Odin M.I.A

[Kr1gsG4ldr]

I don't know if this is got asked before, but as title, Odin is M.I.A, will she ever return as premium or freemium for coal/steel/freexp?

Sadly i returned here on Wows from 4 years being off just when the dockyard event about her has ended, i wished i could even buy the minimum stages and then get the ship with directives after i realized how dockyard events works and are (yes, trash) without spending a single euro with some doubloons that i found in containers on the first login after all that time (around 3000 or so, dunno if i could make it but i hope you have got my point).

Now, i know is considered not the best ship due to her low hp pool and some other problems, but i think it's a great pick for farm directives fast in coop or take a spin in ranked where there are less players so this means less focusing on her while pushing just like Pommern or other KM bbs.

At least, this has seemed to me after i saw her being used from others, i hope i didn' t have a "shining effect".

[lafeel]

No word whether she, or indeed any other of the dockyard ships, will return, or when, sorry.

[totally_potato]

5 hours ago, LordInvader98k said:

I don't know if this is got asked before, but as title, Odin is M.I.A, will she ever return as premium or freemium for coal/steel/freexp?

Sadly i returned here on Wows from 4 years being off just when the dockyard event about her has ended, i wished i could even buy the minimum stages and then get the ship with directives after i realized how dockyard events works and are (yes, trash) without spending a single euro with some doubloons that i found in containers on the first login after all that time (around 3000 or so, dunno if i could make it but i hope you have got my point).

Now, i know is considered not the best ship due to her low hp pool and some other problems, but i think it's a great pick for farm directives fast in coop or take a spin in ranked where there are less players so this means less focusing on her while pushing just like Pommern or other KM bbs.

At least, this has seemed to me after i saw her being used from others, i hope i didn' t have a "shining effect".

you are probably better off without her

She is kinda trash at doing pretty much everything. Pommern does the hydro torp combo better, and AGir is still in the shop. 

[Origin47]

Unless Odin's health is buffed and maybe even the reload by 3 secs, it is not worth it.

[totally_potato]

1 hour ago, Origin47 said:

Unless Odin's health is buffed and maybe even the reload by 3 secs, it is not worth it.

And her secs are buffed back to what they were

If not HP, atleast give it a good heal

[Miscommunication_dept]

Odin, the ship where 90% of the time you wish you took a Bismarck or Tirpitz.

[Beastofwar]

Anchorage is coming back briefly in some cooperation  with 3rd party event.

 

That is the 1st dockyard ship to reappear  so who knows?

 

Odin is a very enjoyable ship btw. It comes across as a more powerful Graf Spee. 

[NothingButTheRain]

55 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

Anchorage is coming back briefly in some cooperation  with 3rd party event.

 

That is the 1st dockyard ship to reappear  so who knows?

 

Odin is a very enjoyable ship btw. It comes across as a more powerful Graf Spee. 

Anchorage is coming back?

You mean AL?

[Kr1gsG4ldr]

Thank you guys for your thoughts about the ship, as i said, i don't have the ship in port so i've only saw her in action in other hands and despite the hp it seemed "good" and a fun ship to play in some cases.

Anyway even with all the cons that the ship has i hope they put her for coal or steel even because atm, but even from the upcoming ships there is nothing interesting in armory for me and as you know wasting coal/steel for ships that you don't like is never a big deal.

[arttuperkunas]

2 hours ago, totally_potato said:

you are probably better off without her

She is kinda trash at doing pretty much everything. Pommern does the hydro torp combo better, and AGir is still in the shop. 

Odin was surprisingly good in brawls. Spotter, hydro, torps, good armor and secs. Even low hp pool not so much of an issue in 1 vs 1. Not good in randoms, I will give you that.

[koliber_1984]

1 hour ago, Beastofwar said:

Anchorage is coming back briefly in some cooperation  with 3rd party event.

 

That is the 1st dockyard ship to reappear  so who knows?

 

Odin is a very enjoyable ship btw. It comes across as a more powerful Graf Spee. 

That might be only some kind of new fancy perma camo, not entire ship, but who knows? BTW none of the dockyard ships reappeared after event ended, looks like it's the only way WG distribute them.

[YabbaCoe]

8 hours ago, LordInvader98k said:

I don't know if this is got asked before, but as title, Odin is M.I.A, will she ever return as premium or freemium for coal/steel/freexp?

Sadly i returned here on Wows from 4 years being off just when the dockyard event about her has ended, i wished i could even buy the minimum stages and then get the ship with directives after i realized how dockyard events works and are (yes, trash) without spending a single euro with some doubloons that i found in containers on the first login after all that time (around 3000 or so, dunno if i could make it but i hope you have got my point).

Now, i know is considered not the best ship due to her low hp pool and some other problems, but i think it's a great pick for farm directives fast in coop or take a spin in ranked where there are less players so this means less focusing on her while pushing just like Pommern or other KM bbs.

At least, this has seemed to me after i saw her being used from others, i hope i didn' t have a "shining effect".

Hello. So far, it is unlikely, that dockyard ships would appear in Armory soon. Maybe in future, but nothing mentioned for now.

[RossijskijAxisFlot]

47 minuti fa, arttuperkunas ha scritto:

Odin was surprisingly good in brawls. Spotter, hydro, torps, good armor and secs. Even low hp pool not so much of an issue in 1 vs 1. Not good in randoms, I will give you that.

Yep, if we consider random environment... she is just... huhhh awful.

[Beastofwar]

4 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

Hello. So far, it is unlikely, that dockyard ships would appear in Armory soon. Maybe in future, but nothing mentioned for now.

 

Azur Lane Anchorage is only a skin for the ship ?

[Beastofwar]

These launchers let her look like a bigger version of Graf Spee

 

And besides 6x 2 128 mm ( 32-40 mm pen )  2 x  triple 150 mm ( 38-47 mm pen ) turrets with up to 11.1 km range .....i'd call that far from "useless" unless you are camping with it...and then not the ship but the player is "useless"

It is not a (Super)Cruiser so it can have a FULL secondary build meant for CQC action. And since randoms is a skilless mass camping hell, to be used in ranked or other modes where actual tactics can be used if you want to enjoy it.

 

[Panocek]

8 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

 

Azur Lane Anchorage is only a skin for the ship ?

Anchorage is about to be added to the Azur Lane, doesn't mean she will return to WoWs in any way, shape or form.

 

If there would be any new ships that would be released as part of AL collab, those would be hinted in devblog under "normal" names and overlap with AL equivalents? And there are none that would overlap with AL so far.

[totally_potato]

52 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

Odin was surprisingly good in brawls. Spotter, hydro, torps, good armor and secs. Even low hp pool not so much of an issue in 1 vs 1. Not good in randoms, I will give you that.

She was

Until the commander rework hit. The thing was, when you got into pushing in ranked (before the rework) you had good armor to protect yourself and your superstructure was not massive like GK. It was more normal. Heck I mistook it for a russian once, its that tanky 1v1/1v3. But your secs helped in 40% of the fights you took. You whittled down the enemy you were brawling with. As you were approaching, you used those secs to set fires, and do do consistent dmg, and once you got in to the proper distance, that's where your guns and torps come in. This ship would have been very good in most situations, if the secs were as good as they were before, and she had the HP pool she did before in the first iteration, and if she had the 20 sec reload. They reason they gave for the nerf, was becoz ppl were doing very well with her. They didn't consider that, only CCs and supertesters had her, and they were 7/10 decent to good players. The bad players didn't even get her yet, and it was a premium so ppl would have whaled her. Oh well.

[YabbaCoe]

20 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

 

Azur Lane Anchorage is only a skin for the ship ?

Azur Lane ships are usually standalone ships, not just skins.

[FatherTorque]

You can get Agir if you want Odin so much. I have Odin, she was my favorite BB back at the time but i always wished she had more HP and more accurate main guns. That's why Agir is the Odin i've always dreamed of. Sure, Agir lacks the BB class armor and secondaries yet i prefer more accuracy over these and not to forget faster reloads.

