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Proposal: Usable battlecruiser designs as Premiums

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          So let me start by saying thanks for anyone actually liked my proposals, This will be one of my last proposals as i decided to stop playing WoWs after testing Elbing and Hannover. Here i'll be bringing you some unused battlecruiser designs that can fit to respected tiers such as Revised version of B65, Sevastopol and O42 class battlecruisers. After this i'll be making last proposal of mine and will move to other games.

 

B65 Revised by Tzoli

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Revised B65 is first ship we are gonna talk about, 2 ships can be made with this design similar to Azuma and Yoshino, as a concept they get 356 mm guns but with destroyer accuracy rest is same as their 310 mm using sisters.

T9 Version

Details

  • Tier:-9(IX)
  • Class:-B65 class
  • HP:-58,300

Armaments and shells

  • 3 x dual 356 mm/45 41st year type
  • Max range:- 19 km
  • Reload:-22 seconds
  • 180° turret rotation time:- 36 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 159 meters
  • Sigma:- 2.05
  • AP damage:- 10,200
  • Shell travel time:- 775 m/s
  • HE damage:- 5,700
  • HE shell penetration:- 59 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 25%
  • Shell travel time:- 805 m/s
  • 8 x dual 100 mm/65 type 98
  • base range:- 6.95 km
  • Reload:-3 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 427 meters
  • Sigma:- 1.0
  • HE damage:- 1,700
  • HE shell penetration:- 30 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 6%
  • Shell travel time:- 1000 m/s

Maneuverability

  • Speed:- 34 knots
  • Turning circle radius:- 920 meters
  • Rudder shift time:- 13.9 seconds

Concealment

  • Surface detectibility:- 15.1 km
  • Air detectibility:- 10.7 km
  • Detectibility after firing in smoke:- 9 km

T10 Version

 

Details

  • Tier:-10(X)
  • Class:-B65 class
  • HP:-61,800

Armaments and shells

  • 3 x dual 356 mm/45 41st year type
  • Max range:- 21.3 km
  • Reload:-20 seconds
  • 180° turret rotation time:- 36 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 159 meters
  • Sigma:- 2.05
  • AP damage:- 10,200
  • Shell travel time:- 775 m/s
  • HE damage:- 5,700
  • HE shell penetration:- 59 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 25%
  • Shell travel time:- 805 m/s
  • 8 x dual 100 mm/65 type 98
  • base range:- 6.95 km
  • Reload:-3 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 427 meters
  • Sigma:- 1.0
  • HE damage:- 1,700
  • HE shell penetration:- 30 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 6%
  • Shell travel time:- 1000 m/s
  • 4 x 4 610 mm torps 20 km and 12 km options

Maneuverability

  • Speed:- 34 knots
  • Turning circle radius:- 920 meters
  • Rudder shift time:- 13.9 seconds

Concealment

  • Surface detectibility:- 15.1 km
  • Air detectibility:- 10.7 km
  • Detectibility after firing in smoke:- 9 km

 

Russian Kronshtadt's sister, Sevastopol

Sevastopol.thumb.jpg.fffc446ba0cad3eb683bc18a4d2f5d01.jpg

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Sevastopol is sister to already existing ships alternative plan, Before German invasion Russian's was constructing Kron and her sister but due to material shortage and weak metals they couldn't make 305 mm guns so they asked Germans if they can get 380 mm guns and they got approval so they redesigned Kron and Sevastopol a bit to fit them with 6 380 mm guns. In game this is just Kron with German flavor. There's no T10 version unless WG makes more fantasy version of this.

 

Sevastopol

 

Details

  • Tier:-9(IX)
  • Class:-Kronshtadt class
  • HP:-71,050

Armaments and shells

  • 3 x dual 380 mm/52 SK C/34
  • Max range:- 19 km
  • Reload:-26 seconds
  • 180° turret rotation time:- 36 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 163 meters
  • Sigma:- 2.05
  • AP damage:- 11,600
  • Shell travel time:- 820 m/s
  • HE damage:- 4,400
  • HE shell penetration:- 95 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 34%
  • Shell travel time:- 820 m/s
  • 4 x dual 100 mm/56 B-54
  • base range:- 6.95 km
  • Reload:-3.75 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 427 meters
  • Sigma:- 1.0
  • HE damage:- 1,400
  • HE shell penetration:- 17 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 6%
  • Shell travel time:- 875 m/s
  • 4 x dual 152 mm/57 B-38 
  • base range:- 6.95 km
  • Reload:-8 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 427 meters
  • Sigma:- 1.0
  • HE damage:- 2,200
  • HE shell penetration:- 25 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 12%
  • Shell travel time:- 950 m/s
  •  

