Borodino in the Armory and Premium Shop

[300ConfirmedKills]

I'm glad that WG is finally being forthright and honest with potential customers by letting them know at the point of purchase that premium ships are subject to balancing changes (as they obviously should be, as part of a purportedly free to win game). They are going backwards in many areas, so it's nice to see improvements in places. Hopefully this tendency will grow in strength within WG and they will commit wholeheartedly to balancing existing premiums, made available before that notice was in place.

 

On the other hand, the following statement relating to Johann de Witt is quite misleading:
This note should make it clear that after the Early Access period, JdW can be obtained from the tech tree as a researchable ship. It is disappointing to this mistake repeated a third time, following the Early Access periods of Italian BBs and the USN BB branch, respectively.

[PhantomSailor]

6 hours ago, Smeggo said:

Hm, no, different ships & playstyles. Borodino has Battlecruiser-dispersion and radar.

hahaha no it doesn't!!!!
It's a Massa dispersion.. it's f'ing horrible, if that is called Battlecruiser dispersion in your eyes... you clearly haven't played much!

Lenin and Vlad are tanking ships with 32mm armor.... yes they are different ships, but for up-close... Borodino isn't a close-up ship!
It's big, bad armor, long reload, bad dispersion, terrible concealment.... Borodino has NOTHING of value over Vlad or Lenin! 

@The_EURL_Guy Borodino should be buffed in Concealment and Gun dispersion!

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 VIII Borodino excels in medium- and close-range encounters thanks to her good concealment, strong armor, and the Surveillance Radar consumable, which is rarely found on battleships.

A statement that is CLEARLY false... Vladivostok clearly is better and have better armor... Why lie WG, just to sell a bad Premium?

[USS_Billy_Herrington]

5 minutes ago, PhantomSailor said:

 

A statement that is CLEARLY false... Vladivostok clearly is better and have better armor... Why lie WG, just to sell a bad Premium?

Vladivostok also has better concealment. 

[PhantomSailor]

2 minutes ago, USS_Billy_Herrington said:

Vladivostok also has better concealment. 

12,16 km sea concealment compared to 13,72 km.. quite a difference though.

[USS_Billy_Herrington]

16 minutes ago, PhantomSailor said:

12,16 km sea concealment compared to 13,72 km.. quite a difference though.

So much for ''good concealment', tovarish

[PhantomSailor]

23 minutes ago, USS_Billy_Herrington said:

So much for ''good concealment', tovarish

Compared to other T8 BBs yes.

[WascallyWabbit]

23 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

Balance changes can be nerfing, but also buffing.

Btw your example of smartfone is a different thing, as your phone is not competing with others in daily basis in some kind of arena, where nobody should have clear advantage coming from the item itself.

You use that phone only for your needs, only competition you can have with this is comparing with your friends, who has the better one (or joining a competition which I saw in Finland - throwing a phone to a distance). But ownership of your phone absolutely doesn't influence anyone else.

Your policy is to create a problem so you can sell the solution to the player base. That's why the meta constantly changes, Currently the CV is strong, so you sell lots of CV's and as planes are so powerful you add in a lot of hybrids bringing more planes to the game. Soon and i'm happy to be quoted on this in the near future. You will introduce real strong AA ships or ships with fighters that work most of the time (fighters...there's an easy fix that could balance the game in a positive way, but will that get fixed...absolutely not). Then subs will come and make a mess of the current meta and you will then sell anti submarine ships, to counter the problem. Balance is just one more marketing tool, you use balance not only to adjust the game meta but to kill popular ships or ship classes and so make players think they need the next OP ship. 

 

WoT and WoW's are probably the most unbalanced games i have ever played. Scratch that, as i typed that i could not think of any other game so badly balanced or that changes the meta so often. This is not about balance it's about creating imbalance so you can sell the solution to the "problem".

