Public Test of Update 0.10.7: Round 2

[The_EURL_Guy]

Captains, we invite you to take part in the Public Test of Update 0.10.7—you can earn Community Tokens for your participation!

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[arquata2019_]

9 minuti fa, The_EURL_Guy ha scritto:

Captains, we invite you to take part in the Public Test of Update 0.10.7—you can earn Community Tokens for your participation!

Read it on the portal

Return of Missouri? I don't have enough doubloons... don't tell me it's gonna be released for 16k doubloons :(

[Smeggo]

T8 & TX - submarines. Nice. 

[DarthDon49]

Submarines? One step closer to me selling my profile.

[elite92]

will we be able to test commanders changes(secondary buff) in this public test or we need to wait for part 2?

 

[_Geronimmo_]

"Earn 4,000 XP in Ranked and Co-op Battles playing a Tier VIII submarine. Reward on the Public Test server: a Tier X submarine."  - What and for how long we will have this tier X submarine?

[britinmadrid]

1 hour ago, DarthDon49 said:

Submarines? One step closer to me selling my profile.

Good luck - there will be a good many accounts on the market come submarines!

[YabbaCoe]

1 hour ago, elite92 said:

will we be able to test commanders changes(secondary buff) in this public test or we need to wait for part 2?

 

Those changes to commander skills should be already on First round of 0.10.7 PT.

 

46 minutes ago, _Geronimmo_ said:

"Earn 4,000 XP in Ranked and Co-op Battles playing a Tier VIII submarine. Reward on the Public Test server: a Tier X submarine."  - What and for how long we will have this tier X submarine?

Until the end of 0.10.7 PT, so for both rounds.

 

20 minutes ago, britinmadrid said:

Good luck - there will be a good many accounts on the market come submarines!

There won't... it is not allowed to sell your account.

[koliber_1984]

1 hour ago, _Geronimmo_ said:

"Earn 4,000 XP in Ranked and Co-op Battles playing a Tier VIII submarine. Reward on the Public Test server: a Tier X submarine."  - What and for how long we will have this tier X submarine?

for the duration of the PT, as usual. TX is essential do earn some Community Tokens BTW

[Pikkozoikum]

4 hours ago, DarthDon49 said:

Submarines? One step closer to me selling my profile.

Why though. Submarines did a great part in naval warfare and I like new content :3

[Pikkozoikum]

@YabbaCoe are there no changelogs to the submarines since last test?

[Bear_Bryant_83]

Every time I try to log in to the public test I get a message saying I have to select a REGION ....where do I select a REGION ? I can't find anywhere annotating this option and I have played public tests many times . Any solutions ?

[Pikkozoikum]

9 hours ago, Bear_Bryant_83 said:

Every time I try to log in to the public test I get a message saying I have to select a REGION ....where do I select a REGION ? I can't find anywhere annotating this option and I have played public tests many times . Any solutions ?

What do you mean with login? I think the servers are not up until evening

 

It says for me "Please select a Region and below is a button for Region "PUBLIC TEST""

 

but the servers are down at the moment, I would say

[YabbaCoe]

14 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said:

@YabbaCoe are there no changelogs to the submarines since last test?

It is not directly mentioned, what is the exact changelog, but basically what is written in the article https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/general-news/bulletin-0107/ is their current status. 

I am not sure, what exactly changed there, but I can see, that there is a mention, that they restore diving capacity on surface. 

[DarthDon49]

21 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said:

Why though. Submarines did a great part in naval warfare and I like new content :3

Subs did NOT participate in many battles, they mostly preyed on cargo ships.

p.s. That's what WoWS was supposed to be all about, surface battles, they even stated they would never add subs.

[Pikkozoikum]

6 minutes ago, DarthDon49 said:

Subs did NOT participate in many battles, they mostly preyed on cargo ships.

p.s. That's what WoWS was supposed to be all about, surface battles, they even stated they would never add subs.

1. Submarines sunk many warships

2. Just because their primary purpose was sinking merchant ships, doesn't mean, they were not part of naval warfare. I'm pretty sure many DDs fought them, or how did submarines sunk?

3. It's a game, submarine games always fight warships. Even in "realistic" simulation, you will fight warships. Otherwise it would be boring, if you would only grind merchant ships. I remember some games, where I sunk Carriers and Battleships with submarines, but none, where I only had to fight merchant ships

So, if even more realistic simulation don't get it right, why would expect an arcade-shooter would get it right?

4. If submarines are somehow such a big deal for you, just see them as a slow DD with a special smoke type, they are not that much different on the larger scale

[Anktarktic1]

So we now have two contradicting statements about submarines from Wargaming (not even mentioning the third one of submarines never being in the game):

1) submarines will be first deployed in a SEPARATE mode

2) submarines will be first deployed in ranked and coop mode

both can not be true, so which one is it? if any of them is true at all? how can we even trust anything that WG says?

 

And on the test server there is another hillarious thing: if you play battleship (I tried Fridrich Grosse and Kurfurst) you get the message, that if submarine appears, you should use antisubmarine thingy like depth charge or bombers, but these ships I played have no such thing! But the game tells you to use it! To use something, that doesn't exist on these ships!

 

And another thing: the change of secondaries skill, which would boost the accuracy after 40 seconds or something like that, is much worse than before. Because in coop (which is the only mode people could play, if they want have fun and not suffer, WG basically forces people to play coop only with their decisions to constantly and repeatedly decrease the quality of PvP modes - see millions of complains added every second on that matter in forums) the game is so fast, targets die so fast, that you never achieve that long time to shoot on one target. Battles often last 2-3 minutes there. So if you use this commander skill, you have even worse accuracy than before, because you never reach the maximum time when accuracy is biggest from that skill.

 

The change, that worsens the ability to ctrl+click on ship is being discussed now on Czech forum, so there is a slight chance, that it will be brought back to pre-broken state. But with all these things now active, the quality of gameplay is massively decreasing.

[Pikkozoikum]

12 hours ago, Anktarktic1 said:

both can not be true, so which one is it? if any of them is true at all? how can we even trust anything that WG says?

1) already happend a while ago and now 2)

 

12 hours ago, Anktarktic1 said:

And another thing: the change of secondaries skill, which would boost the accuracy after 40 seconds or something like that, is much worse than before. Because in coop (which is the only mode people could play, if they want have fun and not suffer, WG basically forces people to play coop only with their decisions to constantly and repeatedly decrease the quality of PvP modes - see millions of complains added every second on that matter in forums) the game is so fast, targets die so fast, that you never achieve that long time to shoot on one target. Battles often last 2-3 minutes there. So if you use this commander skill, you have even worse accuracy than before, because you never reach the maximum time when accuracy is biggest from that skill.

After the first shots they are already on the old accuracy, after that they only get better, not sure, if they are really worse

[Pikkozoikum]

Played now a bit T6 and T8 und PTS and my biggest issue with the submarines:

 

 

 

 

Surface and "operating" depth are the attack modes, Periscope is mostly useless, only for fast travelling with better concealment, which is pretty weird design

[DarthDon49]

On 7/22/2021 at 11:32 AM, Pikkozoikum said:

1. Submarines sunk many warships

2. Just because their primary purpose was sinking merchant ships, doesn't mean, they were not part of naval warfare. I'm pretty sure many DDs fought them, or how did submarines sunk?

3. It's a game, submarine games always fight warships. Even in "realistic" simulation, you will fight warships. Otherwise it would be boring, if you would only grind merchant ships. I remember some games, where I sunk Carriers and Battleships with submarines, but none, where I only had to fight merchant ships

So, if even more realistic simulation don't get it right, why would expect an arcade-shooter would get it right?

4. If submarines are somehow such a big deal for you, just see them as a slow DD with a special smoke type, they are not that much different on the larger scale

Good little boy, toe the corporate party line. You obviously don't know your BATTLE history. Very few warships were sunk by subs DURING battles - FACT. Go peddle your nonsense elsewhere.

[Pikkozoikum]

3 hours ago, DarthDon49 said:

Good little boy, toe the corporate party line. You obviously don't know your BATTLE history. Very few warships were sunk by subs DURING battles - FACT. Go peddle your nonsense elsewhere.

As I said, it's game, every game is like that. I'm currently playing War on the Sea and I attack Warships all the time with my subs, even combined with other ships or aircrafts, when around.

There were even irl battles, where the submarines were positioned for ambushing retreating ships.

 

And yes, they were not in formation with battleships obviously, but this is an arcade game... if you expect realism, then you play the wrong game, actually, you won't probably find no game, that will be that realistic.

 

So the "fact" doesn't have any relevance in this game. Otherwise if we regard such facts as a criteria, we will have to rework this game compeltly and remove almost all the ships and content ^^

[hardkur911]

So 1K community token for rank 1 gold is like a hidden reward ?

[WWDragon]

On 7/23/2021 at 6:21 PM, DarthDon49 said:

Good little boy, toe the corporate party line. You obviously don't know your BATTLE history. Very few warships were sunk by subs DURING battles - FACT. Go peddle your nonsense elsewhere.

I am sorry but what do you consider a battle? Something like the battle of Trafalgar? Because even Jutland wasnt ships lining up and exchanging gunfire.

 

Since you brought history up, Taihō was sunk during the Battle of the Philippine Sea (well I would credit the IJN for sinking her but), Shokaku was also sunk during the Battle of the Philippine Sea, Juneau during Guadalcanal (and I am certaining counting this because was first struck by a torpedo from Amatsukaze so here we go, a "proper" battle) and Atago and Maya in the battle of Leyte Gulf.

 

I admit many times I said something I believed was true but was not, however a simple search would show what I pointed and I am sure your definition of "battle" is more of a engagement, especially because it suits your narrative that submarines didnt participate in battles that is of course blatant false, even in Pearl Harbor there was a detachment of midget subs to join in during the attack, in fact the first Japanese prisoner of war was from one of then.

 

[gnist0s]

PTS account zerorised once again - have been there for the last time - PTS deleted.

 

 

[Benden]

Those community tokens nailed the coffin for  my pts participation : less and less rewards for the dozens of Gb written and read on my hard drive  needed for each iteration. And then the abysmal work to achieve the goals.

Where before you could grab some signals and camo doing few battles now you just get 300 tokens