Maneuverability

  • Speed:- 33.5 knots
  • Turning circle radius:- 840 meters
  • Rudder shift time:- 14.9 seconds

Concealment

  • Surface detectibility:- 16.2 km
  • Air detectibility:- 10.4 km
  • Detectibility after firing in smoke:- 13 km

 

O42 Battlecruiser design

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587175129_O42modified.thumb.png.fb546ff116d5d5333890593ecb8c6bce.png

 

O42 design is very heavy, It's basically Bismarck class battleship but larger, It's so heavy that i have to alter its displacement (like how WG does to some other ships)to make it fit T10. In terms of armor it's similar to those of Battleship Bismarck. It has 8 380 mm guns, secondaries are also similar but i modified the design like Siegfried.

 

  • Displacement: 44,000 t
  • Dimensions: 268/36.5/17,8
  • Speed: 30 knots
  • Armor:

590607742_O42armorlayout.thumb.png.1ff9ce3301c237bf71b379868028e729.png

  • 4 x dual 380 mm L/52 SK C/34 
  • 12 x dual 128 mm L/61 KM/40
  • 2 x quad 533 mm torpedo launcher
  • 12 x qual 20 mm Flak 38
  • 10 x dual 55 mm Gerat 58 

 

Details

  • Tier:-10(X)
  • Class:-O42 class Battlecruiser(BC)
  • HP:-74,500
  • overall armor:-19mm~300 mm
  • Torpedo protection damage reduction:-32%

Armaments and shells

  • 4 x dual 380 mm L/52 SK C/34
  • Max range:- 21 km
  • Reload:-26 seconds
  • 180° turret rotation time:- 36 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 182 meters
  • Sigma:- 2.05
  • AP damage:- 11,600
  • Shell travel time:- 820 m/s
  • HE damage:- 4,400
  • HE shell penetration:- 96 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 34%
  • Shell travel time:- 820 m/s
  • 12 x dual 128 mm L/61 KM/40
  • base range:- 8.3 km
  • Reload:-3.6 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 504 meters
  • Sigma:- 1.0
  • HE damage:- 1,500
  • HE shell penetration:- 32 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 5%
  • Shell travel time:- 900 m/s

Torpedos

  • 2 quad 533 mm Torpedo with 6 km range similar to other German cruisers

Anti-air

  • 10 x dual 55 mm Gerät 58 vierling
  • 12 x quad 20 mm Flakvierling 38
  • Avarage continues damage:- 412 per second
  • Number of explosion:- 8
  • Damage of explosion:- 1540
  • AA starting range:- 6 km

Maneuverability

  • Speed:- 30 knots
  • Turning circle radius:- 1050 meters
  • Rudder shift time:- 15.1 seconds

Concealment

  • Surface detectibility:- 16.5 km
  • Air detectibility:- 14.4 km
  • Detectibility after firing in smoke:- 14 km

Consumables

  • Box standard German CA consumable.

 

 

 

Alternative O42 class battlecruiser

1711665451_O42305mmmod.thumb.png.885de140999c2b171dff347e583534d5.png

This is alternative version of O42 just like Agir, she has no catapult and lower range but she is built for close range brawling.

 

  • Displacement: 44,000 t
  • Dimensions: 268/36.5/17,8
  • Speed: 30 knots
  • Armor:

590607742_O42armorlayout.thumb.png.1ff9ce3301c237bf71b379868028e729.png

  • 4 x Triple 305 mm L/52 SK C/34
  • 14 x dual 128 mm L/61 KM/40
  • 4 x quad 533 mm torpedo launcher
  • 16 x qual 20 mm Flak 38
  • 13 x dual 55 mm Gerat 58 
  • Details

  • Tier:-10(X)
  • Class:-O42 class Battlecruiser(BC)
  • HP:-74,500
  • overall armor:-19mm~300 mm
  • Torpedo protection damage reduction:-32%
  • Armaments and shells

