[BOOBY] ZealousStrategist [BOOBY] Players 33 posts 5,752 battles Report post #1 Posted July 10, 2021 Greetings fellow captains, Dark days have come as I am sure you have spotted lemmings appearing from tiers IV-VIII or even IX. To most players this is something they might consider irrelevant or trying to against a raging river current. And you would be correct in thinking that... HOWEVER for those brave souls (like myself), who seek to attain their ideals this is nothing if but a challenge worthy of conquest. With the pleasantries out of the way let's talk reality. Less experienced captains have come back to the game from their long and boring days of lectures in schools, and they need OUR help. Namely when a battle starts we need to be more vigilant and warn any such players when we see them going in weird/wrong directions. I am sure you might feel reluctant to do that, as most people these days go by "I should mind my own business", but don't because this IS in fact your business. If they die early and leave a flank open YOU might just end up losing a battle, and if you don't really care about losing that much, feel free to ignore all this, but if you feel like helping some people in need, and upping that win rate ever so slightly this is for sure the way to do it. Fair winds and a following seas. o7 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2 Posted July 10, 2021 I would be glad if all my 11 teammates moved at all.... 2 10 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #3 Posted July 10, 2021 Enjoy your reports and zero karma Spoiler Edit: down vote it all you want but that's what this player base will give you back in return bud just as you did here lol 3 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,226 battles Report post #4 Posted July 10, 2021 Lemmings are hard work to deal with and I don’t believe there is a easy fix, but surprisingly what can work is actually asking nicely, usually this works when you spawn on a flank and your teammate who spawns next too you decides it wants to go keep the CV company at the back of the team. I have had some success in typing “can you give me a hand on this cap please”. Boring solution I know, but I cannot say I have seen raging in chat to be as effective. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #5 Posted July 10, 2021 Playing this game solo can be extremely frustrating. You just gotta accept that you can't do something about your team mates. If you can't accept it, only play in Div. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #6 Posted July 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: If you can't accept it, only play in Div. ...which, considering the potato-ish actions by quite a few same-clan divisions that I witnessed, isn't a real solution... 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Crimson_Typhoon Players 14 posts 9,924 battles Report post #7 Posted July 10, 2021 Calling this a team game is an insult to the word team, and no amount of discourse in battle will change that. A proper tutorial and progression system might help, but seeing as that won't help make all the money right now, I doubt it's on the roadmap. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #8 Posted July 10, 2021 2 hours ago, ZealousStrategist said: they need OUR help. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] MrWastee Players 4,255 posts 33,584 battles Report post #9 Posted July 10, 2021 #lemmingslose #lemmingsstilllose SURPRISE #lemmingslost 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] NobleRipper Players 1,211 posts Report post #10 Posted July 10, 2021 Legit thought this was a new crossover, judging by the thread title... 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ENUF] Ze_Reckless [ENUF] Players 2,532 posts 23,427 battles Report post #11 Posted July 10, 2021 Judging by the player base Settlers would be more appropriate. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #12 Posted July 11, 2021 7 hours ago, ZealousStrategist said: Dark days have come as I am sure you have spotted lemmings appearing from tiers IV-VIII or even IX. To duplicate my comment from the other thread: Wake up, it's not 2016 anymore. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #13 Posted July 11, 2021 9 hours ago, ZealousStrategist said: Greetings fellow captains, Dark days have come as I am sure you have spotted lemmings appearing from tiers IV-VIII or even IX. To most players this is something they might consider irrelevant or trying to against a raging river current. And you would be correct in thinking that... HOWEVER for those brave souls (like myself), who seek to attain their ideals this is nothing if but a challenge worthy of conquest. With the pleasantries out of the way let's talk reality. Less experienced captains have come back to the game from their long and boring days of lectures in schools, and they need OUR help. Namely when a battle starts we need to be more vigilant and warn any such players when we see them going in weird/wrong directions. I am sure you might feel reluctant to do that, as most people these days go by "I should mind my own business", but don't because this IS in fact your business. If they die early and leave a flank open YOU might just end up losing a battle, and if you don't really care about losing that much, feel free to ignore all this, but if you feel like helping some people in need, and upping that win rate ever so slightly this is for sure the way to do it. Fair winds and a following seas. o7 Would you mind not to ? I am watching an increase in Armchair Generals Lately. Which for some Reason feel the need to try and give Orders to the Remaining Team. And most of the Time these Orders are either Outright Bad or only Beneficial to a Specific Player or Location at the Expense of several others. Which is not Surprising. Cause mostly the People trying to give Orders and berating other players if they dont follow these Orders. Are 50%ers which Generally have a very limited Understanding of the Game Situation and thus mostly give Orders which are Ignorant of everything except their own Limited Perception. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTT] tsounts [TTT] Players 1,711 posts 34,942 battles Report post #14 Posted July 11, 2021 Lemmings? Nah, unity makes stronger! (Or not...) Haven't met again such a cluster of ships, just watch the minimap. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #15 Posted July 11, 2021 13 hours ago, __Helmut_Kohl__ said: Playing this game solo can be extremely frustrating. You just gotta accept that you can't do something about your team mates. If you can't accept it, only play in Div. I prefer solo and moaning about it 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #16 Posted July 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Sunleader said: Which is not Surprising. Cause mostly the People trying to give Orders and berating other players if they dont follow these Orders. Are 50%ers which Generally have a very limited Understanding of the Game Situation and thus mostly give Orders which are Ignorant of everything except their own Limited Perception. Well, that would still make them more qualified than about 80% of the rest of the playerbase, right? Around 50% winrate and at least a limited understanding is way ahead of <50% and no understanding at all.. ^v^ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #17 Posted July 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Sunleader said: Would you mind not to ? I am watching an increase in Armchair Generals Lately. Which for some Reason feel the need to try and give Orders to the Remaining Team. And most of the Time these Orders are either Outright Bad or only Beneficial to a Specific Player or Location at the Expense of several others. Which is not Surprising. Cause mostly the People trying to give Orders and berating other players if they dont follow these Orders. Are 50%ers which Generally have a very limited Understanding of the Game Situation and thus mostly give Orders which are Ignorant of everything except their own Limited Perception. Well that increase is probably due to people actually tying to help (out of sheer frustration) to actually achieve a win. So frustrated are they with the continuous bad habits and 0 map knowledge of the vast majority of the new player base we have. what else can you do but give advise (politely of course). It also occurred to me that, thanks to WG's desperation for people to grind, there are so many missions in this game now that some people are trying to achieve something completely different to some one else. That's never good for team game play imo. I don't find 50%'ers are the problem in fact as a 100% solo player do you have any idea how hard it is to achieve a consistent 50% win rate with some of the current players you mention in this game these days? It is by no means easy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOOBY] ZealousStrategist [BOOBY] Players 33 posts 5,752 battles Report post #18 Posted July 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Sunleader said: Would you mind not to ? I am watching an increase in Armchair Generals Lately. Which for some Reason feel the need to try and give Orders to the Remaining Team. And most of the Time these Orders are either Outright Bad or only Beneficial to a Specific Player or Location at the Expense of several others. Which is not Surprising. Cause mostly the People trying to give Orders and berating other players if they dont follow these Orders. Are 50%ers which Generally have a very limited Understanding of the Game Situation and thus mostly give Orders which are Ignorant of everything except their own Limited Perception. I never mentioned any "orders". What I meant was something as simple as telling people who move in Spoiler "retarded" ways to simply correct them into moving in more acceptable/productive ways. Can you relate if I told you that I saw a dd player yesterday who refused to cap, but not because he had any plan in mind to deal dmg to the enemy or the like. He just stood some 6 km outside the cap behind the islands "waiting for the bbs to cap" (he said). I mean...I would have understood if he had ANY plan in mind in order to do something constructive, but he just sat there, did nothing and let 2 bbs, 1 cruiser and a carrier defend an entire flank containing 6 enemy ships... And he just left when he saw we were outnumbered... I don't blame him for running away, but he could have done something beforehand to at least protect the carrier, spot or anything for that matter... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #19 Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, ZealousStrategist said: I never mentioned any "orders". What I meant was something as simple as telling people who move in Hide contents "retarded" That will not help one bit and get you chat banned quickly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOOBY] ZealousStrategist [BOOBY] Players 33 posts 5,752 battles Report post #20 Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, ColonelPete said: That will not help one bit and get you chat banned quickly... I literally never got a single chat ban. Perhaps it is because I never insult anyone even when they deserve it. (in-game ofc) But all in all I never have such issues. When I see someone is a lost cause I instantly give up on them and formulate a new plan knowing that that individual will die in the next 1-2 mins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #21 Posted July 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, ZealousStrategist said: I literally never got a single chat ban. Perhaps it is because I never insult anyone even when they deserve it. (in-game ofc) But all in all I never have such issues. When I see someone is a lost cause I instantly give up on them and formulate a new plan knowing that that individual will die in the next 1-2 mins. Then you are using more constructive words, then the one you used in your last post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #22 Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Deckeru_Maiku said: Well, that would still make them more qualified than about 80% of the rest of the playerbase, right? Around 50% winrate and at least a limited understanding is way ahead of <50% and no understanding at all.. ^v^ IE the guy that yolos his BB in between 4 unspotted enemy DDs, dies to torps then reports as many of the team on his flank as he can for not suporting him 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOOBY] ZealousStrategist [BOOBY] Players 33 posts 5,752 battles Report post #23 Posted July 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Then you are using more constructive words, then the one you used in your last post. You wound me sir. I would like to "hear" which words in the last post were unconstructive as you say. (So that I can learn from the mistake, since I don't really make posts all that often) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOOBY] ZealousStrategist [BOOBY] Players 33 posts 5,752 battles Report post #24 Posted July 11, 2021 Gotta love them when they say, "someone kill stealed me...again". So cringe... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #25 Posted July 11, 2021 Vor 18 Stunden, lovelacebeer sagte: Lemmings are hard work to deal with and I don’t believe there is a easy fix Sure there is. Just make ships taking DoT for being closer than... let's say... 2 or 3 km to an ally. Some teams might kill themselves that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites