Finally an explanation why flags from achievements were removed

[arttuperkunas]

I have no words

[ColonelPete]

WoW...

• if that were the case, we would see less people throwing their ships away, we do not
• it would have been an easy fix to just remove the signals for the Detonation achievement...

[159Hunter]

Posts like this justify a facepalm symbol on the forums.

 

GG WG, just say you did it for the money. Don't insult us with this bullsheep

[arttuperkunas]

At least we now know what it looks like to sell out what dignity and self respect a man has for a paycheck.

[Ashardalon_Dragnipur]

a far better solution then removing detonations 

just genius 

[Aragathor]

9 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

At least we now know what it looks like to sell out what dignity and self respect a man has for a paycheck.

Some people are willing to sell their integrity on the cheap.

[MementoMori_6030]

Who are those mouthpieces? Not the usual EU suspects, I guess...

[dommo77]

I miss throwing my ship away to get a Kraken... or Confederate... or Detonation, it is so much worth it to throw away your ship 10 times in a row to get one deto and 10 deto flags, where for 3-4 good games and discount coupon I can get 20 deto flags from Armory. Makes perfect sense. 

[arttuperkunas]

1 minute ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

Who are those mouthpieces? Not the usual EU suspects, I guess...

NA community managers.

 

Living in a post truth landscape clearly.

[Aragathor]

1 minute ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

Who are those mouthpieces? Not the usual EU suspects, I guess...

NA community mismamangers.

 

 

[LemonadeWarriorITA]

Pretty cancerous gaming company if it turns out that this is the official reply

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 1 Minute, arttuperkunas sagte:

NA community managers.

Are there any left after the Yukon success?

[Miscommunication_dept]

Same old....

 

WG makes bad decision....

Blames player base.....

 

As old as time.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

If you believe this, you will believe anything.

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 3 Minuten, dommo77 sagte:

I miss throwing my ship away to get a Kraken... or Confederate... or Detonation, it is so much worth it to throw away your ship 10 times in a row to get one deto and 10 deto flags, where for 3-4 good games and discount coupon I can get 20 deto flags from Armory. Makes perfect sense. 

They just can't admit that they are breeding idiot players who can't do better than throwing away their instabuy ships.

[arttuperkunas]

I find myself more offended by this than I would have expected. That they think we would believe this... explanation tells you exactly how much respect wg has for our intelligence.

[Islandern]

I can't display the picture in in the first post that states whats going on, can someone helpful write whats going on? Thanks, 

[Wulf_Ace]

21 minutes ago, Islandern said:

I can't display the picture in in the first post that states whats going on, can someone helpful write whats going on? Thanks, 

they think players are idiots. in short.

[tocqueville8]

1) There's no way to "farm" the detonation flag, other than getting shot at.

But going out of your way to get shot at means getting embarassingly low xp and credits, which is simply worse, economy-wise, than buying the damn things.

 

2) Since flags for achievements have been removed, I've found myself increasingly playing for the win, but *then* pretty much throwing the ship away, as I am less interested in having a *great* game for no extra reward.

I've noticed fewer Confederate awards, in particular: I used to go after those flags for the cpt xp, arguably the game's most important resource, but now I would often rather start a new game earlier.

 

Honestly, they could've just added some missions and reduced the number of flags to 5 per achievement, explaining that most decent players could rely entirely on their battle performance to always have flags on, which kind of defeated their purpose.

 

Plus, people were always able to get flags from containers, if they so chose.

[Yedwy]

2 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

I have no words

Ditto

[Hugh_Ruka]

Wow ... "Instead of punishing the individual we punish all players ..." That's what he said .... Is that guy for REAL ?

 

How about removing the stupid detonation mechanic ?

[HMS_Kilinowski]

2 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

I have no words

 

This reasoning doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

 

If a player intends to farm detonation flags, the only way is not using them. But if you're not using them, what's the point of farming them? And if you were farming them cause you intended to use them, why not use them right now?

 

Nobody was farming detonation flags, cause the whole thing is RNG-based. There are no specific angles or anything, nothing you could contribute. All you could do is play ships prone to detonations.

 

Also, how does removing the reward improve the issue of players detonating. In the last 2 weeks I have detonated 3 DDs with my DD guns and I got detonated twice in DDs, cause I ran out of detonation flags. How does this solve the issue of games being ruined/low quality due to detonations?

 

Explain it to me like I was 5 years old.

[lovelacebeer]

I have to admire the guy for being able to say that with a straight face. At least in my profession when I have to say something I know not to be true I can fall behind the saying “I have been instructed to say...” but he just goes out and says it like it’s true. 

[Bear__Necessities]

[edited]me. Is this how low you think our intelligence is WG?? Really? That's the best you guys can come up with?? @MrConway I know you get tagged for a lot of stupid random stuff. But can you clarify this? Are the player base truly being collectively punished because of "Mass detonation flag hoarding"? I've never in 6 years of playing ever even hard of Det flag farming or ever even seen or suspected it. 16,000 games played over 6 years and 3 accounts on 2 servers and I've never seen a single person glad to be detonated. Ever. Honestly, getting flags for putting in effort actually felt pretty good. Made playing and learning the game that little bit more rewarding. Now, the game is just sapping fun levels left and right. 

[AndyHill]

It's nothing new or unexpected really. Basically what happened was the community people got a message in the style of 

 

Hi dudes and dudettes

 

In the next patch we will be removing flag rewards for achievements to reduce the amount of credits and coal in circulation. Do NOT disclose this reason. Instead, when confronted try to pull focus on following points:

1) You now get flags from containers every week even if you don't get achievements! If people count the amounts tell them that they also get special flags and make it sound like a good deal.

2) Claim that there was massive detonation flag farming ruining everyone's games and that we just had to act.

 

Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES admit to making the economy intentionally harsher. The first person to complain about how stupid this makes them look in the eyes of any reasonably competent player gets to participate in the release stream for Russian carriers.