Requesting expertise/opinion regarding FXP

[Harvin87]

Hello captains!,

 

Ok, I'm currently closing in on 1M free XP. And, for the most part of that grind, I was thinking of getting the Ägir. Although, I'm a DD main, I've been craving for a good Heavy Cruiser. But, since reading and watching lots of videos and info about Ägir, I'm having second thoughts about blowing the 1m on her. If Alaska was available, I wouldn't think it for a sec, but she isnt.....

 

So, what do you think? shoud I wait for something better to come up for FreeXP? What are the prospects of getting new ships for freexp and which ones? 

 

Thank you!

[quickr]

I regret spending 1M on agir so much. Much more than spending 2M on Smaland.

[Miscommunication_dept]

Agir is a lot of fun with pretty decent armour when angled. 
I like it but all supercruisers burn so badly right now. 
 

It’s still good but the fire issue is very frustrating.

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

I am also close to 1M. I will wait to see what comes on the market soon and then decide. It will probably cost 2M, so I'll pass, pass, pass.

 

I see two possibilities for me, get Gröningen or just get Hindenburg and Zao.

[VeryHonarbrah]

agir isnt bad, but honestly i would keep saving for something better. 

[tocqueville8]

Personally I've never been drawn to the Agir:

 

- huge target, and the bow can be overmatched by many BBs

- as with most German ships, easy to citadel with AP bombs

- unlike most German ships, easy to citadel with AP shells as well, when showing broadside

- no radar, no special AP shells (I think)

- bad firing angles

- you can't take secondary skills on cruisers anymore

 

I mean, it might be strong in 1v1 Brawls on in Ranked, for all I know, but trading, say, radar for torps and nerfed secondaries is just bad. I've rarely been afraid of facing an Agir, unlike many other ships.

 

Honestly, since it's too late for Alaska and Smaland, it might be worth using that Free XP to speed up some annoying grinds, especially the stock modules of T9 ships.

People might suggest you to use it for Research Bureau regrinds, but since you only have one T10 tech tree ship, I'd say that's far in the future 

[Harvin87]

Yes, Halland is my only Tier X ship, I enjoy it very much. So, I also was thinking, if I want a Heavy Cruiser, I should do the US line, use freexp to get NewOrleans, and start from there, I've heard Baltimore is a great ship for its tier and very enjoyable. 

[Panocek]

I would keep Free Exp for time being. At the same time, with Wargaming releasing increasingly mediocre premium ships as of late, odds are, you will not find anything "worthy" of a 1M Free Exp pricetag.

 

3 minutes ago, Harvin87 said:

Yes, Halland is my only Tier X ship, I enjoy it very much. So, I also was thinking, if I want a Heavy Cruiser, I should do the US line, use freexp to get NewOrleans, and start from there, I've heard Baltimore is a great ship for its tier and very enjoyable. 

USN CA line is overall very solid. While Pensacola used to be meme tier bad half a decade ago, since moving her to tier 6 and then repeatedly being hit by a buffing stick, she's little monster of a cruiser. Nope Orlean also kinda lost its "Nope" part. "Baltinope" when downtiered years ago also turned into "BaltiOP" of a sort. Buffalo would be weakest link in the line I suppose, but should be very much playable as well.

 

French heavy cruisers especially from tier 8 onwards also were fun and I suppose still are, with access to Engine Boost and good main gun range you can actually try and play them in open waters like big angry gunboat DD.

[Hakssor]

Why not Friesland/Groningen if you are a DD main? 

[Miscommunication_dept]

12 minutes ago, Harvin87 said:

Yes, Halland is my only Tier X ship, I enjoy it very much. So, I also was thinking, if I want a Heavy Cruiser, I should do the US line, use freexp to get NewOrleans, and start from there, I've heard Baltimore is a great ship for its tier and very enjoyable. 

American cruisers are not easy but they are very fun. they seem to scale well with player ability. Des moines is deadly in the right hands.

 

Just now, MortuaEst_1 said:

Why not Friesland/Groningen if you are a DD main? 

 

I agree, Friesland is such a fun ship. It suffers for lack of torps but with long range hydro, massive dpm and excellent AA, it can handle most situations.

[Hakssor]

As for chances to wait for something else to come for FreeXP (except Groningen but she is a clone), probably it won't happen. We haven't had a new ship for FreeXP in a like a year while Nelson, Alaska, Smaland got pulled out. RB is the new way of spending FXP for ships.

[Harvin87]

So, the best is to maybe spend some freexp to speed grind something in which I'm interested in? As MortuaEst mentioned, there's no interesting choice for a freexp ship in the horizon...

[NothingButTheRain]

3 hours ago, tocqueville8 said:

Personally I've never been drawn to the Agir:

 

- huge target, and the bow can be overmatched by many BBs

- as with most German ships, easy to citadel with AP bombs

- unlike most German ships, easy to citadel with AP shells as well, when showing broadside

- no radar, no special AP shells (I think)

- bad firing angles

- you can't take secondary skills on cruisers anymore

 

I mean, it might be strong in 1v1 Brawls on in Ranked, for all I know, but trading, say, radar for torps and nerfed secondaries is just bad. I've rarely been afraid of facing an Agir, unlike many other ships.

