Figment Beta Tester 3,801 posts 10,499 battles Report post #51 Posted July 22, 2021 9 hours ago, Tanaka_15 said: Radar last longer than 30s, for DM it is over 60s. And this shuld laso be limited. There is way to many radars in this game. Not to mention disparity per side in ranked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] The_Chiv Players 1,592 posts 18,060 battles Report post #52 Posted July 23, 2021 Can not believe Im going to say something in support of DD. If ships had unlimited radar it would make all dd play suicidal and pointless. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEA] Robber_Baron Players 1,322 posts 7,981 battles Report post #53 Posted July 23, 2021 21 hours ago, Taliesn said: just some electric power so it should work at all times. South Dakota disagrees. To OP: you do realize that radar IRL can't get through islands? And I don't know what the effect of rough seas, hurricanes and rain squalls are on 1940s ship radars, but the latter at least limited the capacity on the air defence radar I worked on. Clutter should've been a thing back then as well. For sure radar IRL doesn't simply make the enemy visible like a livestream to the entire team. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #54 Posted July 23, 2021 anyone knows how fast it was communication between ships?, i was thinking that in war there was no way communicate all ships in same time, unless they used the discord or skype for multi conversation basically you should not able see all the ships all the time to they use Morse code? that takes time for type, that also means there was delay for know exactly where is the ships 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Tanaka_15 Beta Tester 2,514 posts 20,222 battles Report post #55 Posted July 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, gabberworld said: anyone knows how fast it was communication between ships?, i was thinking that in war there was no way communicate all ships in same time, unless they used the discord or skype for multi conversation basically you should not able see all the ships all the time yech, coordintin fire ship to ship was almost imposible at this time. and i would love for limiting spoting. like if you are closer than 8km form ally you can see what he is spoting if not you cant but wg will never do this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POILU] Sink_Different Players 348 posts 23,738 battles Report post #56 Posted July 23, 2021 23 hours ago, gabberworld said: ... but now there is problem why the hell ships have limited radars? Radars can detect you through land masses, very limited indeed. Do you have anything else to complain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #57 Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Sink_Different said: Radars can detect you through land masses, very limited indeed. Do you have anything else to complain? they detect metal objects, you could make ships plastic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,846 battles Report post #58 Posted July 23, 2021 23 hours ago, gabberworld said: with Missouri i cant protect myself from dds because they have unlimited torpedoes, would not say that its balanced why? pressing asdw keys is too hard for you? 23 hours ago, gabberworld said: as for dd player myself, i like that unbalance judging by your first comment i doubt that this "unbalance" would help you at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,846 battles Report post #59 Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, gabberworld said: anyone knows how fast it was communication between ships?, i was thinking that in war there was no way communicate all ships in same time, unless they used the discord or skype for multi conversation basically you should not able see all the ships all the time to they use Morse code? that takes time for type, that also means there was delay for know exactly where is the ships has it ever crossed your mind that its an arcade game, not a simulation? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #60 Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, ghostbuster_ said: judging by your first comment i doubt that this "unbalance" would help you at all. im just thinking that the Missouri is a crap ship, you can see i started first line with that text Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,846 battles Report post #61 Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, gabberworld said: im just thinking that the Missouri is a crap ship, you can see i started first line with that text what does missouri worse than any other BB against DDs? in fact, she is much better than any other BB when it comes to dealing with DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #62 Posted July 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, ghostbuster_ said: what does missouri worse than any other BB against DDs? in fact, she is much better than any other BB when it comes to dealing with DDs. yeah it can be that its not worse than others, but, i not see that its worth doubloons either , especially how many ever got it a long time ago with FXP only what makes Missouri spetsial is that it have radar. another is that its rare, but like you self tell already others ships are not bad either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliesn Players 2,238 posts 16,405 battles Report post #63 Posted July 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, gabberworld said: yeah it can be that its not worse than others, but, i not see that its worth doubloons either , especially how many ever got it a long time ago with FXP only what makes Missouri spetsial is that it have radar. another is that its rare, but like you self tell already others ships are not bad either She's better than most BBs against DDs, because of that radar. I suspect you get less targeted with torps on her than on other BBs, because that radar acts as a deterrent even when it's not active. Whether you think that (and the better or in the case of old Missouri extremely better economy) trumps Iowa's superheal and slightly better dispersion/handling is up to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWDragon Players 1,297 posts Report post #64 Posted July 23, 2021 10 hours ago, gabberworld said: anyone knows how fast it was communication between ships?, i was thinking that in war there was no way communicate all ships in same time, unless they used the discord or skype for multi conversation Coded transmitted in Morse code but two way voice radios existed, after all what were the Walkie-Talkies? Also it was entirely possible to send and transmit several messages at the same time, this is why there were flagships to begin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #65 Posted July 23, 2021 9 hours ago, ghostbuster_ said: has it ever crossed your mind that its an arcade game, not a simulation? yeah, that is probably the most over-used excuse for sh*tty or at least lazy gamedesign... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #66 Posted July 24, 2021 20 hours ago, gabberworld said: yeah it can be that its not worse than others, but, i not see that its worth doubloons either Not worse than others? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #67 Posted July 24, 2021 8 hours ago, 159Hunter said: Not worse than others? that stats means nothing really, as this ship is rare, allot current new player base not have that, lets talk about real stats after when it comes to market another thing is that there was the captain skill changes as well recently, that stats cant be 100% accurate to ship between old and new changes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #68 Posted July 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, gabberworld said: that stats means nothing really, as this ship is rare, allot current new player base not have that, lets talk about real stats after when it comes to market so according to your logic we cannot say that musashi is a strong BB because it is not on the market? So what about Kutuzov, or Smolensk, or Enterprise? All ships that are no longer on the market... You must work for WG, such wonkie logic is only found in their sales department. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #69 Posted July 24, 2021 it has the most played games of all ships except from silver ships how do those stats mean nothing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #70 Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, 159Hunter said: so according to your logic we cannot say that musashi is a strong BB because it is not on the market? So what about Kutuzov, or Smolensk, or Enterprise? All ships that are no longer on the market... when allot noobs start buy them and play them , the ships winrate starts drop. now because regular ships can have everyone, then yes those numbers are lower. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #71 Posted July 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, lameoll said: it has the most played games of all ships except from silver ships how do those stats mean nothing Hint: they don't correspond with his narrative. So they must be wrong 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #72 Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, gabberworld said: when allot noobs start buy them and play them , the ships winrate starts drop. now because regular ships can have everyone, then yes those numbers are lower. Those ships were available for ages, yet you seem to think only unicums bought them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #73 Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, 159Hunter said: Those ships were available for ages, yet you seem to think only unicums bought them? i not have Missouri , tell me where i can get that right now with credit ? even if those rare ships was ages, not every player have those Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABUS] Chaoskraehe Freibeuter, WoWs Wiki Team 1,291 posts 10,709 battles Report post #74 Posted July 24, 2021 Vor 48 Minuten, gabberworld sagte: i not have Missouri , tell me where i can get that right now with credit ? even if those rare ships was ages, not every player have those I got mine last year from a Satan's crate. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,846 battles Report post #75 Posted July 24, 2021 21 hours ago, Deckeru_Maiku said: yeah, that is probably the most over-used excuse for sh*tty or at least lazy gamedesign... Radar is a shitty game design? Had you been around before radar was introduced? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
