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The return and economic nerf of Missouri.

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1 minute ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

But... but... how can this be? I thought WG has repeatedly pulled a ship because it was 'too popular'... :Smile_amazed:

Somers ????? i never see a somers in game 

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1 ora fa, YabbaCoe ha scritto:

2) Probably yes, but so far there is still no published information about for how long this ship will be available for purchase. In those boxes, there will be simply Missouri, but without the special mission.

I'm totally hyped for Missouri. If i wanna get her for free, how can i get it? Will be there containers for that? And premium containers with a higher chance of having the ship inside? And, does a premium container (i know, newbie question) have higher chance to have a ship than a standard one?

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1 hour ago, Panocek said:

Bonus points for New Jersey making ripples in Azur Lane recently, so she can be monetized once more with weeb flavor:cap_tea:

 

I wonder why ...

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4 minutes ago, arquata2019 said:

I'm totally hyped for Missouri. If i wanna get her for free, how can i get it? Will be there containers for that? And premium containers with a higher chance of having the ship inside? And, does a premium container (i know, newbie question) have higher chance to have a ship than a standard one?

What he meant from boxes is the satan boxes. If you purchase those you may get  Missouri. That "may" could be 0,00001% chance, so don't hold your hopes high.

The main purpose of WG bringing  nerfed Missouri back is to make money, do you really think they will give it away for free? :cap_haloween:

On the other hand, play rank, earn and save doubloons and buy the boxes with them. This way, if you spend all the doubloons earned on 5 satan boxes, and if you get to be one of the luckiest persons in the world, you may technically get Missouri for free :Smile_great:

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20 minutes ago, arquata2019 said:

If i wanna get her for free, how can i get it?

For free?

You do realise this is WG?

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4th most played BB on EU-server, I call this [edited]. How would the even know if people play this "more than they planned"? Even the beloved Izumo is getting played more.

They should create a new version like previously mentioned and sell that one.  This is going out of hand, I hear alot of players saying this might be the final straw.

 

First column is battles played - win rate - damage etc

Iowa U.S.A. 7 893 596 48.30 % 0.65 60 764 1 388 2.52 1.12

Friedrich der Grosse Germany 7 831 306 48.20 % 0.59 56 165 1 334 1.76 0.94

Izumo Japan 5 278 842 48.18 % 0.62 60 627 1 447 1.46 1.03

Missouri U.S.A. 4 546 985 53.57 % 0.82 69 741 1 694 2.69 1.39

Jean Bart France 4 316 853 52.25 % 0.90 82 396 1 756 3.23 1.48

Musashi Japan 4 185 235 53.83 % 0.89 86 878 1 690 1.06 1.73

Alsace France 3 675 701 50.69 % 0.78 70 241 1 517 2.23 1.30

Georgia U.S.A. 3 047 944 52.44 % 0.88 77 474 1 642 3.00 1.42

Lion U.K. 2 336 551 50.02 % 0.67 72 266 1 512 1.88 1.37

Sovetsky Soyuz U.S.S.R. 1 959 895 51.16 % 0.79 69 894 1 637 2.20 1.33

 

From Wows Numbers site.

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NO, NO CHANGE TO MISSOURI.

 

Do like with FRIESLAND, launch a sister ship , and if you like to sell MISSOURIS, do it like a new ship, call actual MISSOURI for example MISSOURI "A"  and sell the new one like MISSOURI or viceversa.

 

But a big NO to change actual MISSOURI and adding a "mission"

 

 

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With my cynical mind I have had one thought, those of us who have Missouri’s should keep some screen shots to show how much credits they got because one thing is certain people will accuse WG of nurfing the credit income of the old Missouri even when factoring in the new mission aspect. 

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5 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said:

With my cynical mind I have had one thought, those of us who have Missouri’s should keep some screen shots to show how much credits they got because one thing is certain people will accuse WG of nurfing the credit income of the old Missouri even when factoring in the new mission aspect. 

play some games now - then after the patch, would be a more direct comparison

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Its quite obvious whats happening here. They are trying to drain the economy of credits.

I believe that this is more a 'credit balance pass' concept than anything else. Because this is so negative for the player base, they are going to do it  in parts. The flag removal for achievements was the most recent step, this Missouri *totally-not-a-nerf* slap in the face is the next.

 

All I can say is lay back and watch your credit balance go down faster and faster over the next few patches - that way, you might want to spend more $doubloons$ to get your stuff and/or more credits.

 

its amazing at just how breakneck wedgies speed is in digging their own grave. The subs, the credit draining scheme, refusing to fix carriers .... its all coming to a head, more sooner than later.

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Bringing the credit earnings for 'new' MOs in line with existing T9 premiums seems eminently reasonable.

 

On paper, the missions to enable existing owners to keep earning the same - on average - credits also seems similarly reasonable, but:

  • How much faith do we have that WG won't make a 'mistake' and 'accidentally' remove this mission at a later date?
  • The crucial words are 'on average' - do we trust WG to get that right too?

