[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,918 battles Report post #26 Posted July 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: How can you be so sure, that it will be a massive nerf? You have the data how much the base credit income of Missouri is different to other tier IX premium BBs and how much this mission will give? If the mission bonus would be THAT high, that it would not be a nerf when using camos and signals, you would also hand out A LOT more credits when people are not using camos or signals. Sorry, but I highly doubt that WG will do that. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #27 Posted July 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: How can you be so sure, that it will be a massive nerf? You have the data how much the base credit income of Missouri is different to other tier IX premium BBs and how much this mission will give? Because WG will WG. 4 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PARAZ] DasTongle Players 1,638 posts 15,421 battles Report post #28 Posted July 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: How can you be so sure, that it will be a massive nerf? You have the data how much the base credit income of Missouri is different to other tier IX premium BBs and how much this mission will give? Mathmatics? even if you add 25% more on it in the last multiplier the base value isn't the same as it was and even if it is on average it means that you curb both sides of the equation. Basically it is another flag attached, and that is less. 3 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: If the mission bonus would be THAT high, that it would not be a nerf compared to the income camos and signals before, you would also hand out A LOT more credits when people are not using camos or signals. Sorry, but I highly doubt that you will be doing that. Indeed. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #29 Posted July 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: How can you be so sure, that it will be a massive nerf? You have the data how much the base credit income of Missouri is different to other tier IX premium BBs and how much this mission will give? Because of how it was worded in YOUR companies devblog. So as it stands now you are nerfing a very old premium ship. Helmuth's idea is way easier. Convert into another version without mission. Or even easier, sell a black version with the reduced earnings ( and give ppl acces to a non black camo) 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,484 battles Report post #30 Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, gopher31 said: I should add that current owners will still receive additional credits due to a permanent combat mission. On balance it looks like a good move. I just hate playing the ship, it’s guns alway troll me. And then the mission will "bug out" after few patches and that will be an unfixable bug 7 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PARAZ] DasTongle Players 1,638 posts 15,421 battles Report post #31 Posted July 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Yedwy said: And then the mission will "bug out" after few patches and that will be an unfixable bug I hate to be cynical on it but i had the same thought. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,213 battles Report post #32 Posted July 21, 2021 So WG decided to as always be customer unfriendly and plays dumb when called out. This game deserves better people to work on it. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misschieter Players 24 posts 9,241 battles Report post #33 Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, invicta2012 said: It's still a good ship. It will still make lots of credits compared to other Tier Premiums. Seems like a good deal, to me, making it available like this, and the extra mission is fair to players who already have the Missouri. No as the posts states it will earn the same as the same tier premiums that woud mean if you want money grabbers now ull have to go foe the roma beer can Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] MrWastee Players 4,255 posts 33,550 battles Report post #34 Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, invicta2012 said: [...] and the extra mission is fair to players who already have the Missouri. well, actually it's not. the mission is just a foul move to hold up the "increased earnings" label. while, essentially, simply nerfing its earning potential within the economy they did set up themselves. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #35 Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, gopher31 said: I should add that current owners will still receive additional credits due to a permanent combat mission. On balance it looks like a good move. Question is if this will work with all economical and special signals and 50%$%% camouflages by boosting basic income or just add some extra? Never mind, I should have read party line propaganda before posting. So now you are finally directly nerfing even old premiums? You couldn't stand all those potential lost money on shipload of credits, could you peegee? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S_W] N00Boo7 Players 398 posts 33,544 battles Report post #36 Posted July 21, 2021 Nvm Missouri..WHERE IS BLACK?!. will come for coal they say...then, oh, too many ships with radar they say...they didnt say nothing for Missouri who- what do u know-has a radar..ok, dont bring Black...make ultimate crocodile camo for other ships then! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,213 battles Report post #37 Posted July 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, DariusJacek said: Question is if this will work with all economical and special signals and 50%$%% camouflages by boosting basic income or just add some extra? As long as it is not part of the base silver income it will only add a small amount on top. What makes Missouri earn good credits now is the fact it has an increased base income. So WG is just straight up nerfing the income and already lying about it. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMD] Spartan_93 [NMD] Beta Tester 1,137 posts 7,227 battles Report post #38 Posted July 21, 2021 37 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: How can you be so sure, that it will be a massive nerf? You have the data how much the base credit income of Missouri is different to other tier IX premium BBs and how much this mission will give? Then answer this question pls: How much bonus credits will the mission give? If you give us this information, we can judge the change. But if you hold it back, we have to take it as a nerf. If it is not a nerf, you have no reason to hold that information back. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] YabbaCoe WG Staff, WG Staff, WG Staff 10,676 posts 5,440 battles Report post #39 Posted July 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Spartan_93 said: Then answer this question pls: How much bonus credits will the mission give? If you give us this information, we can judge the change. But if you hold it back, we have to take it as a nerf. If it is not a nerf, you have no reason to hold that information back. I don't know this information yet, but I will try to ask if I can fetch some information about this in advance 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetius85 Players 1,299 posts 18,700 battles Report post #40 Posted July 21, 2021 Totally agree, as a not Missouri owner, to create a new ship (ex. Missouri B), with "standard" t9 multiplier, and not modify the old one. 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] AndyHill Weekend Tester 1,433 posts Report post #41 Posted July 21, 2021 Place your bets, gentlemen. On average, after the changes and with the mission income applied, Missouri will make... 1) less credits than before. 2) much less credits than before. 3) a loss. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #42 Posted July 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, Spartan_93 said: Then answer this question pls: How much bonus credits will the mission give? If you give us this information, we can judge the change. But if you hold it back, we have to take it as a nerf. If it is not a nerf, you have no reason to hold that information back. They do not know yet, still trying to figure out the lowest possible number that we will accept. Disgusting. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BASIC] koliber_1984 Players 1,113 posts 27,740 battles Report post #43 Posted July 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Aetius85 said: Totally agree, as a not Missouri owner, to create a new ship (ex. Missouri B), with "standard" t9 multiplier, and not modify the old one. I like this idea. Why my Missouri should sail around the new, pleb ones???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #44 Posted July 21, 2021 Haia gents, here is my 2c on this missy thing, as others stated make a copy paste of the ship, name it A'la Virginia, Missoury 1945 and done, or you know, add New Jersey. Wg made so many copy pastas i dont see why not for this. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misschieter Players 24 posts 9,241 battles Report post #45 Posted July 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: I don't know this information yet, but I will try to ask if I can fetch some information about this in advance We will wait In the meanwhile coud you answer a few questions that i have 1) Why woud you do this lower the economics of this ship its a great selling point ( now we all can just take our iowa into battle and say heck yea this is a missouri to) 2) is this ship going to be in there for a limited time? so yes will it be in the christmas boxer or whatever with the normal higher economics ? . 3) if you keep it back cant u just aswell just bring all the ships back into the game aka JB Smolensk Somers etc etc 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] AndyHill Weekend Tester 1,433 posts Report post #46 Posted July 21, 2021 Name it "Missouri BB-63" or "Mighty Mo" and you're done. No need for all the complexity. Unless reducing the amount of credits the few remaining Missouri owners get is considered a big deal - and I can't see that being a very important consideration even to WG. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RDNT] ZeuSueZ1337 Players 434 posts Report post #47 Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Sooo.....participating (and completing the tasks?) in 4+ PT-updates during the autumn and one can get Mighty Mo with the use of a doubloon coupon? I'll take it. (but the fuss concerning the reduced credit mechanics I cannot be bothered bout' -- why dont just add it like a "black"-version and keep the original version intact? Seems pretty weird, even from a WG-perspective, that it's THAT important to reduce a minority of Missouri owners ability to grind....credits) Edited July 21, 2021 by ZeuSueZ1337 Added remarks 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] YabbaCoe WG Staff, WG Staff, WG Staff 10,676 posts 5,440 battles Report post #48 Posted July 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, CrazyGuyB27 said: We will wait In the meanwhile coud you answer a few questions that i have 1) Why woud you do this lower the economics of this ship its a great selling point ( now we all can just take our iowa into battle and say heck yea this is a missouri to) 2) is this ship going to be in there for a limited time? so yes will it be in the christmas boxer or whatever with the normal higher economics ? . 3) if you keep it back cant u just aswell just bring all the ships back into the game aka JB Smolensk Somers etc etc 1) As the economics of Missouri as the first tier IX ship was simply set wrong, so after this change, she will be in line with other tier IX premium BBs 2) Probably yes, but so far there is still no published information about for how long this ship will be available for purchase. In those boxes, there will be simply Missouri, but without the special mission. 3) Maybe in future. The reason of Smolensk of JB removal were because of their overpopulation in battles. Simply due to their battle performance there were plenty battles with more of those ships per team, all the time. And we would like to have variety of ships in the battles, not 5 Smolensks per team etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,484 battles Report post #49 Posted July 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: I don't know this information yet, but I will try to ask if I can fetch some information about this in advance Yeah sure sure m8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Kenjiro_ [THESO] Players 991 posts 12,433 battles Report post #50 Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: Still, gotta love 1 800 000 credits in a loss Afaik credit gain is the same for win/loss. You only get XP bonus for win... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