 

Honestly, since it's too late for Alaska and Smaland, it might be worth using that Free XP to speed up some annoying grinds, especially the stock modules of T9 ships.

People might suggest you to use it for Research Bureau regrinds, but since you only have one T10 tech tree ship, I'd say that's far in the future 

It really is kinda sad if the best way to expend FXP is not by getting any actual FXP ships 

[Gwynbleidd11]

4 hours ago, gopher31 said:

Agir is a lot of fun with pretty decent armour when angled. 
I like it but all supercruisers burn so badly right now. 
 

It’s still good but the fire issue is very frustrating.

 

Thats balance for having lots of HP and heal

[Miscommunication_dept]

Just now, Gwynbleidd11 said:

 

Thats balance for having lots of HP and heal

That's why I say its still good

 

60s fires with no fire prevention is pretty frustrating, again as I said earlier.

 

I used to move in with this ship using islands now thanks to the fire issue I have to sit back and shoot with it. Alaska is the better ship at range.

 

I don't play supercruisers much in general except for Stalingrad and a bit of Siegfried as they now need to be played at range to prevent the BBQ.

[Gwynbleidd11]

Agir is the same as Alaska, just with torps and without radar. Both are hard to citadel

[Miscommunication_dept]

2 minutes ago, Gwynbleidd11 said:

Agir is the same as Alaska, just with torps and without radar. Both are hard to citadel

You are wrong in so many ways and you have played neither.

 

I like both but they are so different. 

 

Not cool to throw out statements that may mislead someone to purchase with no experience.

 

 

[tocqueville8]

2 hours ago, NothingButTheRain said:

It really is kinda sad if the best way to expend FXP is not by getting any actual FXP ships 

From what I've read, we'll hardly get any new Free XP ships.

 

Instead they'll keep adding stuff to the Research Bureau.

[Miscommunication_dept]

45 minutes ago, tocqueville8 said:

From what I've read, we'll hardly get any new Free XP ships.

 

Instead they'll keep adding stuff to the Research Bureau.

Research bureau ships are so expensive that they need to be special.

I would buy the Druid for coal or freeXP but it looks too limited in concealment and torps to spend research points.

[NothingButTheRain]

1 hour ago, tocqueville8 said:

From what I've read, we'll hardly get any new Free XP ships.

 

Instead they'll keep adding stuff to the Research Bureau.

Fraid so... 

 

They did mention they would keep adding more FXP ships even after the arsenal was added and the research bureau was added. Still I hope they haven't forgotten about FXP ships completely.

[The_Chiv]

So I have the Agir and am a cruiser main who also plays some bbs. Super cruisers(which is what the Agir is) can be an amazing ship when played right and the Agir can put the Alaska to shame. It can also be rather pain in the [edited]to play as well. it has the ability to one salvo most heavy and light cruisers and it has the ability to chunk battleships with some rather accurate fire from a german ship. The torps are a nice touch but these are by far a weapon of last resort as to try to proactively use them right away is a great way to die. 

 

Agir does require a bit of tactics from multiple styles of cruiser play so if you are not well versed in these I would suggest sticking to a dd.

[The_Chiv]

10 hours ago, Gwynbleidd11 said:

Agir is the same as Alaska, just with torps and without radar. Both are hard to citadel

no they are not. Alaska has improved pen angles, radar worse range, and better AA. Agir however has stronger AP shells, better dispersion, a little bit of turtle back, which is useless to bb shells, and torps meant for up close fights with bbs and cruiser. Agir can outshine the Alaska but it takes a bit of work. Oh yeah Agir has german HE pen so 1/4 vs 1/6 So that is 76mm of armor its HE can pen. Alaska gets like 50Ish

[SodaBubbles]

Get Azuma, mount double rudder shift and watch the salvos miss you by a mile. You can easily average 80-100K in her, and can carry when necessary. Her guns are brilliant, the salvos cluster well. She's a hidden gem.

[Harvin87]

2 horas antes, SodaBubbles dijo:

Get Azuma, mount double rudder shift and watch the salvos miss you by a mile. You can easily average 80-100K in her, and can carry when necessary. Her guns are brilliant, the salvos cluster well. She's a hidden gem.

Sounds interesting, I have two questions: How is it armor-wise? and How good is its AP?

Thanks

[SodaBubbles]

24 minutes ago, Harvin87 said:

Sounds interesting, I have two questions: How is it armor-wise? and How good is its AP?

Thanks

AP is solid, 12 inch AP, death on cruisers because of the excellent clustering, good against BBs upper works, will cit Iowa class under 12 kms. Done it many times.

The armor is so-so. If you are caught broadside by BBs you are dead. But the good news is the rudder shift usually prevents that.