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Is the precise date for 10.5 known?

 

Secondly... Asashio. Worth it to nab the bote before it disappears from the store? How gimped is it vs other dds, or do you manage to have decent matches even when you don't have a lot of juicy BBs to farm?

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1 minute ago, arttuperkunas said:

Is the precise date for 10.5 known?

No, but easy to guess.

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You can't beat hunter-killer DD 1:1 with it but clipping a non full HP enemy DD it can do. It has very low detectibility so you can get a jump on enemy DD with their guns looking the other way, or stay invisible, spot and let others kill it.

 

That said, it is not used to fight for cap superiority other then suporting another DD that can.

 

The stealthy 20 km DW torpedo's are the best weapons you will ever get in a torpedo boat for killing lumbering BB. When some hit you are already topping the scoreboard.

 

Downside is you cannot hit Cruisers with torpedo's. So you can't rid yourself of pesky radar Alaska's and such.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

Is the precise date for 10.5 known?

 

Secondly... Asashio. Worth it to nab the bote before it disappears from the store? How gimped is it vs other dds, or do you manage to have decent matches even when you don't have a lot of juicy BBs to farm?

Yes as it has the best concealment in game, good alpha HE, low profile and 4 guns pointing backward so a great kiter. Oh and it has hilarious torpedoes which hit stuff  beyond your initial target (you lanch at 6 -12 km preferably and get bonus hits at 18 to 20 at targets you don't even see ^^

 

Added bonus: if you know what it can and can't do, many enemy players will get blind with rage when you are 'spotted', which you usually only do on your own terms to bait players into chasing a good alpha striking low profile kiter into your friendly range of fire. Or you just kite and HE them yourself, absolutely possible.

 

If you lack any perspective on what it can do or you don't like to do any of the above, you shouldn't.

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Absolutely worth it if. I nabbed it myself. Only played 4 games with average 103k damage.

 

Great stealth and speed. Standard IJN guns but excellent for poking and has both speedbost to juke and smoke aswell as torp reload booster. DWT tends to get a lot of random hits. If you know your way around IJN DD vs other DD engagements from playing Shira, Kagero this is simply the superior version in a BB heavy meta. Struggles with cruisers obviously, but if you torp the red BBs then usually the friendly BBs are only too happy to smash the cruisers.

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1 minute ago, GulvkluderGuld said:

Absolutely worth it if. I nabbed it myself. Only played 4 games with average 103k damage.

 

Great stealth and speed. Standard IJN guns but excellent for poking and has both speedbost to juke and smoke aswell as torp reload booster. DWT tends to get a lot of random hits. If you know your way around IJN DD vs other DD engagements from playing Shira, Kagero this is simply the superior version in a BB heavy meta. Struggles with cruisers obviously, but if you torp the red BBs then usually the friendly BBs are only to smash the cruisers.

I admire your optimism.

 

Thanks for the great analysis though, and also to Europizza.

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26 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

Is the precise date for 10.5 known?

 

Secondly... Asashio. Worth it to nab the bote before it disappears from the store? How gimped is it vs other dds, or do you manage to have decent matches even when you don't have a lot of juicy BBs to farm?

There's nearly always guaranteed 5 juicy BBs.  It's gimped but you have great concealment and you can keep most of gunboats spotted. I use my guns often to hit and run or finish low hp targets. One of highest WR of my all dds so it is not that bad. 

 

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1 hour ago, arttuperkunas said:

Asashio. Worth it to nab the bote before it disappears from the store?

Absolutely (with the - these days - usual caveat about imminent subs).

 

She's, more or less, Kagero with torps that do entirely horrifying things to BBs, and the current meta is *very* BB-heavy (and killing BBs is undoubtedly doing the gods' work). If your vision mechanics kung fu is strong, you can be an absolute bugger to find, and very often dictate engagements.

 

Obviously, there are some down-sides:

  • Specialist gunboat DDs will take you to the cleaners (beware especially things like Lightning/Cossack/Harekaze that are all about as sneaky as you are, and Orkan with her radar, not to mention higher tier hydro).
  • Radar/hydro are serious threats to anything that's all about being sneaky.
  • CVs, of course, are a bloody menace, and your AA is particularly laughable.
  • Cruisers are especially dangerous (assuming they know your torps can't hit them).

Of course, the first three are also problems for any Kagero; it's only the last one that's unique to Asashio.

 

So, unless WG do something to cut back the numbers of BBs (like that's going to happen - see the recent shift in sub emphasis to engaging DDs and cruisers, for instance), Asashio is probably always going to have plenty of things to attack. BTW don't forget about her guns - they're a lot more useful than most people you'll be facing think (if you pick your moments)...

