Russian CV hilarity

[illy]

just been in a Tier 4 battle with a Russian CV....seriously are they taking the piss with this thing, 4 torps in a single attack...makes the Hosho before it's nerf look weak komrade....god job WG good [edited]job

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

They didn't nerv the Hosho. They gently borrowed some torps and gifted it to Mother Russia. First thing is you need to make things worse, to make other things look good. People need to be able to point with the finger: Ha, they have it even worse. And then they forget. On top of that: Sharing is caring. Base principle of good old communism.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

The devs will be delighted to hear the new content is joyously received by the community. We do, after all, now have verbal confimation that the devs do read the forums.

[illy]

9 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

The devs will be delighted to hear the new content is joyously received by the community. We do, after all, now have verbal confimation that the devs do read the forums.

just got stuck on some underground scenery as well.....WG winning all the way tonight

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 6 Stunden, illy sagte:

just got stuck on some underground scenery

But this makes you immune to the torp swarm of glorious Soviet CV planes, right? 

[hellhound666]

as ive understood wg/lesta has a problem with low player numbers in ru server and some op fantasy cv's is supposed to help to fix it ... and next we will have subs

[Pikkozoikum]

9 hours ago, illy said:

just been in a Tier 4 battle with a Russian CV....seriously are they taking the piss with this thing, 4 torps in a single attack...makes the Hosho before it's nerf look weak komrade....god job WG good [edited]job

though they are bad in causing perma-floods? ^^

[Camperdown]

32 minutes ago, hellhound666 said:

as ive understood wg/lesta has a problem with low player numbers in ru server and some op fantasy cv's is supposed to help to fix it ... and next we will have subs

Blimey. Low player numbers? Now how can that happen? Mebbe they have been listening to their player base too much? 

[xe_N_on]

Vor 10 Stunden, illy sagte:

just been in a Tier 4 battle with a Russian CV....seriously are they taking the piss with this thing, 4 torps in a single attack...makes the Hosho before it's nerf look weak komrade....god job WG good [edited]job

 

Yeah, but look at the huge disadvantages of those soviet CVs. If you shoot down a plane with your incredible strong AA, their amount of torps can directly be reduced to zero!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, wait, which Tier? T4? never mind.

[triumphgt6]

My Dreadnought will sort them out - no problem!

 

[Varian_Dorn]

So, it seems mr. op here prefers to be repeatedly hit by single torps, thus having multiple chances at floodings, instead of one volley that deals more direct damage but also limits flooding chances to exactly that one attack.

 

Are you guys purposefully whiny and stupid or is this indeed your natural state? (in reference to, in moments like these, overdramatically picking on one aspect you don't like and ignoring other aspects running counter to it) 

 

 

And yes, me and a buddy also laughed out loud about the idea of a whole tree of more russian wet-fantasy stalinium-based ships... but I have to admit, gameplay wise, that is a different approach, reminds me of the all-or-nothing attacks coming from hybrid ships.

[illy]

1 hour ago, Varian_Dorn said:

So, it seems mr. op here prefers to be repeatedly hit by single torps, thus having multiple chances at floodings, instead of one volley that deals more direct damage but also limits flooding chances to exactly that one attack.

 

Are you guys purposefully whiny and stupid or is this indeed your natural state? (in reference to, in moments like these, overdramatically picking on one aspect you don't like and ignoring other aspects running counter to it) 

 

 

And yes, me and a buddy also laughed out loud about the idea of a whole tree of more russian wet-fantasy stalinium-based ships... but I have to admit, gameplay wise, that is a different approach, reminds me of the all-or-nothing attacks coming from hybrid ships.

i'd prefer no CVs to be honest, but at Tier 4 that CV is going to keep attacking you with 4 aircraft every time, some of the ships it will face have zero AA.....and lets be honest about AA it's like a fart in the wind and there to make you feel you're doing something.....you're not, so nice insults (meaningless) look at the tier i mentioned and how it will impact gameplay especially with ships with no or terrible short range AA, have a good day now mate

[triumphgt6]

2 hours ago, Varian_Dorn said:

So, it seems mr. op here prefers to be repeatedly hit by single torps, thus having multiple chances at floodings, instead of one volley that deals more direct damage but also limits flooding chances to exactly that one attack.

 

Are you guys purposefully whiny and stupid or is this indeed your natural state? (in reference to, in moments like these, overdramatically picking on one aspect you don't like and ignoring other aspects running counter to it) 

 

 

And yes, me and a buddy also laughed out loud about the idea of a whole tree of more russian wet-fantasy stalinium-based ships... but I have to admit, gameplay wise, that is a different approach, reminds me of the all-or-nothing attacks coming from hybrid ships.

What it does is reduce further the effect of AA. This change goes against the change from RTS where this was the pattern and was coupled with the reduction in AA power with the explanation that multiple passes would result in more planes being shot down. The Russian ships can drop from outside the range of much of the AA and can therefore suffer less damage as well as releasing a wall of skill each time. I don't recall Russian naval aviation being that powerful. 

[arttuperkunas]

38 minutes ago, triumphgt6 said:

I don't recall Russian naval aviation being that powerful. 

Easily fixable. We have a saying in Finland, “Siperia opettaa”, which more or less means “Siberia is a good teacher”.

