[ROPS] HMS_Edinburgh_C16 Players 272 posts 5,823 battles Report post #1 Posted July 8, 2021 https://dodofinance.com/all-financial-operations-of-wargaming-llc-in-the-eu-can-be-seized-as-a-result-of-close-cooperation-with-b-efekt-a-s-and-globalmoney-companies/ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] VeryHonarbrah Players 386 posts 15,529 battles Report post #2 Posted July 8, 2021 was also a article in the new york times in feb. Probably a lot of legal action going on behind the scenes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R_N_G] Bindolaf_Werebane Players 1,387 posts 12,045 battles Report post #3 Posted July 8, 2021 "oops" Time for more Satan boxes!! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #4 Posted July 8, 2021 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #5 Posted July 8, 2021 any comments from the staff or is it too much to be asked once again? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,239 battles Report post #6 Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said: https://dodofinance.com/all-financial-operations-of-wargaming-llc-in-the-eu-can-be-seized-as-a-result-of-close-cooperation-with-b-efekt-a-s-and-globalmoney-companies/ 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PISH] Bratoev Players 524 posts 5,416 battles Report post #7 Posted July 8, 2021 Well I guess the Czechs won't be getting Santa Crates this year. 1 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Fat_Maniac [HOO] Players 2,337 posts 4,238 battles Report post #8 Posted July 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, hellhound666 said: any comments from the staff or is it too much to be asked once again? They can't. Anything they say could be used in court against WG 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HassenderZerhacker Players 1,307 posts 3,884 battles Report post #9 Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said: https://dodofinance.com/all-financial-operations-of-wargaming-llc-in-the-eu-can-be-seized-as-a-result-of-close-cooperation-with-b-efekt-a-s-and-globalmoney-companies/ the article is completely unclear, all I can remember from it is "money laundering involving Wargaming LLC" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] AndyHill Weekend Tester 1,433 posts Report post #10 Posted July 8, 2021 Interesting if true, but so far I haven't seen any kind of real sources for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #11 Posted July 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, HassenderZerhacker said: the article is completely unclear, all I can remember from it is "money laundering involving Wargaming LLC" Seems it's pretty clear after all ^^ 3 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #12 Posted July 8, 2021 59 minutes ago, hellhound666 said: any comments from the staff or is it too much to be asked once again? This is not something staff have the authority to comment on, its way beyond their respective remit. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,322 battles Report post #13 Posted July 8, 2021 Well, the title is sensationalist click bait. What the article and many others posted here and on NA forum say, is that WG has been used as a tool in money laundering. So WG will be closed and we will lose all our stuff? No, not even close. What is most likely happening, is that investigators are going through the records of the finance department to check for patterns that point towards money laundering. If they find enough proof, WG will be fined. The people who ran the scheme in WG, which most likely does not include Victor Kyslyi, will be charged. At the end of the day it will have zero impact on either the game or its development. 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PISH] Bratoev Players 524 posts 5,416 battles Report post #14 Posted July 8, 2021 Plus for all their faults WG are small in comparison to what could actually be investigated but doesn't suit the political circles of Europe. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #15 Posted July 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, Aragathor said: Well, the title is sensationalist click bait. What the article and many others posted here and on NA forum say, is that WG has been used as a tool in money laundering. So WG will be closed and we will lose all our stuff? No, not even close. What is most likely happening, is that investigators are going through the records of the finance department to check for patterns that point towards money laundering. If they find enough proof, WG will be fined. The people who ran the scheme in WG, which most likely does not include Victor Kyslyi, will be charged. At the end of the day it will have zero impact on either the game or its development. Surely money laundering is a criminal offence in most, if not all, countries, so a fine for shady financial conduct appears rather inappropriate? Ah, I read the rest of the post. Nevermind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #16 Posted July 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, Shaka_D said: This is not something staff have the authority to comment on, its way beyond their respective remit. ok, my wording was off ... my bad lets rephrase it - official statement to the clients 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #17 Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, hellhound666 said: ok, my wording was off ... my bad lets rephrase it - official statement to the clients No worries there matey, I forgive you, but only this once . Jokes aside, I think any ongoing investigation prohibits any statement, though it might be good for consumer confidence... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BATES] leonport Players 298 posts 9,569 battles Report post #18 Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Bratoev said: Well I guess the Czechs won't be getting Santa Crates this year. Oh no they won't get a guaranteed makarov 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FAILS] BruceRKF Players 1,077 posts 27,204 battles Report post #19 Posted July 8, 2021 42 minutes ago, Aragathor said: Well, the title is sensationalist click bait. What the article and many others posted here and on NA forum say, is that WG has been used as a tool in money laundering. So WG will be closed and we will lose all our stuff? No, not even close. What is most likely happening, is that investigators are going through the records of the finance department to check for patterns that point towards money laundering. If they find enough proof, WG will be fined. The people who ran the scheme in WG, which most likely does not include Victor Kyslyi, will be charged. At the end of the day it will have zero impact on either the game or its development. How dare you speaking sensibly? That's not something we do around here! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #20 Posted July 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, Shaka_D said: Jokes aside, I think any ongoing investigation prohibits any statement, though it might be good for consumer confidence... True, but any statements at this stage would only be stirring the pot and adding speculation to something you absolutely do not want drawing attention too at this stage, until investigations are well and truly over. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #21 Posted July 8, 2021 Makes you wonder if it was a devious plan to f*ck up the Santaparty, so a ton of money could be "refunded" beyond the owed amount, which - in the books - was attributed to those accounts abroad while being transferred elsewhere... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #22 Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, SeaWolf7 said: True, but any statements at this stage would only be stirring the pot... I thought exactly that was SOP for WG? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JOLLY] UnterSeeBot Players 967 posts Report post #23 Posted July 8, 2021 While this topic is very interesting, I am unhappy with the poor quality of the online sources that make these allegations of money laundering and possibly other types of fraud. Until we have a well known and respected media (Financial Times, Les Echos, Handelsblatt or the Moscow Times for example, I'm going to exercise caution. Nonetheless, nothing about the opaque way Wargaming is setup, organized and run inspires confidence, these allegations, however poor quality the sources, will not surprise anyone. As for responsibility if a crime has been committed : Wargaming has no shareholders (hence the opacity), it is owner run, the buck stops at Victor Kislyi. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NLD2] Rockstone_III Players 275 posts 16,314 battles Report post #24 Posted July 8, 2021 Hey... is "a former CC that shall not be named" active here also? Anway... seems to me to be clickbait and/or fake news. Show me Bloomberg and I'll consider reading it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #25 Posted July 8, 2021 4 hours ago, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said: https://dodofinance.com/all-financial-operations-of-wargaming-llc-in-the-eu-can-be-seized-as-a-result-of-close-cooperation-with-b-efekt-a-s-and-globalmoney-companies/ And if you buy Satan crates you may win an Enterprise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
