This is beyond ridiculous and not even fun

[GarrusBrutus]

Meanwhile OP is on a steady +-60% solo winrate....  

[SV_Kompresor]

1 minute ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Meanwhile OP is on a steady +-60% solo winrate....  

He just got good teams.

[Nibenay78]

3 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Meanwhile OP is on a steady +-60% solo winrate....  

Not just steady, but his most recent games are over his average. Meaning pretty good increase.

 

Clearly unfair though and WG hates his guts.

 

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

11 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

And I have proof for the last 53 games

You have a 59% solo WR and a 2151 PR. You are close to being a unicum solo player, which is a top percentage that most players will never achieve and all that after 8k games. Now you are having a bad streak. Horribly lose 50 games, play 100 games with mediocre results, completely dominate the next 30... This is how it goes and bad luck strikes everyone. Before my last 122 games with a 57% solo WR I had around 50+ HORRIBLE games where I reached one flanked, team on the other side of the map basically got evaporated, then instantly I could turn around, fight for a couple of minutes and then face the loss. It felt like automated, programmed bad luck. But when you win such dominant streaks against other players, you take it for granted mostly and feel powered-up. Players take wins for granted, but not losses. You are good enough. Take a break when you lose, do not play more than 3 lost games. If you become aggressive, you will make more and more mistakes, insult your team, get reported, it all gets worse. Just let it be and login in a couple of days to try again.

[Jaki_AJK]

7 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Meanwhile OP is on a steady +-60% solo winrate....  

 

6 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said:

He just got good teams.

 

5 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

Not just steady, but his most recent games are over his average. Meaning pretty good increase.

 

Clearly unfair though and WG hates his guts.

 

you guys are completely side tracked. I have good wr because I play good and carried my team. In Spite of me being so good, my teammates are always worse. only in 11 matches out of recorded 53, did my team had overall wr higher than enemy. Rest all 42 games, enemy had better stats. just because I carried some games, i managed to get good wr. never did my team carry me. so im just saying that im incredibly unlucky with mm. 

[Nibenay78]

2 hours ago, Jaki_AJK said:

....I don't know how to get good team MM. Someone is rigging my MM for sure....

 

1 hour ago, Jaki_AJK said:

It is. I don't spend much money on their products. Also, I'm a bit of a salty guy in game chat. i remember having 19/20 wins in a session where I just bought a ship from shop(kaga). Aerroon says it's confirmation bais, but I doubt it... my friends who spend bit of money on game get good MM as evident by their MM.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

so im just saying that im incredibly unlucky with mm. 

 

If you just said that, we would probably just ignore you because you were whining to let out frustration.

but you're not saying you are "just incredibly unlucky" 

[Jaki_AJK]

Just now, Nibenay78 said:

 

 

 

If you just said that, we would probably just ignore you because you were whining to let out frustration.

but you're not saying you are "just incredibly unlucky" 

Well, I agree that i'm unlucky in general, I even tried to argue against myself by factoring in my purchase from premium shop. I just looked at it as a possible reason, but nope, its not the case as many said. only confirmation bais. but me unlucky is surely a thing i and others agree upon

[ThePurpleSmurf]

1 hour ago, Jaki_AJK said:

I don't like depending on others. But I help others when they need. I don't want others to have me as a liability

I'm a solo player myself with very little div experience. Why i don't like divs is pretty much a similar mindset as you have of "don't wanna be forced to play in a way i don't want to play" (e.g. as a DD, now you have to scout only for your div and smoke your div mates, can't go rogue and do some risky play) and things like this. On the other hand, the few div games i played we agreed to not go tryhard, not going for the perfect setup, not a pocket smoker and scouter and so on. The divisions were solely for the purpose to have at least 1 or 2 other capable players on the team to make the carry easier for myself or them.

Maybe that's what you should look for too. Decent players you can team up with without going tryhard and blame each other if things don't work out.

[SV_Kompresor]

6 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

 

 

you guys are completely side tracked. I have good wr because I play good and carried my team. In Spite of me being so good, my teammates are always worse. only in 11 matches out of recorded 53, did my team had overall wr higher than enemy. Rest all 42 games, enemy had better stats. just because I carried some games, i managed to get good wr. never did my team carry me. so im just saying that im incredibly unlucky with mm. 

That is how it is for most good players though. They are the deciding factor. They are the ones balancing their team.

Like I said. Stop pretending to be humble and find a casual div mate (preferably one very slightly worse than you so you can't say they handed you the win on a silver platter) and many of your troubles will be gone. I'm serious. Try it.

[GarrusBrutus]

1 minute ago, Jaki_AJK said:

you guys are completely side tracked. I have good wr because I play good and carried my team. In Spite of me being so good, my teammates are always worse. only in 11 matches out of recorded 53, did my team had overall wr higher than enemy. Rest all 42 games, enemy had better stats. just because I carried some games, i managed to get good wr. never did my team carry me. so im just saying that im incredibly unlucky with mm. 

I don't think we're sidetracked at all.

I think you're blinded by your own confirmation bias, especially feeded by installing MMM. Its unreliable and doesn't say anything about peoples performance in that specific match.

The only thing it does is imprinting a biased prediction about the matchoutcome in your head.

You won? You carried the team. You lost? Team was bad.

And besides all of this, I think it is incredibly egocentric to think that WeeGee is on a personal crusade to give you the worst matchmaking ever.

Learn when to quit. Dont push through if you're on a bad streak. As you've stated yourself: You're not the most level-headed gamer out there. So losses probably trigger you quite quickly, resulting in even more losses, etc.etc.

[The_Chiv]

2 hours ago, Jaki_AJK said:

I mean I did it to prove my point, it's not permanent for me obviously.

It really didnt. You looked a small sample size and it confirmed what you felt. This is called confirmation bias. You are however correct. The MM in this game is wonky on a good day. MM uses a PR calculation system to try to balance out the teams, this does not always work out to well and one of the biggest issues that screw with that calculation is DIVs. So like other mentioned yes being in a div helps as in its own way it does tend to have better results.

[Nibenay78]

6 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

I don't think we're sidetracked at all.

I think you're blinded by your own confirmation bias, especially feeded by installing MMM. Its unreliable and doesn't say anything about peoples performance in that specific match.

The only thing it does is imprinting a biased prediction about the matchoutcome in your head.

You won? You carried the team. You lost? Team was bad.

And besides all of this, I think it is incredibly egocentric to think that WeeGee is on a personal crusade to give you the worst matchmaking ever.

Learn when to quit. Dont push through if you're on a bad streak. As you've stated yourself: You're not the most level-headed gamer out there. So losses probably trigger you quite quickly, resulting in even more losses, etc.etc.

This is an issue for most of us I suspect, to various degrees of course.

 

I consider to install MMM mostly to see who I can trust (like will they react if I smoke them or just sail through it), but I so far decided against it, spesifically to avoid any self-fulfilling profecy.

Let assume I end up 1 on 1 with a randomly chosen player. Lets pick @Jaki_AJK. I see he's way better than myself, so I end up chosing to either YOLO and dying or playing too passive and he kills me. Instead of making my best go at him and possibly killing him!

 

I'll keep considering it though since the I-ignore-your-helping-smoke guys are so annoying....

[Puffin_]

When you get the question after game "Are you happy with this game" ore something like that.

Be very careful how you answer.

That is when they decide if you are a candidate for Bad ore Good teams.

If you mark with "I am very happy" You are a candidate for Bad Teams

If you mark "I am next to suicide" They put you in Good teams because they do not wont to loose a paying customer.

 

 

And the earth is flat

[YabbaCoe]

1 hour ago, Northern_Nightowl said:

Yabba, could you clarify to me what kind of game mechanic exactly is randomised? Because: true randomness for two events happening with equal probability, like a perfect coin flip, does actually lead to a 50-50 repartition of the results in the long term.

Going by your statement, if two identical ships are in queue, then they are evenly distributed on the two teams and there's no consideration which players are already sorted in.

But this ain't true mathematical randomness, as eg. the time of day and behavioural patterns of ship preferences (BB liked, CV disliked, some lines favoured over others...) will allow some reasonable predictions.

Do I understand it correctly that some unpredictability in teams stems from the impossibility to know beforehand which ships will be in queue for battle and randomness (which quality, actually? Are you using a cryptographical robust RNG?) is only used for determining the actual team of any competitor?

 

Curious, Nightowl

I used the identical ships just to show, that MM doesn't care about player's stats and only cares about ships. 

The distribution of ships per team, considering how many of which class will be per team is dependant on how many and which ships are in the queue. So actually it can happen, that one team can have two Shimakazes, while the enemy has for example two Hallands. MM is considering class of the ship with set limits of numbers per team and also tier of those ships, also considering the rule, that you can be maximum of 40% of the last 30 battles as -2 tier. 

[surfer_gr]

just play if you can carry oks if you accomplish a mission in an event is fine also solo or not i dont care thats from someone with almost 30k solo battles LOL . If you think you seen it all well trust me you havent i see so many weird game plays every other day  !!!!! weird MMs (2shimas one gearing one side vs 2 khabas and a kleber on the other side )also how many times you think i seen more than 50% of my team to have average wr of below 42% and total number of battles below 400 in a tier10 battle you dont know either !!! so expect the unexpected ,,,,, and try to finish the task at hand if you cant win :) .So that you 10 mins or 20 mins in battle was not totally wasted:P

[Pandafaust]

1 hour ago, GarrusBrutus said:

 

And besides all of this, I think it is incredibly egocentric to think that WeeGee is on a personal crusade to give you the worst matchmaking ever.

