[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #1 Posted July 2, 2021 She is available in the armory: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IFS] Gudgeon Players 583 posts 26,329 battles Report post #2 Posted July 2, 2021 Just what the game needs....a radar BB at tier 8. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #3 Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gudgeon said: Just what the game needs....a radar BB at tier 8. don't worry, it could get nerfed at any moment 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adm_Andre Players 280 posts 586 battles Report post #4 Posted July 2, 2021 Vor 7 Minuten, Gudgeon sagte: Just what the game needs....a radar BB at tier 8. Just what the game need another BB 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vilar69 Players 24 posts 7,206 battles Report post #5 Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Adm_Andre said: Just what the game need another BB Could have been worse. Could have been a submarine. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #6 Posted July 2, 2021 I do not mind the BB, but I do mind the radar. That was just not necessary. Especially for a ship that was planned during WW1 and was to be build in the early 20s. 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #7 Posted July 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: I do not mind the BB, but I do mind the radar. That was just not necessary. Especially for a ship that was planned during WW1 and was to be build in the early 20s. yes it was ... and not just necessary, but very necessary ... from the sales point of new ... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] josykay Players 711 posts Report post #8 Posted July 2, 2021 Radar, Torpedos.... 2 things the ship should not have. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foxhound421a Players 82 posts Report post #9 Posted July 2, 2021 So when does she get the right guns? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #10 Posted July 2, 2021 Yeah.. 34.9 kn with the flag 10km radar 30 sec duration 9.1 km torps underwater citadel spotter or fighter AA rating of 90 Cant see why they add "paper" ships when there are real ones, USS Washington, USS New Jersey, USS Wisconsin, USS South Dakota, USS Indiana Do we really need this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #11 Posted July 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, hellhound666 said: yes it was ... and not just necessary, but very necessary ... from the sales point of new ... Doubtful. Players love BB anyway, they do not need cream and sprinkles on top of it to get sold. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #12 Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, ColonelPete said: Doubtful. Players love BB anyway, they do not need cream and sprinkles on top of it to get sold. it doesn't hurt either and what would be another reason, historical accuracy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #13 Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, hellhound666 said: it doesn't hurt either and what would be another reason, historical accuracy? Game Balance, maybe you heard of that? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #14 Posted July 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ronchabale said: Do we really need this I like the Wiki article on this ship. "10km torpedoes and 10km radar tempt her captains to play Constellation like a cruiser. She is not a cruiser.". A ;iightly armoured BC getting into brawling range is iikely to end badly . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IFS] Gudgeon Players 583 posts 26,329 battles Report post #15 Posted July 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, Ronchabale said: Yeah.. 34.9 kn with the flag 10km radar 30 sec duration 9.1 km torps underwater citadel spotter or fighter AA rating of 90 Do we really need this Its got torps too......wow this game. Just faced two in my Assa, sent one to davy jones locker. But it was wall to wall radar around the cap on hotspot thanks to these two. Just think, you can learn to DD at tier 6 facing all the air and sea based detection mechanics in this game situated at tier 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #16 Posted July 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Game Balance, maybe you heard of that? yeah. it has to be balanced... and btw. I've personally paid for that balance, with my own cash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vilar69 Players 24 posts 7,206 battles Report post #17 Posted July 2, 2021 38 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Game Balance, maybe you heard of that? Have we ever had balance? Never had it before, why start now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #18 Posted July 2, 2021 52 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Game Balance, maybe you heard of that? Is that why they mis match the teams, players, ships, etc. ? One game u are in the good team next game u are in the rubbish team Win some - lose some = balans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #19 Posted July 2, 2021 So this BB has longer range radar than equivalent US cruisers at its tiers? Edit: looked at the wiki entry - under "alternative opinion" for how to play the ship: "Constellation is a ship best played at short to medium range. Although she is capable of slugging it out at longer ranges, players will likely find that in Random Battles she is more fun if played as a brawler, similar to Tirpitz." Has BoW been editing the wiki? Who would play a 27mm battleship with laughable broadside armor at close range? Everything about this ship except maybe the radar screams "kiting backline sniper": -Fast -Weak plating and citadel armor -Gun orientation that favours kiting (at least according to the wiki) -Stern launched torpedoes -Great accuracy The radar leaves me wondering though. Maybe it's the perfect BBaby sniper tool, to remove the last threat, i.e. back line stalking enemy DDs torping the snipers? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Strapps [TOXIC] Players 1,135 posts 5,968 battles Report post #20 Posted July 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said: So this BB has longer range radar than equivalent US cruisers at its tiers? Because a BB is bigger than a cruiser and therefore can mount the radar higher. Obviously. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #21 Posted July 2, 2021 53 minutes ago, Vilar69 said: Have we ever had balance? Never had it before, why start now. Yes, we have balanced ships. 37 minutes ago, Ronchabale said: Is that why they mis match the teams, players, ships, etc. ? This about ship balance, not team balance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #22 Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Ronchabale said: Yeah.. 34.9 kn with the flag 10km radar 30 sec duration 9.1 km torps underwater citadel spotter or fighter AA rating of 90 Cant see why they add "paper" ships when there are real ones, USS Washington, USS New Jersey, USS Wisconsin, USS South Dakota, USS Indiana Do we really need this If you wanted a radar BB at T8, Washington would have been the ideal choice, no? Given its use at Guadalcanal. And a range of 17.4 kms? Seriously? At T8? That thing is food. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vilar69 Players 24 posts 7,206 battles Report post #23 Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, SodaBubbles said: If you wanted a radar BB at T8, Washington would have been the ideal choice, no? Given its use at Guadalcanal. And a range of 17.4 kms? Seriously? At T8? That thing is food. 20.2km with the plotting room in slot 3. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #24 Posted July 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, Vilar69 said: 20.2km with the plotting room in slot 3. Oh, you would never take artillery plotting room. It's secondary mod all the way! After all, according to the (alternative opinion) wiki, this ship is a brawler! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Tanaka_15 Beta Tester 2,514 posts 20,269 battles Report post #25 Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, arttuperkunas said: Oh, you would never take artillery plotting room. It's secondary mod all the way! After all, according to the (alternative opinion) wiki, this ship is a brawler! You need to be new kinde of potato people to acutally die to sec fire.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites