An end to friendly fire.. I have read that right haven't I?

[Migantium_Mashum]

I really hope that I have read this incorrectly, From 0.10.5 friendly fire is removed.

 

How dumbed down is this game going to get?

 

The chance of getting a friendly fire penalty ensures to a degree that your allies will in the majority attempt to play in a beneficial manner for the team.

With the absence of the penalty I think that this game becomes more ____________________________ (Insert Word(s) here)_______________ as the days move along.

 

There have to be penalties for accidentally or deliberately hitting your allies...

 

 

 

 

[Zigiran]

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/general-news/combat-discipline/

 

If you have fully read it:

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If the player continues to fire at allies and scores 40 hits on the same ship or 50 hits on different ships in a single battle, they will be issued a warning. Their nickname will turn pink.

There is still a penalty for friendly fire.

And the penalty is huge:

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The player who receives a warning won't earn any XP or Credits in that battle.

And there is ofc still this like it is now:

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When a warning is issued to a player, friendly fire penalty is applied. The perpetrator receives damage in response for landing further hits on allies. The amount of damage inflicted by the friendly fire penalty depends on the perpetrator's current HP and grows with each new hit on an allied ship.

 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

This game is not a shooter, it's a looter with participation tokens.

[ThePurpleSmurf]

Good change, actually excellent change! How often couldn't i torp enemy ships because some "teammate" decide to yolo in and tries to ram with a squishy cruiser or low HP BB. All too often it was mostly certain that they will die before the ram or a drive-by could happen but because of this nothing could be done against a pushing enemy BB. Of course i can not torp in such a situation, but my "ally" goes down anyway and now i'm in trouble too or his crappy dead body blocks my torps now. All too often i can not flood a cap at game start to flush out enemy DDs, because an "ally" DD decides to move his [edited]right in front of me or has the course to cross my torp route. This happens very often with e.g. Shima players that have a much longer reload than me playing e.g. Gearing or Halland, so they sit there and wait for their reload and block other players (MY!) torp path. From 0.10.5 it is screw you, i torp anyway and don't care if i turn pink!

 

Update

Pretty sure this change is made because of Subs. So many potatoes will torp somewhere and then try to ping enemy ships to activate the homing feature. Too bad if an ally ship is between the homing torps and the enemy ship.

[Beastofwar]

Dumbed down maybe but it did nothing but intentionally or unintentionaly TK players. Or render them unfit for combat.

 

Funny if you are the enemy team, but not fair.

 

Good riddance. Realism is only good for serious players......and that is not what we get in matches per definition.

 

I can remember being TK'ed for simply playing a Puerto Rico....and i don't think those lamentables had their account closed for that as they deserved.

[Ze_Reckless]

1 hour ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

How dumbed down is this game going to get?

WG: Yes.

[Pametrada]

As far as I can see, it's just a case of not being able to damage people with friendly fire. If you hit the same friendly ship 40 times in one battle, or a combination of other ships 50 times,  you still go pink, as before. You can even go orange if you keep doing it.

[Trench4nt]

Vor 4 Stunden, Migantium_Mashum sagte:

There have to be penalties for accidentally or deliberately hitting your allies...

 

There are penalties. Pls read the news again.

[Ashardalon_Dragnipur]

lol 40 hits needed for a penalty?

brawls will be torp soup

is there any reason left to move closer? enjoy your backline sniping 

[Cirno9999]

well if you turn pink you can exit to port then anyway

wg: good way to waste flags and camos

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 7 Minuten, Ashardalon_Dragnipur sagte:

lol 40 hits needed for a penalty?

Those conditions are so hard to meet that they should give achievements. Like "anti-confederate" for 50 hits on different allies...

[Aragathor]

13 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

Those conditions are so hard to meet that they should give achievements. Like "anti-confederate" for 50 hits on different allies...

Progressive achievements, around 5 of them. Fifth and final locks the account and blacklists the email address for all WG games.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

4 hours ago, ThePurpleSmurf said:

Pretty sure this change is made because of Subs. So many potatoes will torp somewhere and then try to ping enemy ships to activate the homing feature. Too bad if an ally ship is between the homing torps and the enemy ship.

*CoughKitakami incomingCough*

 

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In fact this new rule is just another blatant nerf for our poor little helpless BaBBies and a buff for DDs, as the nasty DDs can now pummel the poor helpless islandhugging allied BaBBy with 39 torps without any penalty (or damage), surely blowing the mind of the poor little BaBBy who might even decide to give up it's valuable camping spot and move into dangerously open waters...

[FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor]

Dude, you have to be understanding.

 

Of Wargaming's need to sell loads of Kitakamis to make MONNEYYYY.

[ReverendFlashback]

I think I've never managed to shoot an ally with my main battery accidentally.

The only ff this way was maybe 3 times in T2 coop when goofing around with a friend.

And those (singular) hits where on purpose since we where just having fun and trolling each other.

 

Torps are another story and I've got mixed feelings about removing ff for them.

On the one hand it will make those reckless torp users less dangerous than now.

On the other it removes the area denial for everyone and teammates might just sail in them when they stop caring about them.

[Benaulim]

Personally I am welcoming the return of instructional friendly fire, read players underlining their wishes (Support me! Do this! Spot that! Go there!) with a shell or two. Not.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

4 hours ago, Benaulim said:

Personally I am welcoming the return of instructional friendly fire, read players underlining their wishes (Support me! Do this! Spot that! Go there!) with a shell or two. Not.

Exactly.. nothing better than a torp or a couple shell put into that obviously not quite afk potato lagging behind just to a) make him stop watching adult movie videos besides playing or b) getting his bot software to react to a thread and getting it's "evade" script going...

^v^

[Beastofwar]

Kitakami's?

 

I can finally spam my Yoshino torpedo's camping from the back of maps without consequence.....camp between allied camper BB with my Asashio !!  Restore my Yahagi and lauch from the 2nd line. Snatch a kill with torpedo bombers from an allied BB that attempts to ram an enemy !! All the torpedos' that hit that allied BB won't mount up to 40 so no punishment as usual.

 

Endless new possibilites !

 

Rejoice !

[anonym_Q28oK2IubRbe]

19 hours ago, Beastofwar said:

Dumbed down maybe but it did nothing but intentionally or unintentionaly TK players. Or render them unfit for combat.

 

Funny if you are the enemy team, but not fair.

 

Good riddance. Realism is only good for serious players......and that is not what we get in matches per definition.

 

I can remember being TK'ed for simply playing a Puerto Rico....and i don't think those lamentables had their account closed for that as they deserved.

 

On 6/10/2021 at 2:14 PM, Beastofwar said:

 

You have obvioulsy not seen the new Battlefield spoiler....pilot jumps out of his jet, MANPAD's an enemy jet, uses his wingsuit to fly to his falling jet, enters it and flies away victious.......imagine you would have to have to develop jet dogfighting skills and flight characteristics that even resemble real physics.....

 

Such is the public that game caters too.....No wonder some more complex mechanisms may prove too much for them in a game as this. Hence probably the call for shell lobbing only.

Team damage was just to complex of a mechanism.... and the game needs to cater to the public such as it is....

[Nibenay78]

22 hours ago, Beastofwar said:

Good riddance. Realism is only good for serious players......and that is not what we get in matches per definition.

So because od that we should just do everything to make it worse?

 

I suggest we just remove the ships and play laser shooting ufos deal 1 dmg on a hit, has 1 hp and 0 armor and respawn after 1 sec.

 

Going to make wows a blast

[Panocek]

23 hours ago, Europizza said:

This game is not a shooter, it's a looter with participation tokens.

Lootershooter the Wargambling way 

 

On 6/11/2021 at 4:43 PM, Migantium_Mashum said:

I really hope that I have read this incorrectly, From 0.10.5 friendly fire is removed.

 

How dumbed down is this game going to get?

 

The chance of getting a friendly fire penalty ensures to a degree that your allies will in the majority attempt to play in a beneficial manner for the team.

With the absence of the penalty I think that this game becomes more ____________________________ (Insert Word(s) here)_______________ as the days move along.

 

There have to be penalties for accidentally or deliberately hitting your allies...

 

 

 

 

Kitakami, does that name ring a bell?

 

You know, the ship, that supposedly had more friendly kills than enemy kills during CBT

[PaP_Mentoles]

On 6/11/2021 at 6:38 PM, ThePurpleSmurf said:

Update

Pretty sure this change is made because of Subs. So many potatoes will torp somewhere and then try to ping enemy ships to activate the homing feature. Too bad if an ally ship is between the homing torps and the enemy ship.

Not only that, but think about the Kitakami's (or what the fck are named). Torpedo spam ftw. How else WeeGreedy are gonna sell these

[NothingButTheRain]

One thing WG might not have thought about is that if someone turns pink and won't get any economical bonusses, they have very little reason to not suicide or leave early, which would leave that team with a 1 player disadvantage.

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 18 Minuten, NothingButTheRain sagte:

One thing WG might not have thought about is that if someone turns pink and won't get any economical bonusses, they have very little reason to not suicide or leave early, which would leave that team with a 1 player disadvantage.

I doubt that WG do care about team balance... just look at their great MM. 

[NothingButTheRain]

1 hour ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

I doubt that WG do care about team balance... just look at their great MM. 

True, but tbh I was thinking about this from my own perspective, of what I could expect after next patch hits.

Yesterday I was spamming some coop and actually got teamkilled several times. It's uncommon to get teamkilled even in coop, but this happened 3 or 4 times. granted, half the times I would have been dead anyway but it happening so often in just one day will make me remember this as next patch hits and I might see a new kind of griever play (or actually stop playing because what's in it for him now that he turned pink which obviously was totally not his fault). But will be nice if the bots would at least stop teamkilling me 

 

WG is however important in this as they control the game.