  • 4 x Triple 305 mm L/52 SK C/34
  • Max range:- 19 km
  • Reload:-23 seconds
  • 180° turret rotation time:- 30 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 261 meters
  • Sigma:- 2.00
  • AP damage:- 9,100
  • Shell travel time:- 865 m/s
  • HE damage:- 3,600
  • HE shell penetration:- 76 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 27%
  • Shell travel time:- 865 m/s
  • 14 x dual 128 mm L/61 KM/40
  • base range:- 8.3 km
  • Reload:-3.6 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 504 meters
  • Sigma:- 1.0
  • HE damage:- 1,500
  • HE shell penetration:- 32 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 5%
  • Shell travel time:- 900 m/s
  • Torpedos

  • 4 quad 533 mm Torpedo with 6 km range similar to other German cruisers
  • Anti-air

  • 13 x dual 55 mm Gerät 58 vierling
  • 16 x quad 20 mm Flakvierling 38
  • Avarage continues damage:- 479 per second
  • Number of explosion:- 10
  • Damage of explosion:- 1540
  • AA starting range:- 6 km
  • Maneuverability

  • Speed:- 30 knots
  • Turning circle radius:- 1050 meters
  • Rudder shift time:- 15.1 seconds
  • Concealment

  • Surface detectibility:- 16.5 km
  • Air detectibility:- 14.4 km
  • Detectibility after firing in smoke:- 14 km
  • Consumables

  • Box standard German CA consumable. No catapult meaning no fighter or spotter. No DFAA.

 

These are the battlecruiser plans or designs that can be added, I'll be resting before making a small rework plan on German CAs and making pocket BB line. Cya later.

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10 minutes ago, CaptainKreutzer said:

i decided to stop playing WoWs after testing Elbing and Hannover.

 

Why? 

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Just now, Miragetank90 said:

 

Why? 

WG to me atleast making game worse, each rework feels just backwards especially lately i found no fun in this game. CVs, Hybrids, Commander rework and now Subs. All these just made the game pain for me instead of being fun.

 

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12 minutes ago, CaptainKreutzer said:

WG to me atleast making game worse, each rework feels just backwards especially lately i found no fun in this game. CVs, Hybrids, Commander rework and now Subs. All these just made the game pain for me instead of being fun.

 

You can come join me spamming coop for hours to regrind our previously maxed out captains if you want! :Smile-_tongue:

But I get it, sir :Smile_honoring:

And nice designs. It's just too bad there isn't really a fun gamemode to play with these ships.

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On 6/14/2021 at 4:25 PM, CaptainKreutzer said:

          So let me start by saying thanks for anyone actually liked my proposals, This will be one of my last proposals as i decided to stop playing WoWs after testing Elbing and Hannover. Here i'll be bringing you some unused battlecruiser designs that can fit to respected tiers such as Revised version of B65, Sevastopol and O42 class battlecruisers. After this i'll be making last proposal of mine and will move to other games.

 

B65 Revised by Tzoli

Fuji.thumb.png.ee8c5d00ee78e24c97e222b83d9a167a.png

 

Revised B65 is first ship we are gonna talk about, 2 ships can be made with this design similar to Azuma and Yoshino, as a concept they get 356 mm guns but with destroyer accuracy rest is same as their 310 mm using sisters.

T9 Version

Details

  • Tier:-9(IX)
  • Class:-B65 class
  • HP:-58,300

Armaments and shells

  • 3 x dual 356 mm/45 41st year type
  • Max range:- 19 km
  • Reload:-22 seconds
  • 180° turret rotation time:- 36 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 159 meters
  • Sigma:- 2.05
  • AP damage:- 10,200
  • Shell travel time:- 775 m/s
  • HE damage:- 5,700
  • HE shell penetration:- 59 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 25%
  • Shell travel time:- 805 m/s
  • 8 x dual 100 mm/65 type 98
  • base range:- 6.95 km
  • Reload:-3 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 427 meters
  • Sigma:- 1.0
  • HE damage:- 1,700
  • HE shell penetration:- 30 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 6%
  • Shell travel time:- 1000 m/s

Maneuverability

  • Speed:- 34 knots
  • Turning circle radius:- 920 meters
  • Rudder shift time:- 13.9 seconds

Concealment

  • Surface detectibility:- 15.1 km
  • Air detectibility:- 10.7 km
  • Detectibility after firing in smoke:- 9 km

T10 Version

 

