This is beyond ridiculous and not even fun

[Jaki_AJK]

2 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

I have.. maybe not "all the premiums" but when MOST of their list is premium ships, yet they completely stink....

its mind numbing.

Well, I do have a proof. I had 95% wr solo when i bought kaga from premium shop. So u say its just coincidence -_-. No chief, my theory is goddamn right. WG only wants money. Why do u think they run a company? For our fun??

[Nibenay78]

2 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

Yeah, love to have a guy just spoon feeding me. But I can't get people like you as my div mates.. Also, its not my thing to just take help from u all the time

Again, despite spoonfeeding him, his presence allows me to often completely own the area we are in. It's called helping eachothers, or mutual benefit.

I really dont think you are grasping what I am saying.

 

I gain a lot by having him tagging along. its a PLUS to have him there for me. 

[Jaki_AJK]

Just now, Yosha_nai said:

So you think WG calculates the teammates you get specifically so that you mostly lose with your team just to screw you?

what about the 11 other players on your team though? Does that individual calculation applies to them too because they also don't pay? 

 

so that would mean if I was on your team getting punished by WG because I don't pay premium... that means that they put me with you on my team to make me lose right? 

 

do you see the problem with your delusions now? 

Obviously. When I payed, I get good teammates. Other time I get worse. And I'm not saying everyone who didn't pay premium gets into my team. Sometimes even good guys get into my team. But thats a 1:20 chance. All I'm saying is why only me when other dudes too don't have such luxuries.

[Nibenay78]

1 minute ago, Jaki_AJK said:

Well, I do have a proof. I had 95% wr solo when i bought kaga from premium shop. So u say its just coincidence -_-. No chief, my theory is goddamn right. WG only wants money. Why do u think they run a company? For our fun??

A single instance is no proof for anything.

 

WG wants money, we all know that.

[Nibenay78]

1 minute ago, Jaki_AJK said:

Obviously. When I payed, I get good teammates. Other time I get worse. And I'm not saying everyone who didn't pay premium gets into my team. Sometimes even good guys get into my team. But thats a 1:20 chance. All I'm saying is why only me when other dudes too don't have such luxuries.

didn't pay anything for the last 4 years. Yet even yesterday I had 12-0 steamrolls and my winrate has been slowly inching up all the years.

PROOF! etc...

[SV_Kompresor]

3 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

Obviously. When I payed, I get good teammates. Other time I get worse. And I'm not saying everyone who didn't pay premium gets into my team. Sometimes even good guys get into my team. But thats a 1:20 chance. All I'm saying is why only me when other dudes too don't have such luxuries.

So how come I get horrible teams (or at the very least equally bad as the enemy) 70+% of the time? I haven't spent money on this game in a long time now.

[Jaki_AJK]

1 minute ago, Nibenay78 said:

Again, despite spoonfeeding him, his presence allows me to often completely own the area we are in. It's called helping eachothers, or mutual benefit.

I really dont think you are grasping what I am saying.

 

I gain a lot by having him tagging along. its a PLUS to have him there for me. 

Well, with the enemies I get sometimes, even 2 guys won't be enough to stop it. Imagine u smoking me up in my neptune for me in ur kita, and then u need to open water someone for ur damage, u end up dead. later I die too. So either u have to compromise damage or xp

[Jaki_AJK]

2 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

A single instance is no proof for anything.

 

WG wants money, we all know that.

 

1 minute ago, Nibenay78 said:

didn't pay anything for the last 4 years. Yet even yesterday I had 12-0 steamrolls and my winrate has been slowly inching up all the years.

PROOF! etc...

 

1 minute ago, SV_Kompresor said:

So how come I get horrible teams (or at the very least equally bad as the enemy) 70+% of the time? I have't spent money on this game in a long time now.

So if its not spending money, tell me WHY FOR GODS SAKE do i get bad teams like 90% of times. If MM is random as all u guys are saying, then why is it only me? Why dont my clanmates/ twitch streamers get such MM. Always when i watch twitch, they get the guys in hurricane clans. But I never do. So whats ur theory behind this??

[Profilus]

12 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

LOL, u r just exaggerating. I haven't seen anyone with all premiums in game and below 50 no matter how bad they are. Or maybe they are bots in exceptional cases.

I have had 2x more battles than you. You have alot to see yet, most of it wont be pleasant  GL.

[SV_Kompresor]

6 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

then why is it only me?

It's not.