 

I stopped whaling after the Xmas crate ripoff on my main, i have 148 premium ships of the 180 currently out there (that shows you how many premiums WG have already dumped in the game since xmas) as i had everything except a few tier 2 and 3 ships. As i look down the list in the captain's log book i see the vast majority of these ships are less effective than the day they were purchased and many no longer match in any way shape or form the marketing speel the day they were sold. For example the Hood, marketed with excellent AA and AA rockets. Today it's a below average ship with laughable ineffective AA and it's rocket gimmick which it was marketed on totally removed. My personal feeling is 20% of balance changes are a genuine attempt to balance the game whereas the other 80% is to unbalance the game to keep people buying the next shiny ship that competes well in the current meta. Only to see it nerfed sooner rather than later either through individual changes or global changes. Premium ships should be sold as seen and only affected by global changes in my view.

 

Either there is a lack of management or a lack of dev ability at WG when balancing the game or the constant imbalance and meta changes are a deliberate policy aimed at creating a problem to sell the player base the solution.

 

Which is it? 

 

 

[Benser33]

19 hours ago, PhantomSailor said:

It's a Massa dispersion.. it's f'ing horrible, if that is called Battlecruiser dispersion in your eyes... you clearly haven't played much!

It has battlecruiser dispersion, which can be proven pretty easily.

 

BC dispersion is 48m + (8.4m * range).

So, at Borodinos max range we would be calculating 48+(8.4*19.57) = 212.388

And her dispersion is...

Which is better than the 260-270m dispersion that most regular BBs have at such a range.

 

If she feels inaccurate it is probably because she only fires 6 shells every 30 seconds.

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

On 7/23/2021 at 2:06 PM, Hanse77SWE said:

Saying that premium never ever should change just leads to the same problem that we had with Missouri, Belfast, Nikolai, Kutuzov, Kamikaze and so on. The ship has to be removed from sale but still be in the game making it a nightmare to balance.

Especially noteable is the audacity to remove these ships because "balans", but then throw some of them at the whales who are stupid enough to cash into those dumb scamboxes. There were players who paid like 1000 € just to get some of those rare premiums.

[1MajorKoenig]

2 minutes ago, Von_Pruss said:

but then throw some of them at the whales who are stupid enough to cash into those dumb scamboxes.

You answered your own question. As long as there are stupid mice there will be mouse traps 

[thomasmalcow]

Hello,

i was supposed to buy Borodino because i tought that with extra mision for 200% exp for month is good. I bought Constelation with that mision and everything was good untill i noticed today that mision disapeared after 2 weeks and not after 30 days.

 

Now i dont knowi if it was some mystake or something i dont know.

 

If it is scam geting 14 days mision instead of 30 days, i would not buy it again!

[xxHELIOS]

Borodino is quite fun and balanced, she has strengh and wickness, maybe you could reduce a little bit the reload time 31—> 28 sec for only 6 guns will be more fair because dispersion is trollish.

 

Except of that i find her more enjoyable than Constellation for example, especially due to Colorado’s poor guns effectivness when downtiered.

[Hanse77SWE]

8 hours ago, thomasmalcow said:

Hello,

i was supposed to buy Borodino because i tought that with extra mision for 200% exp for month is good. I bought Constelation with that mision and everything was good untill i noticed today that mision disapeared after 2 weeks and not after 30 days.

 

Now i dont knowi if it was some mystake or something i dont know.

 

If it is scam geting 14 days mision instead of 30 days, i would not buy it again!

The mission is still there. Play the ship and it will show again.

[thomasmalcow]

Hello,

 

do not know how it happend. I played Random batl with Constelation and got the bonus. After that battle mision appeared back.

 

All seem alright now, it just sometimes not shoving in the misoons

[YabbaCoe]

20 hours ago, thomasmalcow said:

Hello,

 

do not know how it happend. I played Random batl with Constelation and got the bonus. After that battle mision appeared back.

 

All seem alright now, it just sometimes not shoving in the misoons

I can confirm, that it is still counting, even when the mission is not visible in Combat missions:

I just made quick battle to test that

 

Game interface is showing me, that this mission for Constelation will be there for 6 days.

[thomasmalcow]

thats well that i didnt losed any xp 200% bonus. When you cant use cupon in the first 2 weeks period, misions are for me deciding factors. :)