Details

  • Tier:-10(X)
  • Class:-B65 class
  • HP:-61,800

Armaments and shells

  • 3 x dual 356 mm/45 41st year type
  • Max range:- 21.3 km
  • Reload:-20 seconds
  • 180° turret rotation time:- 36 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 159 meters
  • Sigma:- 2.05
  • AP damage:- 10,200
  • Shell travel time:- 775 m/s
  • HE damage:- 5,700
  • HE shell penetration:- 59 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 25%
  • Shell travel time:- 805 m/s
  • 8 x dual 100 mm/65 type 98
  • base range:- 6.95 km
  • Reload:-3 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 427 meters
  • Sigma:- 1.0
  • HE damage:- 1,700
  • HE shell penetration:- 30 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 6%
  • Shell travel time:- 1000 m/s
  • 4 x 4 610 mm torps 20 km and 12 km options

Maneuverability

  • Speed:- 34 knots
  • Turning circle radius:- 920 meters
  • Rudder shift time:- 13.9 seconds

Concealment

  • Surface detectibility:- 15.1 km
  • Air detectibility:- 10.7 km
  • Detectibility after firing in smoke:- 9 km

 

Russian Kronshtadt's sister, Sevastopol

Sevastopol.thumb.jpg.fffc446ba0cad3eb683bc18a4d2f5d01.jpg

1397670554_0_ee396_b9c75db3_xxxl.jpg.038c901f1bcecf7c93a25324c85b8070.jpg

Sevastopol is sister to already existing ships alternative plan, Before German invasion Russian's was constructing Kron and her sister but due to material shortage and weak metals they couldn't make 305 mm guns so they asked Germans if they can get 380 mm guns and they got approval so they redesigned Kron and Sevastopol a bit to fit them with 6 380 mm guns. In game this is just Kron with German flavor. There's no T10 version unless WG makes more fantasy version of this.

 

Sevastopol

 

Details

  • Tier:-9(IX)
  • Class:-Kronshtadt class
  • HP:-71,050

Armaments and shells

  • 3 x dual 380 mm/52 SK C/34
  • Max range:- 19 km
  • Reload:-26 seconds
  • 180° turret rotation time:- 36 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 163 meters
  • Sigma:- 2.05
  • AP damage:- 11,600
  • Shell travel time:- 820 m/s
  • HE damage:- 4,400
  • HE shell penetration:- 95 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 34%
  • Shell travel time:- 820 m/s
  • 4 x dual 100 mm/56 B-54
  • base range:- 6.95 km
  • Reload:-3.75 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 427 meters
  • Sigma:- 1.0
  • HE damage:- 1,400
  • HE shell penetration:- 17 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 6%
  • Shell travel time:- 875 m/s
  • 4 x dual 152 mm/57 B-38 
  • base range:- 6.95 km
  • Reload:-8 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 427 meters
  • Sigma:- 1.0
  • HE damage:- 2,200
  • HE shell penetration:- 25 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 12%
  • Shell travel time:- 950 m/s
  •  

Maneuverability

  • Speed:- 33.5 knots
  • Turning circle radius:- 840 meters
  • Rudder shift time:- 14.9 seconds

Concealment

  • Surface detectibility:- 16.2 km
  • Air detectibility:- 10.4 km
  • Detectibility after firing in smoke:- 13 km

 

O42 Battlecruiser design

image0.thumb.png.2d30368317ad2cbc4e99d1dcbcc3d80d.png

587175129_O42modified.thumb.png.fb546ff116d5d5333890593ecb8c6bce.png

 

O42 design is very heavy, It's basically Bismarck class battleship but larger, It's so heavy that i have to alter its displacement (like how WG does to some other ships)to make it fit T10. In terms of armor it's similar to those of Battleship Bismarck. It has 8 380 mm guns, secondaries are also similar but i modified the design like Siegfried.