 

6 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

Why dont my clanmates

Cause you're not in a clan (and they do)

 

6 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

twitch streamers get such MM

They do

 

6 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

they get the guys in hurricane clans

They really don't. And even if they did, the rating of a clan is nowhere near as relevant as you think.

 

6 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

So whats ur theory behind this??

My theory? It's that you have an immense confirmation bias.

[Jaki_AJK]

Just now, Profilus said:

I have had 2x more battles than you. You have alot to see yet, most of it wont be pleasant  GL.

Hmmm, I've seen enough bro. 

[Nibenay78]

1 minute ago, Jaki_AJK said:

Well, with the enemies I get sometimes, even 2 guys won't be enough to stop it

If you can't stop it being 2 coordinated people, you're not going to stop it with 2 random people doing their own thing. In a losing battle, we usually can smoke eachother up and keep banging at the enemy to the bitter end, which comes way later than the random people trying this. On the rare occations this means the two coordinated ones will do a good enough job to tip the balance in our teams favour.

 

If its a complete overrun you lose anyways, but proabably both will STILL get more xp and damage.

 

1 minute ago, Jaki_AJK said:

. Imagine u smoking me up in my neptune for me in ur kita, and then u need to open water someone for ur damage, u end up dead. later I die too. So either u have to compromise damage or xp

Why would I do damage if spotting is more effective to win? and winning gives more xp?

 

You also didn't read that i frequently end up MORE OFTEN being top 3 player on the team when he is around, despite babysitting him? 

[Northern_Nightowl]

Vor 40 Minuten, Jaki_AJK sagte:

And I'm not kidding, but out of recent 53 games I played, even though I have 50%+ WR, only 11 out of the 53 games had my overall team wr greater than that of the enemies. [...] If it were random, my team would have higher overall wr in at least 27 games. But no.. There was not a single instance where my team had a player from hurricane clan. But enemy team got such players 15 times out of 53 games. If it were normal, I'd get such players at least 8 times. The odds are just strong to ignore. I don't know whom to ask/ question my bad RNG in MM.

Your statistical sample of roundabout 50 games is really, really small compared to the total amount of games in one day that I assume being at least a 6-digit number. So, it's fully within the realms of normality to have random patterns emerging that puzzles the brain of any human, as our innate way of thinking is exactly to search for patterns and to assume reasons behind them. This is also the way how superstitions are born and propagated, or, as some other person wrote above, a confirmation bias.

 

About divisions: I want to share an experience that I had just yesterday. While I was intensively playing brawls in my MAASS, I landed in a game where the opposing team was build of a 3-person division. The other two people with me, guys from the KITEN clan, were also divisioned (Scharnhorst and Atlanta). Seeing this, I asked through the in-game chat whether we could also coordinate our game play. We won and then they invited me to join them both in their division and Discord voice chat. We had good laughs, nice battles and played the game as it also proposes itself to be played: with teamwork! I think that nobody had the impression of being exploited or only serving as supporter of some selfish guy.

Winning as a team should simply erase any thinking of selfishness and considerations about your result compared to your teammates, as winning should be the goal, or not?

 

Regards, Nightowl

[Nibenay78]

6 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

 So whats ur theory behind this??

Confirmation bias or excessively bad luck.

and like @Northern_Nightowl points out, ~50 games is insignificant.

 

edit: another option is that seeing you have the "worse team", you give up either consciously or unconsciously. I mean you see this even on people without MM monitor that go "omg another LOSE!" (btw it's LOSS!!).

 

Then they either yolo or play too passive...and lose AND come out really poorly on the xp part.

[Jaki_AJK]

1 minute ago, SV_Kompresor said:

It's not.

 

Cause you're not in a clan (and they do)

 

They do

 

My theory? It's that you have an immense confirmation bias.

Yeah well, I left clan few days back. Also, what u say is 20% correct. rest 80%, I'm right. I've seen it all. I don't need a random guy on internet defending WG rigging. I watched triar funk yesterday. He got good clan people on his side 6 times out of 7 games he played. Now I'm watching fathermoore. He is getting guys from good clan go and see. I'm not saying streaming gets u good team. I'm saying even some random guy in WOWs get MM better than me.

[Shaka_D]

@OP - If you start negative from the start or worry too much about winning and stats, then all you're going to be doing is losing. The first thing you need to do is change your mindset....when you go into a game expecting little and not overly worried by the outcome or stats, you will start to relax more and the game becomes more fun. You can't control everything, so only seek to control what you can and look for enjoyment in it.

[Jaki_AJK]

3 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

If you can't stop it being 2 coordinated people, you're not going to stop it with 2 random people doing their own thing. In a losing battle, we usually can smoke eachother up and keep banging at the enemy to the bitter end, which comes way later than the random people trying this. On the rare occations this means the two coordinated ones will do a good enough job to tip the balance in our teams favour.

 

If its a complete overrun you lose anyways, but proabably both will STILL get more xp and damage.

 

Why would I do damage if spotting is more effective to win? and winning gives more xp?

 

You also didn't read that i frequently end up MORE OFTEN being top 3 player on the team when he is around, despite babysitting him? 

Many guys dont have this mindset of winning. All they care is damage and sadly, all my friends are such people

[SV_Kompresor]

Just now, Jaki_AJK said:

I don't need a random guy on internet defending WG rigging

And we've seen enough tinfoil hat wearers to know that you're full of it. Usually they at least attempt to make some sort of sense. You don't.

 

1 minute ago, Jaki_AJK said:

I'm not saying streaming gets u good team. I'm saying even some random guy in WOWs get MM better than me.

And plenty of others get much worse mm than you. Can't have it all I'm affraid.

[Jaki_AJK]

4 minutes ago, Northern_Nightowl said:

Your statistical sample of roundabout 50 games is really, really small compared to the total amount of games in one day that I assume being at least a 6-digit number. So, it's fully within the realms of normality to have random patterns emerging that puzzles the brain of any human, as our innate way of thinking is exactly to search for patterns and to assume reasons behind them. This is also the way how superstitions are born and propagated, or, as some other person wrote above, a confirmation bias.

 

About divisions: I want to share an experience that I had just yesterday. While I was intensively playing brawls in my MAASS, I landed in a game where the opposing team was build of a 3-person division. The other two people with me, guys from the KITEN clan, were also divisioned (Scharnhorst and Atlanta). Seeing this, I asked through the in-game chat whether we could also coordinate our game play. We won and then they invited me to join them both in their division and Discord voice chat. We had good laughs, nice battles and played the game as it also proposes itself to be played: with teamwork! I think that nobody had the impression of being exploited or only serving as supporter of some selfish guy.

Winning as a team should simply erase any thinking of selfishness and considerations about your result compared to your teammates, as winning should be the goal, or not?

 

Regards, Nightowl

Well dude, because I have been having bad teams, I installed MM moniter just to prove u. Right from the days of creating account, I had such bad MM. I used to check individually after the game about MM. So my sample is big enough, but I can show only 50 games cuz i recorded it

[Nibenay78]

1 minute ago, Jaki_AJK said:

Many guys dont have this mindset of winning. All they care is damage and sadly, all my friends are such people

Well then they are playing for damage, not to get xp anyways, which means having them on your team is most likely increasing your chance to lose.

losing gives less xp. Sure there will be such players on the enemy team, but if you div up with your friends - that means YOUR team is guaranteed to have "losing damage farmers" while the enemy team MIGHT get more useful players.

 

In the long run that is more losses for you.

 

How is that WGs fault in any way or capacity? 

[Jaki_AJK]

1 minute ago, SV_Kompresor said:

And we've seen enough tinfoil hat wearers to know that you're full of it. Usually they at least attempt to make some sort of sense. You don't.

 

And plenty of others get much worse mm than you. Can't have it all I'm affraid.

Yeah dude, thanks for ur wise words. I'm speaking from what I've seen. Also, yeah, you dont make any sense for me either. So lets stop here. I wont have anything from u anymore. only when u see the kind of games I have compared to my skill, u'll know what I'm saying. My account is beyond rigged. You don't have such crap on u, so u r loud mouthing.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Your narcissism is impressively out of control 

[Jaki_AJK]

2 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

Well then they are playing for damage, not to get xp anyways, which means having them on your team is most likely increasing your chance to lose.

losing gives less xp. Sure there will be such players on the enemy team, but if you div up with your friends - that means YOUR team is guaranteed to have "losing damage farmers" while the enemy team MIGHT get more useful players.

 

In the long run that is more losses for you.

 

How is that WGs fault in any way or capacity? 

Well, thats why I dont do divisons and play solo. And solo, I'm not a complete damage farmer. I play for win, but WG MM always gives me the worse. Thats what Im saying. Dont take it wrong way

[SV_Kompresor]

2 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

You don't have such crap on u, so u r loud mouthing.

Did you miss the earlier screenshot or something?

 

Not to worry, I got you covered. Here's another example.

[GarrusBrutus]

16 minutes ago, Jaki_AJK said:

If it were random, my team would have higher overall wr in at least 27 games. 

Thats where you are wrong.