[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #1 Posted July 2, 2021 From devblog: Edinburgh really needed a nerf, OP ship. I am a bit salty about this, because unlike the earlier nerfs this one is a nerf to the thing the RN CL line is specifically supposed to be good at, i.e. DPM. It's not a massive nerf, but maybe except for the fiji, it is uncalled for. These ships are balanced around the lack of HE (i.e. if you can angle, their DPM drops like a rock), and their fragility. 1 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #2 Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, arttuperkunas said: From devblog: Edinburgh really needed a nerf, OP ship. I am a bit salty about this, because unlike the earlier nerfs this one is a nerf to the thing the RN CL line is specifically supposed to be good at, i.e. DPM. It's not a massive nerf, but maybe except for the fiji, it is uncalled for. These ships are balanced around the lack of HE (i.e. if you can angle, their DPM drops like a rock), and their fragility. Comrade, the UK CLs were seriously OP compared to the modest cruisers of mother Russia, which were struggling to compete. To the Gulag! 3 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGP2W] LemonadeWarriorITA [WGP2W] Beta Tester 1,669 posts 8,186 battles Report post #3 Posted July 2, 2021 Didn't they get a buff the previous time? Increased radar range to 10km? Feels like a justified nerf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #4 Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, LemonadeWarriorITA said: Didn't they get a buff the previous time? Increased radar range to 10km? Feels like a justified nerf. Mmmmust have been before my time? They've had 10 km radar for as long as I've been playing, which granted isn't that long. As I said, I can understand the nerf to fiji. But do you feel this was a justified nerf to Leander, or in particular to Edinburgh? (and "last time" they got nerfed; smoke duration nerfs to some of the silver RN CL ships; that was not that big of a deal, because it did not affect the "heart" of the line IMO) 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Tanaka_15 Beta Tester 2,514 posts 20,269 battles Report post #5 Posted July 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said: From devblog: Edinburgh really needed a nerf, OP ship. I am a bit salty about this, because unlike the earlier nerfs this one is a nerf to the thing the RN CL line is specifically supposed to be good at, i.e. DPM. It's not a massive nerf, but maybe except for the fiji, it is uncalled for. These ships are balanced around the lack of HE (i.e. if you can angle, their DPM drops like a rock), and their fragility. Fun is not allowed in this game. just go play cvs instead. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #6 Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, Tanaka_15 said: Fun is not allowed in this game. just go play cvs instead. Had a stab at it with the Rhein. Despite my unicum stats in CVs (60%, 3 victories out of 5 games played!) neither I nor I am sure anyone in my team had fun. 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Tanaka_15 Beta Tester 2,514 posts 20,269 battles Report post #7 Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, arttuperkunas said: Had a stab at it with the Rhein. Despite my unicum stats in CVs (60%, 3 victories out of 5 games played!) neither I nor I am sure anyone in my team had fun. thats good, not having fun is excatly what wg aim is. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #8 Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, Tanaka_15 said: thats good, not having fun is excatly what wg aim is. :( 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #9 Posted July 2, 2021 Leander and Fiji are performing very strongly. But as I said in my comments to the DevBlog, I am not sure if that is because of the ships or the players. If that performance is caused by the ships, then the change is ok. Edinburgh on the other hand has good, but not strong performance. It would have been better to improve some of the weaker ships on that Tier. Spoiler http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20210612/eu_2month/average_ship_u.html 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #10 Posted July 2, 2021 Long story short. Too many people have them and they need to nerf to make others more attractive. Please see YY, Kaba and Hindy for more information. Basically "get grinding other lines" and spend money. They wait this long to nerf RN crusiers because they are over preforming? Please..we are not that naive. Even the Surrey is out preforming the Fiji. And the Edinburgh? Whatever..leander is middle of the pack damage wise, lol. However what they all have in comman is they are very popular. A blind man can see this. Nope, its bisnuess as usual. 21 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #11 Posted July 2, 2021 Edinburgh is the 6th popular Tier VIII tech tree cruiser in the past two months. Fiji is 3rd on her Tier and Leander is also 6th. Spoiler And no, Surrey is not outperforming Fiji... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R_N_G] Bindolaf_Werebane Players 1,387 posts 12,045 battles Report post #12 Posted July 2, 2021 Good job, WG. You really spotted the ships that needed adjustments. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #13 Posted July 2, 2021 2 hours ago, LemonadeWarriorITA said: Feels like a justified nerf. How so? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #14 Posted July 2, 2021 2 hours ago, LemonadeWarriorITA said: Didn't they get a buff the previous time? Increased radar range to 10km? Feels like a justified nerf. Fiji and Leander don't have radar. Also compared to the USN CAs, the RN ones without smoke cannot tank. They get overmatched by anything bigger than 8" guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,419 battles Report post #15 Posted July 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, Redcap375 said: Basically "get grinding other lines" and spend money. I don't see how increasing the gun reload by 5% would make anyone switch to a different line. It's not a major change to the consumables, the armor layout or the range, the kind of stuff that makes or breaks a line of mostly smoke-campers. To me these sorts of nerfs look like someone at WG is being very "anal" over a ship slightly over- or underperforming. Like the Nagato reload buff from 30 to 29 seconds. I doubt it would have any impact whatsoever, tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,638 battles Report post #16 Posted July 2, 2021 RN should not have sailed so close to Ukraine! LOL 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #17 Posted July 2, 2021 21 minutes ago, triumphgt6 said: RN should not have sailed so close to Ukraine! LOL Poor people have bad radar and with eyes couldn't see the Petro as it has no broadside at all. Completely understandable mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WASP_] LABRAT_1UK [WASP_] Players 156 posts Report post #18 Posted July 2, 2021 Looks like they will just be fit for co op now with the rest :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #19 Posted July 2, 2021 3 hours ago, ColonelPete said: Edinburgh is the 6th popular Tier VIII tech tree cruiser in the past two months. Fiji is 3rd on her Tier and Leander is also 6th. Hide contents And no, Surrey is not outperforming Fiji... Yes it is. Both in Damage, WR and kill. Surrey U.K. 691 825 52.51 % 0.70 42 788 1 464 2.65 1.24 Fiji U.K. 5 833 239 52.29 % 0.83 40 865 1 332 1.53 1.41 Past 2 months mean nothing and you know that. Stop trying to fit the narrative Pete, again. Fiji is the 3rd most popular Edinburgh 4th Leander 4th All 3 are in the top 1/4. What's the odds. They did the same thing to the Hindy, YY, Alsare ect ect... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #20 Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, Redcap375 said: Yes it is. Surrey U.K. 691 825 52.51 % 0.70 42 788 1 464 2.65 1.24 Fiji U.K. 5 833 239 52.29 % 0.83 40 865 1 332 1.53 1.41 Past 2 months mean nothing and you know that. Stop trying to fit the narrative Pete, again. Fiji is the 3rd most popular Edinburgh 4th Leander 4th All 3 are in the top 1/4. What's the odds. Yes, comparing 1 year and 4 year old stats is a good idea and show us how the ships perform in the current meta Why do some people not understand that? 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
totally_potato Players 2,533 posts Report post #21 Posted July 2, 2021 5 hours ago, ColonelPete said: Leander and Fiji are performing very strongly. But as I said in my comments to the DevBlog, I am not sure if that is because of the ships or the players. mostly the players. I have met many new players, who just looked at the UK CL line saw no HE and explosion and spat on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #22 Posted July 2, 2021 7 hours ago, arttuperkunas said: Edinburgh really needed a nerf, OP ship. Come on be honest...where did she touch you? Was it in the superstructure? She's not OP IMO Just very good at her job if you play her right . Make a mistake and its back to port especially when she's dealing with some proper OP BB's at VIII and X. High risk high reward. It doesn't justify a nerf but 200th of a second isnt going to make much of a difference tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #23 Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, SeaWolf7 said: Come on be honest...where did she touch you? Was it in the superstructure? She's not OP IMO Just very good at her job if you play her right . Make a mistake and its back to port especially when she's dealing with some proper OP BB's at VIII and X. High risk high reward. It doesn't justify a nerf but 200th of a second isnt going to make much of a difference tbh. Do we really need to use the /s tag so ppl get it? Ive grinded the edinburger. It is at most a decent ship for its tier. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RNBCD] The_White_Whale Players 283 posts 3,035 battles Report post #24 Posted July 2, 2021 11 hours ago, LemonadeWarriorITA said: Didn't they get a buff the previous time? Increased radar range to 10km? Feels like a justified nerf. They launched with 10km radar, and that is only the T8/9/10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #25 Posted July 3, 2021 14 hours ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said: Good job, WG. You really spotted the ships that needed adjustments. I was just having that same thought. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
