Can WG themselves give an explanation how taking ( combinations of ) AA skills and modules should be attractive ?

[Beastofwar]

Here in EU forums but also on NA forums ( and i assume all forums ) players are rolling over the floor fighting with words ( and insults, stat shaming and whatnot ) over planes in the game.

 

It is obvious with so many modules, AA enhancing skills in commander skill trees, slots which can be equipped  with DFAA and choices wether or not to equip a fighter or spotter consumable must have some effect are are not "noob traps" as some claim.

 

Can there be an explanation by WG how the WG devs responsible for the design of AA  envision how AA  interacts with all the AA enhancing options. ...explain to us what is then supposed to happen if you enhance AA with certain combinations of skills and modules. As that seems to be such a big puzzle very few are even trying but masses are complaining !

 

Many players are angry because they cannot counter FDR spotting ( even at the "higest level of play" or so they claim ) .....so how do you counter FDR spotting ?

 

Please @YabbaCoe  ( i realise this is a daunting task ) @Crysantos @MrConway@Tanatoy correct this far too long festering issue ! 

 

And please not refer to an older "how to" video that was already released  or https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Anti-Aircraft_Fire : it is obvious that was not clarifying anyting to the mulittude of angry players at all. Or are these modules, skills and consumbales indeed "noob traps" and those that want to use them fools ?

 

 

[Prophecy82]

Read!

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Anti-Aircraft_Fire

[ColonelPete]

They stated this multiple times. It should be known to you.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

Most players understand the AA design perfectly well. It's crap and smart players simply can't be bothered to polish a turd. The rest fall into forementioned trap. As you can tell from the last 2 years, Lesta is still struggeling with it's own failure. Well, you could. If you actually understood what's going on.

[MementoMori_6030]

"Why is AAA designed to be barely more than a visual effect?"

[Beastofwar]

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Read!

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Anti-Aircraft_Fire

 

You dont accept it !

 

And it also does not explain how picking modules and commander skills is attractive  over just having stock AA, why anyone should do that.

 

So you seem to not understand what i was asking.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

10 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

 

You dont accept it !

 

So you seem to not understand what i was asking.

Looking at your activity burst it seems you might have a hard time accepting a few things here and there. People have different experiences and skillsets. Let it go. Like AA, we all understand what you are asking here. They won't magically help you prevent from drowning yourself in the sea of nonsense you created these last few weeks. Focus on the positive without resorting to nasty all the time. Just let it go man.

[MrWastee]

took longer than expected ^^... here we go....

 

[Prophecy82]

14 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

 

You dont accept it !

Accept what?

 

 

14 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

And it also does not explain how picking modules and commander skills is attractive  over just having stock AA, why anyone should do that.

The commander skills do exactly what is described. Or is there any skill that is as shady as dazzle?

 

 

14 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

So you seem to not understand what i was asking.

Apparently not.

 

[Profilus]

24 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

fighting with words ( and insults, stat shaming and whatnot ) over planes in the game

Buuuut....

On 6/15/2021 at 12:54 AM, Beastofwar said:

Im done talking about planes.....enjoy the game as it is and how it will become...or not. Your problem.

 

 

23 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

It is obvious with so many modules, AA enhancing skills in commander skill trees, slots which can be equipped  with DFAA and choices wether or not to equip a fighter or spotter consumable must have some effect are are not "noob traps" as some claim.

And this buuuuuut

On 6/13/2021 at 1:57 PM, Beastofwar said:

Your question how many of my ships have AA skills ?  Only 1 : Minotaur...as it has limited other skill options as it shoots only light AP.

 

[Fat_Maniac]

[Beastofwar]

Reactions as these is the exact reason why i was asking.

 

Why have players that enjoy CV must be mauled, rediculed and herassed by angry anti-plane mobs on forums while they are not at fault playing an available class ?  And that is not limited to forums at all.....being reported or even TK'ed for just playing CV is not uncommon at all.

 

And you can stop right there claiming "you bring that on yourself" as you chased off each and every player that is positive about CV play ( and not kicking against it also under some mindbending guise )

[Bratoev]

21 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

 

You dont accept it !

 

And it also does not explain how picking modules and commander skills is attractive  over just having stock AA, why anyone should do that.

 

So you seem to not understand what i was asking.

Okay I'll play ball. The reason is the same as I told you in another thread. The benefits are negligible on anything apart from a very small selection of ships and the lack of CVs in all games renders these skills a straight up downside in a build.

 

[MrWastee]

2 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

Reactions as these is the exact reason why i was asking.

 

Why have players that enjoy CV must be mauled, rediculed and herassed by angry anti-plane mobs on forums while they are not at fault playing an available class ?  And that is not limited to forums at all.....being reported or even TK'ed is not uncommon at all.

oh, that's only for clueless selling wisdom. btw, it isnt connected to planes or cv's either

[Profilus]

2 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

or even TK'ed is not uncommon at all

As you should know, this part of cv fun goes to customer support, not here.

[Prophecy82]

4 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

Reactions as these is the exact reason why i was asking.

 

Why have players that enjoy CV must be mauled, rediculed and herassed by angry anti-plane mobs on forums while they are not at fault playing an available class ?  And that is not limited to forums at all.....being reported or even TK'ed is not uncommon at all.

 

Sorry, but what exactly is the problem with the link I provided for you? 

It gives all the necessary Infos. Knowing how it works lets you decide if it is worth to take skills/modules on your ships. 

Note that there is no generalisation bcs. pretty much every ship has different AA values and Auras. 

So pick your ship, do the math and decide if its worth to invest into AA... there is no other way. Welcome to WoWs.

[Profilus]

1 minute ago, Prophecy82 said:

So pick your ship, do the math and decide if its worth to invest into AA

He knows its not worth it. He just wants others to invest in them for some reason.

[Beastofwar]

11 minutes ago, Bratoev said:

and the lack of CVs in all games renders these skills a straight up downside in a build.

 

 

So one of the answers WG could give is their bringing more planes into the game is in part meant to solve  that, making AA skills and modules more attractive or more valuable.

 

I cannot imagine the purpose of bringing more planes in the game is to merely anger a large part of their player base. But WG communications to what their intention is, are sparse.

[159Hunter]

6 minutes ago, Profilus said:

 some reason.

By luring others into bringing subpar ships BoW hopes to improve his stats.

[Prophecy82]

4 minutes ago, 159Hunter said:

By luring others into bringing subpar ships BoW hopes to improve his stats.

 

Too much of a big brain move to be true, sorry. 

[Profilus]

9 minutes ago, 159Hunter said:

By luring others into bringing subpar ships BoW hopes to improve his stats.

Was thinking the same but @Prophecy82 has a point there.

[Camperdown]

12 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

 

So one of the answers WG could give is their bringing more planes into the game is in part meant to solve  that, making AA skills and modules more attractive or more valuable.

 

I cannot imagine the purpose of bringing more planes in the game is to merely anger a large part of their player base. But WG communications to what their intention is, are sparse.

WG communications about their intentions are sparse for a very simple reason. They intend to lure inexperienced players into spending as much as possible on their game. As in any con trick, this only works if your intentions remain hidden.

[Beastofwar]

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Sorry, but what exactly is the problem with the link I provided for you? 

 

The very first thing visible on that page perhaps ?

 

[Prophecy82]

4 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

 

The very first thing visible on that page perhaps ?

 

Read closely:

How it works VIDEO

 

Also: "read the text below...."

 

 

Next time, read closely before trying smth funny. 

 

[Fat_Maniac]

36 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

I cannot imagine the purpose of bringing more planes in the game is to merely anger a large part of their player base. But WG communications to what their intention is, are sparse.

More planes is so they can sell us the solution. The odd tier CV models brought back as a fleet support CV with fighters. Those fighters need something in every game to counter or they have no use.