[arttuperkunas]

30 minutes ago, AxisMarine said:

Yep, if we consider random environment... she is just... huhhh awful.

Agreed

[arttuperkunas]

20 minutes ago, totally_potato said:

She was

Until the commander rework hit. The thing was, when you got into pushing in ranked (before the rework) you had good armor to protect yourself and your superstructure was not massive like GK. It was more normal. Heck I mistook it for a russian once, its that tanky 1v1/1v3. But your secs helped in 40% of the fights you took. You whittled down the enemy you were brawling with. As you were approaching, you used those secs to set fires, and do do consistent dmg, and once you got in to the proper distance, that's where your guns and torps come in. This ship would have been very good in most situations, if the secs were as good as they were before, and she had the HP pool she did before in the first iteration, and if she had the 20 sec reload. They reason they gave for the nerf, was becoz ppl were doing very well with her. They didn't consider that, only CCs and supertesters had her, and they were 7/10 decent to good players. The bad players didn't even get her yet, and it was a premium so ppl would have whaled her. Oh well.

Wasnt 1v1 after the rework? Imo post rework secs are still ok against other bbs, big enough target to hit.

[Beastofwar]

19 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

Wasnt 1v1 after the rework? Imo post rework secs are still ok against other bbs, big enough target to hit.

 

The secondaries still kill a full HP DD under 1 minute on their own, or within 1 main gun HE salvo plus a few seconds....if you dont camp with such ships !

 

These ships should be in torpedo range of BB using islands to get close enough. As a result you will be close enough to hit DD as well. And player skills ( contrary to camping ) will be much needed to avoid being torpedoed yourself.

[arttuperkunas]

1 minute ago, Beastofwar said:

 

They still kill DD under 1 minute on their own, or within 1 main gun HE salvo plus a few seconds....if you dont camp with such ships !

Not really, unless the dd is within like 4 km and/or not manouevring at all. I pretty much main massa at t8, full sec build, and it’s more a psychological weapon than anything against dds in normal combat conditions.

[Beastofwar]

10 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

Not really, unless the dd is within like 4 km and/or not manouevring at all. I pretty much main massa at t8, full sec build, and it’s more a psychological weapon than anything against dds in normal combat conditions.

 

Even Ise missing all her 140 mm's only takes 78 seconds at 5,5 km. That would be much faster ( under 60 seconds ) with all her 140 mm's and really fast ( instant + few seconds ) using main guns with HE.

 

And we are talking GERMAN improved secondary accuracy here.....Ise displayed here are the standard inaccurate 127 mm's.

 

Now you say actually moving matters vs an automated system.....i will have to test that, but i kill DD so often with secondaries ( i never camp...) i don't think that actually matters.....HE afterall penetrates DD at all angles. It simply does not matter were or at what range in is hit. You could even make misses hit with wild manouevring. ( LWM verdict about dazzle skill )

 

 

[arttuperkunas]

4 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

 

Even Ise missing all her 140 mm's only takes 78 seconds at 5,5 km. That would be much faster ( under 60 seconds ) with all her 140 mm's and really fast ( instant + few seconds ) using main guns with HE.

 

And we are talking GERMAN improved secondary accuracy here.....Ise displayed here are the standard inaccurate 127 mm's.

 

Now you say actually moving matters vs an automated system.....i will have to test that, but i kill DD so often with secondaries ( i never camp...) i don't think that actually matters.....HE afterall penetrates DD at all angles. It simply does not matter were or at what range in is hit. You could even make misses hit with wild manouevring. ( LWM verdict about dazzle skill )

 

 

Of course it matters if they move, secondaries are not hitscan. Slow shells with bad ballistics firing predictively in the projected path of the dd. If it manouvres, the prediction fails.

 

5,5 km is not normal engagement range. At that distance, you squash a dd with main guns or it kills you with torps.