Flint is trash

[Kiagy]

Not much more i can say to be fair, this ship is total garbage

 

and no i did not lose a game, i won the game before posting this, everything about this ship is garbage

[Cyclops_]

Sorry, but totally disagree, still needs a little buff on gun range but apart from that it is how you play her, not the ship.

[Kiagy]

2 minutes ago, Cyclops_ said:

Sorry, but totally disagree, still needs a little buff on gun range but apart from that it is how you play her, not the ship.

The ship is constantly uptiered, the dpm is poor, smoke is good but can still easily get deleted in smoke

 

This ship is simply not able to compete at T9 where it is constantly placed, the range buff was very small, the ship is very fragile for such a limited range, the shell arc is awfil also, the torps are laughable

 

I have played this ship a number of time and cannot find anything positive

 

No way is this pile of garbage above T6, and that's pushing it

[Beastofwar]

Sorry for not being entirely on topic :

 

If you already own an Atlanta ( 2 even ) does it make any sense to buy a Flint then ? Does the smoke make it different enough ?

[Cyclops_]

6 minutes ago, Mahaaret said:

The ship is constantly uptiered, the dpm is poor, smoke is good but can still easily get deleted in smoke

 

This ship is simply not able to compete at T9 where it is constantly placed, the range buff was very small, the ship is very fragile for such a limited range, the shell arc is awfil also, the torps are laughable

 

I have played this ship a number of time and cannot find anything positive

 

No way is this pile of garbage above T6, and that's pushing it

With all due respect, you only have the one smoke CL, you do not have any RN CL’s or the Smol, but you have every other premium ship going, if you want to learn how to play  the the Flint, play get like a big DD because that is the way you play her and the RN CL’s and the Smol. So the answer to your problem is to learn how to play her not moan about  how bad you do play her.

[Lootboxer]

12 minutes ago, Mahaaret said:

The ship is constantly uptiered, the dpm is poor, smoke is good but can still easily get deleted in smoke

 

This ship is simply not able to compete at T9 where it is constantly placed, the range buff was very small, the ship is very fragile for such a limited range, the shell arc is awfil also, the torps are laughable

 

I have played this ship a number of time and cannot find anything positive

 

No way is this pile of garbage above T6, and that's pushing it

Agree to most but those torps garbage? LOL Those are the same as on Benson torps, T8 DD, hitting hard and stealthily. Flint is hard to play well, positioning is crucial, using island cover is better then relying on smoke and range can be a big issue on some maps vs T9s but it's not a bigger garbage then most of t7 cruises. MM is terrible for them all. 

[Kiagy]

4 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

Sorry for not being entirely on topic :

 

If you already own an Atlanta ( 2 even ) does it make any sense to buy a Flint then ? Does the smoke make it different enough ?

It was a mistake buying Flint, imo it is way off the Atlanta, my first impression was that Flint was mostly the same except it has smoke instead of radar,

 

Atlanta has 2 more turrets, faster torps

 

Atlanta also has more hit points and and 13.3 firing range

 

Massive nerfs for the sake of having smoke instead of radar

 

I survived my last game, very low hp and very lucky, i can honestly say i rarely see a Flint last 10 minutes

 

 

No way would i have paid so much coal for this if i had realised the differences to Atlanta

 

 

Uptiering this ship so often just kills it

[SeaWolf7]

22 hours ago, Mahaaret said:

The ship is constantly uptiered,

 

 

 

22 hours ago, DariusJacek said:

 

MM is terrible for them all. 

See this is what annoys me a bit about Wg and there premium mentality.....they argue that premiums are not necessarily better just different so why do most of them get heavily uptired (in my experience) wich leads to a somewhat lack luster performance in most cases giving a general negative customer view /experience of Premiums (not all...Yes Jean im looking at you)) and something they have just parted hard cold cash with. Not to mention having the right to change them afterwards because...dam we got them wrong on release.?

Just weird business practice imo.

 

[Kiagy]

15 minutes ago, Cyclops_ said:

With all due respect, you only have the one smoke CL, you do not have any RN CL’s or the Smol, but you have every other premium ship going, if you want to learn how to play  the the Flint, play get like a big DD because that is the way you play her and the RN CL’s and the Smol. So the answer to your problem is to learn how to play her not moan about  how bad you do play her.

This may be the problem, but im done with this ship, binned

[Kiagy]

Make no mistake, i am in no way a good cruiser player, but at the least i expect the ship to be competent, i honestly find the Flint a pile of trash in its current state, maybe its just not for me, but uptiering this ship is madness

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

7 minutes ago, Mahaaret said:

This may be the problem, but im done with this ship, binned

The Flint definitely isn't garbage, I played a few battles right after the captain rework and despite WGs refusal to bring it back to what it was before I was able to perform well. It was annoying, but doable nevertheless. I do agree with you on MM, the ship is absolutely unfun in tier ix heavy environment, which is an unneeded MM and meta problem. One of many gameplay problems this developer self inflicts.