 

Clearly it's just an incredibly personal and biased employee at WG who has rewritten the game's code purely to annoy Jaki, who by his own admission must be the greatest WOWS player of all time. After all, he's placed with terrible teammates 80% of the time, and yet even with them he's still able to carry the game to a 60% winrate.  It's only his sheer magnanimity that stops him from participating in clan battles or divs, which would clearly be boosting him up to around a 90% winrate.  Definitely not just confirmation bias and a tiny sample size, it's as clear as day that the only possible explanation is a massive personal vendetta against him alone.

 

Meanwhile, those other 11 sub-average players that are specially-reserved by WG to get teamed up with him in 80% of cases must be delighted to have their stats pumped in such a fashion.

[MrWastee]

3 hours ago, Jaki_AJK said:

I mean when playing in division, I don't want my div mates to spoon feed me.. like being a spotter, smoke help etc. That's just being self centric and not letting others have fun. I want people to play their own game and not for others sake. Also, I don't want others to do something just for me. It's not my nature.

.... some div mates sometimes might would want me to take coherent picks.... being asked myself i mostly just say like "anything, idc"....

 

i helped to win matches, while being nicely asked on voice, what the heck i might do there ... i dunno 'bout too many other clans or players. i do know that i love my clan for the simple fact, that for us mostly it is about the people. we're all halfway good players, so why babysit each other or go mental?! ofc we coordinate, but if in randoms someone sees his opportunity, in the end it's him playing his ship!

and about most people i roll with i do know, i can trust them in regard of being able to play their ships. besides all the eff ups, which in the end even out between divmates over time. thus, i rather have one of them on the other side of the map, than any random bob anytime!

in other words: playing for the win not necessarily means to glue to each other anyway.

.... + it's just too hilarious to scare divmates with crossing map at start on asashio lol.... and come out top xp on a win, while collecting the salt right on voice all match @MacArthur92

 

woatever: in the end, without my clanmates, i'd be long gone most probably! sheetload of fun, and that of the good type lol. not the pHuN farming of people u did describe.

[Jaki_AJK]

6 hours ago, Pandafaust said:

who by his own admission must be the greatest WOWS player of all time

own admission LOL. yeah, ive mentioned several time that im GOAT. thank you for pointing that out *edited* guy

 

Insult removed.

Arty_McFly

[Jaki_AJK]

9 minutes ago, Pandafaust said:

It's only his sheer magnanimity that stops him from participating in clan battles or divs, which would clearly be boosting him up to around a 90% winrate

yeah, it is my magnanimity that is stopping me. truly u r so special that u r able to conclude everything on ur own 

[Pandafaust]

36 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

yeah, it is my magnanimity that is stopping me. truly u r so special that u r able to conclude everything on ur own 

Thanks bud, to receive praise from a transcendental being like yourself is the highest honour I can imagine.

[Srle_Vigilante]

Reality is there are more potatoes then there are good players at any given time in matchmaking. What you're experiencing is what every single person playing this game is experiencing. The game is not rigged, you are not unlucky, and Bill Gates is definitely tracking me after I got vaccinated.

 

The harsh truth is not that the better team wins, its that the team with less potatoes wins. And 1 players just not have enough influence to turn the tide of battle. Unlike a division of 3 excellent players.

 

Now if you really hate your self you would also install XVM and look at that sea of red every game until you go mad.

[Jaki_AJK]

44 minutes ago, Pandafaust said:

Thanks bud, to receive praise from a transcendental being like yourself is the highest honour I can imagine.

u r welcome

[Jaki_AJK]

23 minutes ago, Srle_Vigilante said:

Reality is there are more potatoes then there are good players at any given time in matchmaking. What you're experiencing is what every single person playing this game is experiencing. The game is not rigged, you are not unlucky, and Bill Gates is definitely tracking me after I got vaccinated.

 

The harsh truth is not that the better team wins, its that the team with less potatoes wins. And 1 players just not have enough influence to turn the tide of battle. Unlike a division of 3 excellent players.

 

Now if you really hate your self you would also install XVM and look at that sea of red every game until you go mad.

I mean, i know there are potatoes. but when there r 4 good guys in queue, why not give 2-2 per side. but nope, i always get 0-4. none my side & 4 good other side. happens only to me ngl

[Nibenay78]

9 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

I mean, i know there are potatoes. but when there r 4 good guys in queue, why not give 2-2 per side. but nope, i always get 0-4. none my side & 4 good other side. happens only to me ngl

Because then it would not be random, but rigged ;)

 

Edit: and when you go "wah wah its just happening to me" its called confirmation bias...

[ColonelPete]

The MM must be really bad when you get better results than your average during the last week...

 

I wish I had such bad MM at the moment...