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I bought it yesterday and had fun the first match. The ONLY fun match yesterday I might add!!😩 I reccon 10.5 will be next thursday? Or am I a week off?

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6 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

Is the precise date for 10.5 known?

I dunno, isn´t it every month, was a few weeks since last update

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Secondly... Asashio. Worth it to nab the bote before it disappears from the store? How gimped is it vs other dds, or do you manage to have decent matches even when you don't have a lot of juicy BBs to farm?

Yes, definitely worth it, I ain´t much of a DD player but I have had some good laughs with it

 

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With games filled with up to 6 clueless big gun campers per team, Asashio is a very good choice. If you want to troll your own big gun campers crying for "intelligence data" but not willing to move an inch out of spawn cover, you can park yourself next to them and casually launch torpedos into the general direction of the enemy while drinking a cup of tea and eating some cookies.

 

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9 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

Is the precise date for 10.5 known?

 

Secondly... Asashio. Worth it to nab the bote before it disappears from the store? How gimped is it vs other dds, or do you manage to have decent matches even when you don't have a lot of juicy BBs to farm?

Tbf 

Assashio has kinda fallen off. Its too specialised on killing BBs. And it can't deal with DDs or cruisers. If it atleast had some good guns to deal with DDs, then I would say def go for it. But it doesn't have that. 

You can get it, but there are better options, and even if you don't you won't miss it

The DW torps are very good, except they can't hit DDs which is fine, but even cruisers, which is not fine. And its not like you can strike CVs every game with these torps. 

If you like BB hunting go for it, coz it'll do well in a BB heavy meta as rn. 

But it'll suck everywhere else.

 

If you do go for it, try to improve the guns as much as you can, and trust me, you are gonna need it

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Hi all,

 

6 minutes ago, totally_potato said:

So 5 days? K

 

6 days and 13 hours... we are on EU Server... :Smile_hiding:

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

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9 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

Is the precise date for 10.5 known?

 

Secondly... Asashio. Worth it to nab the bote before it disappears from the store? How gimped is it vs other dds, or do you manage to have decent matches even when you don't have a lot of juicy BBs to farm?

One of my favorite DDs. It depends on what type of ships you like, but I personally like it a lot

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9 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

Is the precise date for 10.5 known?

 

Secondly... Asashio. Worth it to nab the bote before it disappears from the store? How gimped is it vs other dds, or do you manage to have decent matches even when you don't have a lot of juicy BBs to farm?

does it require you to pay money to WG? yes. 

so the answer of your question about asashio is very simple. doesn't worth it. nothing does. 

 

besides there are much better tech tree DDs at tier 8. keep your money.

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Grap it as its a fun ship, one game I sent torpedoes out with the reload at the start and killed a cv on the other side of the map. 

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Funny but sad how WG do business. Out of fear.

 

Removing them from the shop to be used in Santa lootsucker containers and everyone now is flapping to buy them. 

 

It's like Christmas for WG everytime they do this.

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Wouldn't the ship still be available as Asashio B during Black Friday? Or will they stop selling there as well? 

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As 50+ BB in cue can be carry all game, but cant fight in cap ALONE.

CV is a pain if detected focused all day.

Slow, low hp, poor manoverability.

Usual random when sniping BBs "fromlineA" sink all small ship fast and DDs each other in cap fight and NOCV -> You are KING when only hordes of BBs left...

Sleepy CVs can get present/surpries too. Can deny enemy BBs eneter areas if use reload well.

 

If have freetouse resource buy it. Different from other DDs and matchmaking dependant from 0 to hardcarrysuperpower.

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12 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

Secondly... Asashio. Worth it to nab the bote before it disappears from the store? How gimped is it vs other dds, or do you manage to have decent matches even when you don't have a lot of juicy BBs to farm? 

The Asashio is excellent:

- great concealment and good alpha to deal with DDs

- obviously, she's the scourge of BBs

- the range on the torps is so good you can often bypass radar cruisers and strike the BBs behind them

- with that range, sometimes you can even snipe CVs

 

 

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Pulled the trigger. I'm quite pleased! Had two games in it, both were quite good; even sniped the CV in one, as the doofus was stationary for minutes on end even after being detected by yours truly.

 

It is indeed hilarious how the DW torps zone areas out, regularly getting hits on ships far behind the target that I had never even spotted before firing.

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13 hours ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said:

It is Tier 8 and this gets 70% CV games. Or more. Pay to be griefed.

Not in ranked, and it works excellently there.

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