since i have it. For example, this morning in a Newport that i tried to do, our Ark Royal literally committed suicide by positioning itself outside the green area (even now i don't understand what she was going to do) leaving us without air coverage if not mine. Obviously at that point making 5 stars was a utopia, i did everything possible with my planes between spotting, dd hunt and Izumo to try to save the game and in the end we hardly made 2, but at least it was not a defeat with 0 stars. This i meant by useful. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #21 Posted July 30, 2021 3 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #22 Posted July 30, 2021 10 hours ago, ZeuSueZ1337 said: Starting such a tread going off at the deep end about "iNvIsIblE dEsTrOyErS" and not even in the paint edit realizing that there clearly are planes overhead that just literally dropped an ordnance of torps, awmagwad! This calls for some stat shaming (of the OP of course...) 3130 battles - 42.88% winrate... 2577 battles solo - 44.97% winrate (uhm... what?) 256 battles in 2 man div - 36.72% winrate (waitasec...whaaaat?) 297 battles in 3 man div - 29.97% winrate (is that even allowed????) 405 battles in CoOp - 98.02% winrate (which is, basically, potato level in CoOp, right?) So... a player with utterly no map awareness and probably no knowledge about specials that the game might throw at him - like hybrids and whatnots - manages to play better solo than in two or three player divisions? Wow... Or rather... WoWs... 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,413 battles Report post #23 Posted July 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Deckeru_Maiku said: 2577 battles solo - 44.97% winrate (uhm... what?) 256 battles in 2 man div - 36.72% winrate (waitasec...whaaaat?) 297 battles in 3 man div - 29.97% winrate (is that even allowed????) That's pretty reasonable if you div up with other <50% WR players. I mean, not everyone divs up to pad their stats... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N-B-M] Takethatyoubeast Players 705 posts 12,912 battles Report post #24 Posted July 30, 2021 I’m so glad I’m taking a break from this game 😂 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #25 Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, tocqueville8 said: That's pretty reasonable if you div up with other <50% WR players. I mean, not everyone divs up to pad their stats... Might be... but the 10 division battles I did mightily enhanced my winrate... In the case of the OP it might be a hard price he has to play to "have fun in a division"?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