 

  • Displacement: 44,000 t
  • Dimensions: 268/36.5/17,8
  • Speed: 30 knots
  • Armor:

590607742_O42armorlayout.thumb.png.1ff9ce3301c237bf71b379868028e729.png

  • 4 x dual 380 mm L/52 SK C/34 
  • 12 x dual 128 mm L/61 KM/40
  • 2 x quad 533 mm torpedo launcher
  • 12 x qual 20 mm Flak 38
  • 10 x dual 55 mm Gerat 58 

 

Details

  • Tier:-10(X)
  • Class:-O42 class Battlecruiser(BC)
  • HP:-74,500
  • overall armor:-19mm~300 mm
  • Torpedo protection damage reduction:-32%

Armaments and shells

  • 4 x dual 380 mm L/52 SK C/34
  • Max range:- 21 km
  • Reload:-26 seconds
  • 180° turret rotation time:- 36 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 182 meters
  • Sigma:- 2.05
  • AP damage:- 11,600
  • Shell travel time:- 820 m/s
  • HE damage:- 4,400
  • HE shell penetration:- 96 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 34%
  • Shell travel time:- 820 m/s
  • 12 x dual 128 mm L/61 KM/40
  • base range:- 8.3 km
  • Reload:-3.6 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 504 meters
  • Sigma:- 1.0
  • HE damage:- 1,500
  • HE shell penetration:- 32 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 5%
  • Shell travel time:- 900 m/s

Torpedos

  • 2 quad 533 mm Torpedo with 6 km range similar to other German cruisers

Anti-air

  • 10 x dual 55 mm Gerät 58 vierling
  • 12 x quad 20 mm Flakvierling 38
  • Avarage continues damage:- 412 per second
  • Number of explosion:- 8
  • Damage of explosion:- 1540
  • AA starting range:- 6 km

Maneuverability

  • Speed:- 30 knots
  • Turning circle radius:- 1050 meters
  • Rudder shift time:- 15.1 seconds

Concealment

  • Surface detectibility:- 16.5 km
  • Air detectibility:- 14.4 km
  • Detectibility after firing in smoke:- 14 km

Consumables

  • Box standard German CA consumable.

 

 

 

Alternative O42 class battlecruiser

1711665451_O42305mmmod.thumb.png.885de140999c2b171dff347e583534d5.png

This is alternative version of O42 just like Agir, she has no catapult and lower range but she is built for close range brawling.

 

  • Displacement: 44,000 t
  • Dimensions: 268/36.5/17,8
  • Speed: 30 knots
  • Armor:

590607742_O42armorlayout.thumb.png.1ff9ce3301c237bf71b379868028e729.png

  • 4 x Triple 305 mm L/52 SK C/34
  • 14 x dual 128 mm L/61 KM/40
  • 4 x quad 533 mm torpedo launcher
  • 16 x qual 20 mm Flak 38
  • 13 x dual 55 mm Gerat 58 
  • Details

  • Tier:-10(X)
  • Class:-O42 class Battlecruiser(BC)
  • HP:-74,500
  • overall armor:-19mm~300 mm
  • Torpedo protection damage reduction:-32%
  • Armaments and shells

  • 4 x Triple 305 mm L/52 SK C/34
  • Max range:- 19 km
  • Reload:-23 seconds
  • 180° turret rotation time:- 30 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 261 meters
  • Sigma:- 2.00
  • AP damage:- 9,100
  • Shell travel time:- 865 m/s
  • HE damage:- 3,600
  • HE shell penetration:- 76 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 27%
  • Shell travel time:- 865 m/s
  • 14 x dual 128 mm L/61 KM/40
  • base range:- 8.3 km
  • Reload:-3.6 seconds
  • Maximum dispersion:- 504 meters
  • Sigma:- 1.0
  • HE damage:- 1,500
  • HE shell penetration:- 32 mm
  • Chances of causing fire:- 5%
  • Shell travel time:- 900 m/s
  • Torpedos

  • 4 quad 533 mm Torpedo with 6 km range similar to other German cruisers
  • Anti-air

  • 13 x dual 55 mm Gerät 58 vierling
  • 16 x quad 20 mm Flakvierling 38
  • Avarage continues damage:- 479 per second
  • Number of explosion:- 10
  • Damage of explosion:- 1540
  • AA starting range:- 6 km
  • Maneuverability

  • Speed:- 30 knots
  • Turning circle radius:- 1050 meters
  • Rudder shift time:- 15.1 seconds
  • Concealment

  • Surface detectibility:- 16.5 km
  • Air detectibility:- 14.4 km
  • Detectibility after firing in smoke:- 14 km
  • Consumables

  • Box standard German CA consumable. No catapult meaning no fighter or spotter. No DFAA.

 

These are the battlecruiser plans or designs that can be added, I'll be resting before making a small rework plan on German CAs and making pocket BB line. Cya later.

why not 8km torps and and proper secondaries? Maybe Siegfried like accuracy on main guns but siegfried like armor instead of Bismarck like armor?

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