Personally, I agree with the suggestion of making a MO clone (call it MO 1945 or something), and giving that 'standard' credit earnings, whilst leaving existing MOs alone. We know clones of things basically work (I have close to a dozen of various sorts in port), whereas this mission business has - IMO - far too much scope for going wrong.

Full disclosure: I own the original MO, but rarely play her outside of snowflakes etc. and usually do those in Coop. If I ever have the patience to get good in BBs, I might be more excitable about this, but as it is - not too bothered, beyond the principles of the thing.

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TBH I cant understand why they are taking this path...

 

There are 4 Iowas, why not use them all...

 

Iowa - T9 techtree

Missouri - T9 premium (leave it as she is)

Wisconsin - T9 new premium with reduced income, WG can make her C/P Missu if they want to

New Jersey - make her a T10 maybe even give her normal non SHS shells with better drag and little less damage but better speed and accuracy, something like Slava

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5 hours ago, Ubertron_X said:

Though in principle I like this idea and line of reasoning, however I don't think this is a) easily executed and b) will not work out as the original ships proper multiplier would, simply because I think that is is very hard to determine what "on average, earn the same number of Credits as before" means and how it relates to all the additional camo and flags you can add.

This. Taking away what makes that ship that ship is.......just another "genius level" move. " We want to make da moneyz but we don't want to upset the owners so....". zero creativity at its best. How about Wisconsin, or New jersey instead??

Oh my.......hello "Maredraco"...

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1 minute ago, Yedwy said:

TBH I cant understand why they are taking this path...

 

There are 4 Iowas, why not use them all...

 

Iowa - T9 techtree

Missouri - T9 premium (leave it as she is)

Wisconsin - T9 new premium with reduced income, WG can make her C/P Missu if they want to

New Jersey - make her a T10 maybe even give her normal non SHS shells with better drag and little less damage but better speed and accuracy, something like Slava

You beat me by some seconds :)

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1 minute ago, Verblonde said:

whereas this mission business has - IMO - far too much scope for going wrong.

thats the point - its not unprecedented that missions bug out, dont complete for no reason etc .... it would be much easier to create a clone and keep the old credit modifier but, as i elaborated a few posts ago - its all part of the plan

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8 hours ago, BoxOfAngryBees said:

play some games now - then after the patch, would be a more direct comparison

 

My bad yes that's what I meant, if a few people play some games before the changes and keep the screen shots they will be useful for comparison

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I guarantee you that this "additional mission" will be deleted within a year. Just like the "we only added the year end for the Unique Updates because IT reasons. The missions will stay, pinky promise."

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40 minutes ago, WWDragon said:

 

I wonder why ...

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Assets and booba in Azur Lane is, just like WG screwups, expected at this point so no, you haven't made any ground breaking discoveries here.

But reasons why she made ripples, is her excellent in game performance, somewhat expected of an Ultra Rare.

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Just now, Humorpalanta said:

I guarantee you that this "additional mission" will be deleted within a year. Just like the "we only added the year end for the Unique Updates because IT reasons. The missions will stay, pinky promise."

yeah, what he said (was thinking of this but forgot to add to my post in the end xD )

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5 minutes ago, Humorpalanta said:

I guarantee you that this "additional mission" will be deleted within a year. Just like the "we only added the year end for the Unique Updates because IT reasons. The missions will stay, pinky promise."

Whatever WG promises to the player base is a lie, that's for sure.

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1 minute ago, Aragathor said:

Whatever WG promises to the player base is a lie, that's for sure.

ofcourse they do that they do this the make the first half of playerbase disturbed  and then within a year the mission is gone and the other half will be mad  thats how WG does it 

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13 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

TBH I cant understand why they are taking this path...

 

There are 4 Iowas, why not use them all...

 

Iowa - T9 techtree

Missouri - T9 premium (leave it as she is)

Wisconsin - T9 new premium with reduced income, WG can make her C/P Missu if they want to

New Jersey - make her a T10 maybe even give her normal non SHS shells with better drag and little less damage but better speed and accuracy, something like Slava

Your idea is eminently sensible; I suspect the details of this move are aimed at one particular market (graphic tweaked to bring wholesomeness to the seething morass that is this forum, and to avoid me getting banned until doomsday), and that market wants MO, because she's the ship the world surrendered to:

 

 

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38 minutes ago, 159Hunter said:

For free?

You do realise this is WG?

 

Nothing's free (certainly not Puerto Rico...) WG even makes us pay for the shaft. :cap_hmm:

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Not to mention that people will say ey the older missouri was for free EXP  and now i need to pay for it and i dont get the same thing .... 

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2 hours ago, Yedwy said:

Yeah sure sure m8

Its classic WG cloak and dagger BS. Of course, they have the information and of course this will be a nerf to old Missouri, they just don't want to tell the player base that they ... yet again scr33w us over.

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