[INDIA] luokailk Players 377 posts 42,521 battles Report post #1 Posted July 25, 2021 Hi guys, will she stay in the armory after update 0.10.7 so we can apply the coupon? @MrConway It was not so clear in the announcement. Thanks in advance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] Miscommunication Players 550 posts 6,680 battles Report post #2 Posted July 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, luokailk said: Hi guys, will she stay in the armory after update 0.10.7 so we can apply the coupon? @MrConway It was not so clear in the announcement. Thanks in advance Knowing WG it will be one of the ships where you can't apply the coupon. Got to squeeze out every penny you can. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,469 battles Report post #3 Posted July 25, 2021 Just be aware that WG are playing on name recognition with this one. Like Belfast '43, this will be a ship that people will buy thinking it's very good only to find out otherwise. It probably still will be the best doubloon ship though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABUS] Chaoskraehe Freibeuter, WoWs Wiki Team 1,291 posts 10,716 battles Report post #4 Posted July 25, 2021 Vor 1 Stunde, gopher31 sagte: to find out otherwise I don't think Missouri is bad. I play her often and not only because of her improved income. I have a lot of fun with her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #5 Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, gopher31 said: Just be aware that WG are playing on name recognition with this one. Like Belfast '43, this will be a ship that people will buy thinking it's very good only to find out otherwise. It probably still will be the best doubloon ship though. Don't know. For me the best doubloon ship was and still is, Massa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,469 battles Report post #6 Posted July 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said: Don't know. For me the best doubloon ship was and still is, Massa. I meant available doubloons ships. Otherwise you have Georgia, Jean Bart and Musashi which are better than Missouri Massa is still one of the best T8 battleships! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #7 Posted July 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, Chaoskraehe said: I don't think Missouri is bad. I play her often and not only because of her improved income. I have a lot of fun with her. Bad no, good also no 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #8 Posted July 25, 2021 2 hours ago, luokailk said: Hi guys, will she stay in the armory after update 0.10.7 so we can apply the coupon? @MrConway It was not so clear in the announcement. Thanks in advance They haven't said, but from what they said it sure sounds like the answer is a no. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #9 Posted July 25, 2021 2 hours ago, gopher31 said: I meant available doubloons ships. She is out but knowing weegee they will send her back. If they did this with Missouri I don't see why not with one of the most popular doubloon ships in game. 2 hours ago, gopher31 said: Otherwise you have Georgia, Jean Bart and Musashi which are better than Missouri Massa is still one of the best T8 battleships! Nah, for me Missouri is still the best in tier 9, especially from those four. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,310 battles Report post #10 Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Hades_warrior said: Nah, for me Missouri is still the best in tier 9, especially from those four. he can be your favorite but from those ships he is not the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #11 Posted July 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said: he can be your favorite but from those ships he is not the best. But also not the worst. All 4 have their own flavor making them strong in a different playstyle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,310 battles Report post #12 Posted July 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, 159Hunter said: But also not the worst. All 4 have their own flavor making them strong in a different playstyle. except from radar he hasnt got anything better then those ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #13 Posted July 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Wulf_Ace said: except from radar he hasnt got anything better then those ships. Guns are good, armor is not bad either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #14 Posted July 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Wulf_Ace said: except from radar he hasnt got anything better then those ships. So what do the other 3 have that's so special? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,469 battles Report post #15 Posted July 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, 159Hunter said: So what do the other 3 have that's so special? Georgia: speed, accuracy, secondaries and fast reload heal. Jean Bart: speed boost, reload booster and better citadel protection. Musashi: hit points, overmatch, this ship is just overpowered. Apart from radar, the Missouri is just an Iowa with a worse heal and Iowa is not great! So the question is how useful is radar in a battleship. As a solo player I find it to be more of a defensive weapon. Those who play in division will get much better use out of it I am sure. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #16 Posted July 26, 2021 I never really liked Iowa, so I never got Missouri. As for Musashi, there is one very significant weakness (at least for me). Turret rotation. It prevents me from taking central position... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliesn Players 2,238 posts 16,405 battles Report post #17 Posted July 26, 2021 6 hours ago, gopher31 said: Georgia: speed, accuracy, secondaries and fast reload heal. Jean Bart: speed boost, reload booster and better citadel protection. Musashi: hit points, overmatch, this ship is just overpowered. Apart from radar, the Missouri is just an Iowa with a worse heal and Iowa is not great! So the question is how useful is radar in a battleship. As a solo player I find it to be more of a defensive weapon. Those who play in division will get much better use out of it I am sure. Everybody has their favourites and all that, but Iowa is a very good ship. I play Missouri as a solo player and I can tell you radar is a fantastic tool (It is also a bad game design, but that's another discusion) This was my Missouri's game yesterday: Z See that Z-23 at the bottom of the red team? I killed her. Well, I actually didn't get to shoot her once because there was a huge island between us. Our Kita sunk her from her smoke whilst I radared the poor dab. No damage taken. Also, the two red Yugumos along with the Repu, Richelieu and Henri were rolling our other flank and were about to caught our CV, so I moved into position and the Yugumos turned back (this might not work against good players, but, well) Neither of these can be achieved with an Iowa or a JB or a Georgia or a Musashi, all of whom are good ships in their own right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #18 Posted July 26, 2021 7 hours ago, gopher31 said: Georgia: speed, accuracy, secondaries and fast reload heal. Low amount of guns is a big downside for me. Secondaries are still useless atm. 7 hours ago, gopher31 said: Jean Bart: speed boost, reload booster and better citadel protection. And HE dmg piñata 7 hours ago, gopher31 said: Musashi: hit points, overmatch, this ship is just overpowered. And yet the dispersion makes Yamato so much better. 7 hours ago, gopher31 said: Apart from radar, the Missouri is just an Iowa with a worse heal and Iowa is not great! Iowa is a great BB. Nice stealth, manoeuverable good guns and layout. 7 hours ago, gopher31 said: So the question is how useful is radar in a battleship. As a solo player I find it to be more of a defensive weapon. Those who play in division will get much better use out of it I am sure. Even as a solo player radar can be an offensive weapon. Claiming missouri is the worst is just wrong. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,469 battles Report post #19 Posted July 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, 159Hunter said: Claiming missouri is the worst is just wrong. I didn't. Other than that you do make good points and as Taliesn suggests, everybody has their favourites. I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #20 Posted July 26, 2021 20 hours ago, Wulf_Ace said: except from radar he hasnt got anything better then those ships. Btw, we can always look at the numbers, for a ship that has nothing going for it but radar it sure wins more than 2 of the others: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #21 Posted July 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, 159Hunter said: Btw, we can always look at the numbers, for a ship that has nothing going for it but radar it sure wins more than 2 of the others: that's a rather skewed statistics. Missouri was the T9 first premium to be cut from the game. Far earlier than JB and the others. So those having Missouri are the more seasoned people (excluding lottery winners) so it should have better stats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #22 Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Hugh_Ruka said: that's a rather skewed statistics. Missouri was the T9 first premium to be cut from the game. Far earlier than JB and the others. So those having Missouri are the more seasoned people (excluding lottery winners) so it should have better stats. The first one is from last 7 days. And playing longer / more games does not equal being better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] arcticstorm123 Players 472 posts 20,205 battles Report post #23 Posted July 26, 2021 WG does Jedi mind trick "This is not the Missouri you are looking for....." , will not have the same credit earning buff (existing users get an additional perpetual mission to keep theirs) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #24 Posted July 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, 159Hunter said: The first one is from last 7 days. And playing longer / more games does not equal being better. and what does the timeframe of the stats have to do with date of acquiring the ship ? yes playing longer does not equal better but it generally is the case ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #25 Posted July 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, arcticstorm123 said: WG does Jedi mind trick "This is not the Missouri you are looking for....." , will not have the same credit earning buff (existing users get an additional perpetual mission to keep theirs) yeah , and if you not care about radar then it same class like iowa XD, basically garbage, unless if WG gives you guarantee win with all unigum players in one team 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites