[-RNH-] Odinius85 Players 38 posts 4,494 battles Report post #1 Posted July 1, 2021 "Some ships won't have depth charges or ASW planes. Much like with other existing tools such as Hydroacoustic search or Main Battery Reload Booster, some features are exclusive to certain ships. Ships without ASW armament will be able to confront submarines thanks to the depletion of their Dive Capacity or in close work with allies that do have ASW tools." If I ever fin myself in a position where a game is decided by a submarine that can spam torps from right under my keel while I can do nothing to hurt it back then I will never play this game again. And whoever thought of this idea should be fired and never work on this game ever again. 22 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VuilbaardGames Players 66 posts 642 battles Report post #2 Posted July 1, 2021 You can start uninstalling already then, no need to wait for the inevitable 2 8 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[0KILL] AkerJack Players 444 posts Report post #3 Posted July 1, 2021 Lets face the reality...nobody wants them they they will be implemented soon. It's up to us to accept it or not... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNH-] Odinius85 Players 38 posts 4,494 battles Report post #4 Posted July 1, 2021 The sad [edited]thing is this: "Regardless, we also understand that the matchmaker may need changes with the addition of submarines, and now we're considering additional limitations affecting multiple classes together, for example both submarines and destroyers, or destroyers, submarines and aircraft carriers. E.g. no more than 5 destroyers and submarines combined. At the same time, limits on each class will remain." So you can get a match with 5 Subs and 2 CVs. Imagine that in your lovely BB. It's 7 enemies you can not damage and you will never see but at least you can take some pot shots at the 5 enemy BBs before you all get sent back to port with 0 counterplay. Whoever suggested this class in a meeting needs to get their head examined. 5 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #5 Posted July 1, 2021 as long as they stay out of ranke..... Oh wait Nm 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #6 Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Odinius85 said: Imagine that in your lovely BB. It's 7 enemies you can not damage and you will never see but at least you can take some pot shots at the 5 enemy BBs before you all get sent back to port with 0 counterplay Dude, it's going to be the cruisers to get crapped on hardest in that scenario.. or Cruiser, as with 5 BaBBis in each and every battle there's not that many slots available for cruisers anyway... Well, I've never been a really competitive player, so restricting my game to CoOp - and playing a sub there, to make sure there's at least one bot sub in the battle - and playing as relaxed as possible will my personal solution, I guess... 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAWS] dan_matt Players 99 posts 6,997 battles Report post #7 Posted July 2, 2021 If they can bring in cruisers that can launch squadrons of planes to attack you, CVs that can not be set on fire, MM so insanely unbalanced that a nun with no prior experience of gaming could organise better, then you can bet WG will bring in Subs that only half of the current playable ships. Just look at what is happening on the NA server, poor communications, staff leaving, hardcore players leaving in droves, WG in USSR only care about the money and not about the game, the sooner everyone realises this the better 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R3B3L] HystericalAccuracy Players 1,505 posts 40,428 battles Report post #8 Posted July 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Odinius85 said: If I ever fin myself in a position where a game is decided by a submarine that can spam torps from right under my keel while I can do nothing to hurt it back then I will never play this game again. You can... 4 hours ago, VuilbaardGames said: You can start uninstalling already then, no need to wait for the inevitable Exactly, I also think that WG will leave some ships helpless against submarines. Look in comparison at the aircraft carriers; they were in the game from 2015 on and WG couldn´t make them work until today, almost six years later. We have ships in-game which don´t have a single AA-gun or max some MG´s (some T3-T4 cruisers/BBs) and can do absolutely nothing when attacked. Now take into consideration that these ships face double-CV games on a regular basis... The Shinonome at T6 only has one twin-MG. Imagine this ship facing the soon-to-come Sovietskiy Krasnobalanskiy CV at T8 which will smack it with eight planes at once - delicious. I have no faith that WG will ever properly implement subs. 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MACLD] Onsterfelijke Players 993 posts 18,864 battles Report post #9 Posted July 2, 2021 Operation is then something to focus on.... otherwise i am afraid it's the end for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #10 Posted July 2, 2021 10 hours ago, Odinius85 said: "Some ships won't have depth charges or ASW planes. Much like with other existing tools such as Hydroacoustic search or Main Battery Reload Booster, some features are exclusive to certain ships. Ships without ASW armament will be able to confront submarines thanks to the depletion of their Dive Capacity or in close work with allies that do have ASW tools." If I ever fin myself in a position where a game is decided by a submarine that can spam torps from right under my keel while I can do nothing to hurt it back then I will never play this game again. And whoever thought of this idea should be fired and never work on this game ever again. This is pretty much the exact same situation as every time you get a CV in a match. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNH-] Odinius85 Players 38 posts 4,494 battles Report post #11 Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: This is pretty much the exact same situation as every time you get a CV in a match. There is a theoretical chance that you can sink it. Which makes it less painfull so to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SERBS] RepSrb Players 653 posts 25,073 battles Report post #12 Posted July 2, 2021 15 hours ago, AkerJack said: Lets face the reality...nobody wants them they they will be implemented soon. It's up to us to accept it or not... many people want them, so no youre very wrong. ....and stop whining already they wont be that strong. 2 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P7S] Vbeest Players 452 posts Report post #13 Posted July 2, 2021 Important addition to the game to widen the horizon of 99% of the playerbase. And to end the "CV paranoia" as well. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #14 Posted July 2, 2021 15 hours ago, VuilbaardGames said: You can start uninstalling already then, no need to wait for the inevitable Yep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
totally_potato Players 2,533 posts Report post #15 Posted July 2, 2021 15 hours ago, Odinius85 said: "Some ships won't have depth charges or ASW planes. Much like with other existing tools such as Hydroacoustic search or Main Battery Reload Booster, some features are exclusive to certain ships. Ships without ASW armament will be able to confront submarines thanks to the depletion of their Dive Capacity or in close work with allies that do have ASW tools." If I ever fin myself in a position where a game is decided by a submarine that can spam torps from right under my keel while I can do nothing to hurt it back then I will never play this game again. And whoever thought of this idea should be fired and never work on this game ever again. Random player: Just no WG: Did we ask you?? That's basically what they say. There no point anymore in making these threads, coz WG just doesn't give a crap 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #16 Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, totally_potato said: Random player: Just no WG: Did we ask you?? That's basically what they say. There no point anymore in making these threads, coz WG just doesn't give a crap You dont understand m8, the silent majority has spoken out about the subs and is demanding them... The silent majority in the marketing dep that is 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #17 Posted July 2, 2021 At this point they could just introduce ships without AA just because... Spoiler Oh wait they already did it! 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #18 Posted July 2, 2021 Vor 8 Minuten, Humorpalanta sagte: At this point they could just introduce ships without AA just because... Inhalte verstecken Oh wait they already did it! Imagine the joy you can have with Agincourt at T4-T7. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
totally_potato Players 2,533 posts Report post #19 Posted July 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, Yedwy said: You dont understand m8, the silent majority has spoken out about the subs and is demanding them... The silent majority in the marketing dep that is Many ppl on twitter keep asking for subs so yeah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SERBS] RepSrb Players 653 posts 25,073 battles Report post #20 Posted July 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Humorpalanta said: At this point they could just introduce ships without AA just because... Hide contents Oh wait they already did it! not true... i have seen stalins armed with aa modules and skills , whiping out whole squads of fdr in 1 pass... 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HassenderZerhacker Players 1,307 posts 3,884 battles Report post #21 Posted July 2, 2021 20 hours ago, Odinius85 said: "Some ships won't have depth charges or ASW planes. Much like with other existing tools such as Hydroacoustic search or Main Battery Reload Booster, some features are exclusive to certain ships. Ships without ASW armament will be able to confront submarines thanks to the depletion of their Dive Capacity or in close work with allies that do have ASW tools." If I ever fin myself in a position where a game is decided by a submarine that can spam torps from right under my keel while I can do nothing to hurt it back then I will never play this game again. And whoever thought of this idea should be fired and never work on this game ever again. I won't even see how they will turn out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GWR] illy Players 913 posts 18,823 battles Report post #22 Posted July 2, 2021 20 hours ago, Odinius85 said: "Some ships won't have depth charges or ASW planes. Much like with other existing tools such as Hydroacoustic search or Main Battery Reload Booster, some features are exclusive to certain ships. Ships without ASW armament will be able to confront submarines thanks to the depletion of their Dive Capacity or in close work with allies that do have ASW tools." If I ever fin myself in a position where a game is decided by a submarine that can spam torps from right under my keel while I can do nothing to hurt it back then I will never play this game again. And whoever thought of this idea should be fired and never work on this game ever again. you already have ships with zero AA that have to face CVs, of course WG will introduce this 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] NobleRipper Players 1,211 posts Report post #23 Posted July 2, 2021 I really wish I could look forward to something as cool as submarines being added to a WW2 naval battles game. Then I look at every horrible balancing decision WG has made, all the dud lines they've brought in recently, all the signs that the devs don't even play this game that they make... It's just sad at this point how little trust they've caused me to have in their ability to get this right. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #24 Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, illy said: you already have ships with zero AA that have to face CVs, of course WG will introduce this All ships will be able to shoot the subs, when they are on the surface or near enough. I killed them as far away as 15km with a BB on the test server. And shot them when they tried to go up close. They are easier to kill than DDs, and less deadly: they can't kill you in one go. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,226 battles Report post #25 Posted July 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, NobleSauvage said: I really wish I could look forward to something as cool as submarines being added to a WW2 naval battles game. Then I look at every horrible balancing decision WG has made, all the dud lines they've brought in recently, all the signs that the devs don't even play this game that they make... It's just sad at this point how little trust they've caused me to have in their ability to get this right. Exactly my feelings, it’s not subs per say that are the issue. It’s WGs utter ineptitude when it comes to implementing new content and their unenviable track record of failures. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