[tsounts]

So, according to the spreadsheets everything is working fine! Good to know!

[triumphgt6]

25 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

Easily fixable. We have a saying in Finland, “Siperia opettaa”, which more or less means “Siberia is a good teacher”.

No doubt a memory enhancing experience! 

[Maris_Piper]

Meanwhile Wargambling strive to balance the New Dutch T-8 Aircraft Carrier

[Skyl2aider]

17 hours ago, illy said:

just been in a Tier 4 battle with a Russian CV....seriously are they taking the piss with this thing, 4 torps in a single attack...makes the Hosho before it's nerf look weak komrade....god job WG good [edited]job

It drops only once. The torps do about 3.8k each. Hosho can drop 5 if it drops all 5 drops in succession. even if it gets only 3 hits it gets 17.8 whereas Komsomol would get 15.2 with all 4 torps on target. Add to that that the russian cvs have a slower flight time and hp. I dunno where you get the idea that it makes hosho looks weak except for the subjective impression the alpha can give you, 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

3 hours ago, illy said:

i'd prefer no CVs to be honest, but at Tier 4 that CV is going to keep attacking you with 4 aircraft every time, some of the ships it will face have zero AA.....and lets be honest about AA it's like a fart in the wind and there to make you feel you're doing something.....you're not, so nice insults (meaningless) look at the tier i mentioned and how it will impact gameplay especially with ships with no or terrible short range AA, have a good day now mate

 

They've been watching the Final Countdown a little too often, maybe?

[illy]

1 hour ago, Skyl2aider said:

It drops only once. The torps do about 3.8k each. Hosho can drop 5 if it drops all 5 drops in succession. even if it gets only 3 hits it gets 17.8 whereas Komsomol would get 15.2 with all 4 torps on target. Add to that that the russian cvs have a slower flight time and hp. I dunno where you get the idea that it makes hosho looks weak except for the subjective impression the alpha can give you, 

well it was pretty devastating in the game, the guy playing it agreed it was a bit too good, i see another thread about Russian cvs has sprung up, next subject....subs

[Varian_Dorn]

In any case, it seems rather premature to bring out the torches and pitchforks, as those carriers only recently entered "public" testing. I'm sceptical too when it comes to Wargamings track record regarding especially russian ships - but then again, there sure will be tweaks and tunings before those new ships go live. It remains to be seen how they will fit in once we get to their release event.

[lovelacebeer]

I am trying to keep any open mind with these as WG do often change ship parameters before going live with them but good grief the torp grouping on the Pobeda is evil, you cannot thread the needle with them.

[HassenderZerhacker]

On 7/17/2021 at 4:15 AM, illy said:

just been in a Tier 4 battle with a Russian CV....seriously are they taking the piss with this thing, 4 torps in a single attack...makes the Hosho before it's nerf look weak komrade....god job WG good [edited]job

I'm glad I'm not there to see this

[Nibenay78]

On 7/17/2021 at 12:10 PM, Varian_Dorn said:

So, it seems mr. op here prefers to be repeatedly hit by single torps, thus having multiple chances at floodings, instead of one volley that deals more direct damage but also limits flooding chances to exactly that one attack.

 

Are you guys purposefully whiny and stupid or is this indeed your natural state? (in reference to, in moments like these, overdramatically picking on one aspect you don't like and ignoring other aspects running counter to it) 

 

 

And yes, me and a buddy also laughed out loud about the idea of a whole tree of more russian wet-fantasy stalinium-based ships... but I have to admit, gameplay wise, that is a different approach, reminds me of the all-or-nothing attacks coming from hybrid ships.

It seems mr Dorn here prefers to repeatedly have games where the tactical options relying on stealth or going single to initiate a crossfire situation are being limited massively by some abnormal-cell-growth-disease rather than having more options.

 

I wonder why planes are not part of world of tanks? tanks are on land, airfields are on land, tanks and planes used to have a fair and fun type of engagement...

 

edit: and as other pointed out, all-or-nothing strikes (which I also prefer in general) means AA is even more irrelevant because as mr @Beastofwar points out a million times, it's just there to reduce number of strikes... not to save your sorry behind from anything.

[HassenderZerhacker]

On 7/18/2021 at 9:11 PM, Nibenay78 said:

It seems mr Dorn here prefers to repeatedly have games where the tactical options relying on stealth or going single to initiate a crossfire situation are being limited massively by some abnormal-cell-growth-disease rather than having more options.

 

I wonder why planes are not part of world of tanks? tanks are on land, airfields are on land, tanks and planes used to have a fair and fun type of engagement...

 

edit: and as other pointed out, all-or-nothing strikes (which I also prefer in general) means AA is even more irrelevant because as mr @Beastofwar points out a million times, it's just there to reduce number of strikes... not to save your sorry behind from anything.

 

actually, WG has planes in WoT in the form of consumables in "Frontlines" battle mode.

that's BTW, in part what killed that game mode for me. the initial Frontlines was fun, there was cover, bushes, etc. and the battle was pretty tactical. Then they introduced wheeled vehicles and multiplied dumb consumables like air strike, artillery strike, etc. and deleted cover and bushes from the maps.

 

anyway, WoT seems to be going down the drain the same as WoWS, since there are news of WoT introducing "crew 2.0" which is a pure pay to win scam.