[SeaWolf7]

 

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Mahaaret said:

Make no mistake, i am in no way a good cruiser player, but at the least i expect the ship to be competent, i honestly find the Flint a pile of trash in its current state, maybe its just not for me, but uptiering this ship is madness

 

3 minutes ago, Mahaaret said:

This may be the problem, but im done with this ship, binned

 

 

Mate i would just say that she is not suited to your playstyle tbh. I played her a few times on a friends account and as @Cyclops_ said she is very RNL cl style play so....but i agree the tiering can compound the issue

 

[Kiagy]

1 minute ago, Europizza said:

The Flint definitely isn't garbage, I played a few battles right after the captain rework and despite WGs refusal to bring it back to what it was before I was able to perform well. It was annoying, but doable nevertheless. I do agree with you on MM, the ship is absolutely unfun in tier ix heavy environment, which is an unneeded MM and meta problem. One of many gameplay problems this developer self inflicts.

I agree uptiering the ship is a problem, there is no fun at all in taking this ship 2 tiers above its capabilities

 

One salvo = deleted

[SeaWolf7]

4 minutes ago, Mahaaret said:

 

One salvo = deleted

= General cruiser play issue atm thanks to BB overpopulation and power creep.

[___V_E_N_O_M___]

1 hour ago, Cyclops_ said:

With all due respect, you only have the one smoke CL, you do not have any RN CL’s or the Smol, but you have every other premium ship going, if you want to learn how to play  the the Flint, play get like a big DD because that is the way you play her and the RN CL’s and the Smol. So the answer to your problem is to learn how to play her not moan about  how bad you do play her.

I can confirm that is smol is better than flint

[ColonelPete]

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20210605/eu_2month/average_ship_u.html

 

And most of these battles were made with shorter range.

[Verblonde]

2 hours ago, Mahaaret said:

im done with this ship, binned

I'm rubbish with cruisers, and I do find Flint especially hard work in Randoms, even by my usual standards; that said, she's still worth playing - I get quite good value from mine in Narai and Coop (missions) instead of Randoms.

 

 

[Lootboxer]

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20210605/eu_2month/average_ship_u.html

 

And most of these battles were made with shorter range.

For a premium ship given only to the very best players ranking 3 times for a long time, then available to veterans only for steel (on the top competing with the likes of Stalin, Burgo, Black etc) and only recently sold for coal but overpriced for what it is it 52% WR looks pretty bad to be honest. Powercreept badly in recent years, effective DPM nerf with IFHE rework, AA massacred with CV rework,, now range cut plus facing all those T9 monsters.

Indianapolis looks terrible, forgotten by WG cr@p.

[ColonelPete]

21 minutes ago, DariusJacek said:

For a premium ship given only to the very best players ranking 3 times for a long time, then available to veterans only for steel (on the top competing with the likes of Stalin, Burgo, Black etc) and only recently sold for coal but overpriced for what it is it 52% WR looks pretty bad to be honest. Powercreept badly in recent years, effective DPM nerf with IFHE rework, AA massacred with CV rework,, now range cut plus facing all those T9 monsters.

Indianapolis looks terrible, forgotten by WG cr@p.

That was a long time ago. Considering this, she looks quite balanced.

[Andrewbassg]

5 hours ago, Mahaaret said:

Not much more i can say to be fair, this ship is total garbage

 

and no i did not lose a game, i won the game before posting this, everything about this ship is garbage

Well...not in Narai. But yes in PvP.

[totally_potato]

4 hours ago, Mahaaret said:

Not much more i can say to be fair, this ship is total garbage

 

and no i did not lose a game, i won the game before posting this, everything about this ship is garbage

what's the point of this thread again?? Like do you want us to prove the contrary or something?

[KratosTheUnforgiving]

Flint is a good ship, that WarGambling made a lot from and then nerf'd her, to compensate for the so called "no.s" in the game, how often did you see her, not often. Just an underhanded and disgusting trick by the scum at WG HQ, no doubt to be repeated many times in the future.

[ollonborre]

Flint is not in a great spot, but in the current game I would much rather be in a Flint than an Atlanta. The smoke just gives you that many more options, and coupled with the long range torps you are never really lacking in the same way that Atlanta can. And while it does have 2 turrets less, in practical terms it's 1 less turrets as you can't use all turrets at the same time in the Atlanta anyways which means the DPM difference is neglible. 

 

And with the latest patch the range went up again to 12.4 km, so it's slowly creeping up towards it's AFT range. So who knows, it might get all its range back in a bit.

[Lootboxer]

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

hat was a long time ago. Considering this, she looks quite balanced.

 

So you are saying those people forgot how to play???

Or that all those 45% noobs and/or neewbies wasted all the coal on meh and overpriced T7 premium instead of T9s and are bringing stats down now?

Ok, whatever...

 

[ColonelPete]

16 minutes ago, DariusJacek said:

 

So you are saying those people forgot how to play???

Or that all those 45% noobs and/or neewbies wasted all the coal on meh and overpriced T7 premium instead of T9s and are bringing stats down now?

Ok, whatever...

 

Nope. The ratio of good players got certainly lower over time and the change of her range removed her overperformance.