anonym_ithQExuCaqyB Players 22 posts Report post #1 Posted June 4, 2021 My winrate is near or more than 60% depending on the account. But when I play ranked my winrate is 29%! The reason is very clear: 1. Enemy team has 1-4 prem ships my teams prem ships NEVER exceeds 1 ship! 2. Most of the time there are complete idi*ts in my team, DDs sailing away from the battle from the beginning not even spotting, BBs hiding behind islands and do NOTHING, cruisers shoot on 15km away BBs but not the DD in front of him, AFK CVs and so on without any end to this in sight. 3, Even when I sink 4 ships the enemy team wins simply because no other in my team reaches even 250 points! No matter what anyone tells you, the ranked matches are rigged - FACT! I gave up on ranked battles cos it is useless at least for me, my winrate is going down constantly without any end in sight - so why should I play ranked? Ranked Stats: 10 Matches - 7 lost - If I should play more it will be 8 lost matches out of 10 for sure (stats/facts) Random Stats: 10 Matches - 3-4 lost - If I should play more it will be more 3 looses out of 10 maybe (stas/facts) I play NOT for the stats like some out there but for fun - but honestly how can I have fun playing with complete useless teams? It is only frustrating. 1 20 13 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2 Posted June 4, 2021 when you think the premiums make the difference, then the problem is with you Ranked is not fought on Tier IV and V, for higher Tiers your ability is lacking other people do fine, without premiums, they have to deal with the same teams as you starting a new account does not make you a better player and might give you the wrong impression of your ability 9 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CGER] Northern_Nightowl Players 544 posts 14,924 battles Report post #3 Posted June 4, 2021 Vor 13 Minuten, Zappata82 sagte: My winrate is near or more than 60% depending on the account. But when I play ranked my winrate is 29%! I had the same experience, in Bronze. In "Test" and even more "Season 2", I had a WR of around 45-47% overall. Well, the first days of the third season: WR below 20% (IIRC even 13% one day), so, even if I take my own known values that are not at all outstanding, the WR was way too bad. I didn't quit and fought on, managing the Silver qualification in the second sprint. I had to adapt the ship choices in my case, performing best with the Caracciolo and the KGV (contrary to my expectations, that were more going towards Japanese and European DD and German ships), that made it easier to counter RPF skills (seen really often) and radar cruisers. So, you may want to check your ship choices (if you're not talking about Gold and T10, as you did not mention which rank you're talking about). Vor 23 Minuten, Zappata82 sagte: No matter what anyone tells you, the ranked matches are rigged - FACT! I play NOT for the stats like some out there but for fun - but honestly how can I have fun playing with complete useless teams? It is only frustrating. Your experience is much more likely a statistical artefact of RNG mixed in with either a confirmation bias or a similar psychological phenomenon. As per Occam's razor: what should be the benefit of rigging the matches? Regards, Nightowl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #4 Posted June 5, 2021 49 minutes ago, Zappata82 said: No matter what anyone tells you, the ranked matches are rigged - FACT! I'm sure WG enjoys to target you in particular. Totally worth it for them to waste money on an algorithm that disfavours you out of all the random players... 4 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_ithQExuCaqyB Players 22 posts Report post #5 Posted June 5, 2021 So many really stupid arguments - it is not about me it is about the fact that someone with a 60% WR cannot even reach 30% WR in ranked cos the MM is rigged! There is no other logical option or do you think I play especially bad in ranked? And I play very well in my KGV (random) and I like that ship - but my WR is going down constantly from 46% to now 29% and falling. But of course WoW is soo perfect it is always the users making problems never WG... and all the people criticizing WG are crazy, noobs, idi*ts, mentals etc... sure... This game is rigged another example: No one (should) fall lower than 40% that's why WG changed CV gameplay so that even retarded players can win - FACT! 1 10 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_ithQExuCaqyB Players 22 posts Report post #6 Posted June 5, 2021 Any explanation why even in random matches one team has only 1 good player and the rest is useless noobs and the other team has 6 crack players and 6 mediocre and good players? Ending in 12 vs 1 kills? Ending in 11min? This is no MM this is rigged! It is VERY easy to avoid such matches but WG has other interests... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #7 Posted June 5, 2021 Bro, it ain't rigged. KGV is fine for Randoms, it is less good at Ranked because the ranges at which Ranked are fought are different and much closer. At close ranges the weaknesses of KGV stand out: its armor is soft and its AP has indifferent pen, and it has poor secondaries. You really have to have a fine touch with it to get away with KGV in Ranked. If your WR is much lower, that is RNGesus telling you that you are in the wrong ship. Play a DD if you want better control over your WR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-10] ___V_E_N_O_M___ Players 2,129 posts 14,291 battles Report post #8 Posted June 5, 2021 28 minutes ago, Zappata82 said: So many really stupid arguments - it is not about me it is about the fact that someone with a 60% WR cannot even reach 30% WR in ranked cos the MM is rigged! There is no other logical option or do you think I play especially bad in ranked? And I play very well in my KGV (random) and I like that ship - but my WR is going down constantly from 46% to now 29% and falling. But of course WoW is soo perfect it is always the users making problems never WG... and all the people criticizing WG are crazy, noobs, idi*ts, mentals etc... sure... This game is rigged another example: No one (should) fall lower than 40% that's why WG changed CV gameplay so that even retarded players can win - FACT! Your 60% WR is an illusion and 672 battles in Randoms means nothing, in fact it took me 349 games to reach gold league and this is my first time. That is the kind of determination you need to push through, especially if its your first time in ranked. You appear to have experience in Tier 5 and below mainly with 1 bb at tier 8, this is why you fail at ranked. You basically have no idea, what you are doing... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STARS] LeSnoet [STARS] Beta Tester 189 posts 20,599 battles Report post #9 Posted June 5, 2021 Buy a mirror. A lot more useful than ranting that the game is rigged. me me me me me me me 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_ithQExuCaqyB Players 22 posts Report post #10 Posted June 5, 2021 44 minutes ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said: Your 60% WR is an illusion and 672 battles in Randoms means nothing, in fact it took me 349 games to reach gold league and this is my first time. That is the kind of determination you need to push through, especially if its your first time in ranked. You appear to have experience in Tier 5 and below mainly with 1 bb at tier 8, this is why you fail at ranked. You basically have no idea, what you are doing... 1. My WR is at 57% and my 3 other accounts well lover 60% so YOU are the one here having illusions! FACT 2. I play this game since 2014 - I have played way more matches than you! FACT 3. You have clearly no idea about me or what I'm doing! FACT But of course WG is always right and we are all mental... right? I'm so sick of people like you big mouth and only lies lies lies... 7 2 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_ithQExuCaqyB Players 22 posts Report post #11 Posted June 5, 2021 40 minutes ago, LeSnoet said: Buy a mirror. A lot more useful than ranting that the game is rigged. me me me me me me me What a scientific insight! If this is all you can give than you dont need even a mirror. LOL 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_ithQExuCaqyB Players 22 posts Report post #12 Posted June 5, 2021 53 minutes ago, SodaBubbles said: Bro, it ain't rigged. KGV is fine for Randoms, it is less good at Ranked because the ranges at which Ranked are fought are different and much closer. At close ranges the weaknesses of KGV stand out: its armor is soft and its AP has indifferent pen, and it has poor secondaries. You really have to have a fine touch with it to get away with KGV in Ranked. If your WR is much lower, that is RNGesus telling you that you are in the wrong ship. Play a DD if you want better control over your WR. WR with KGV: 57% and climbing but even if I had 100% in random it does not matter cos with only stupid total psycho afraid m*nkeys in ranked team you have no chance thats the problem! And why it is like that? Yes WG makes the MM and not me. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastButterfly Beta Tester 5,519 posts 2,939 battles Report post #13 Posted June 5, 2021 28 minutes ago, Zappata82 said: we are all mental... Right here it's mostly you. I would love to explain in detail that the MM doesn't target one player and thus complaints like "my time only has X" or "the enemy team always X" are void by default since the sole common element between all your matches is you. Buuut you're so far into the delusional disorder that you might actually need psychological help. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] ThePurpleSmurf Players 2,554 posts Report post #14 Posted June 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Zappata82 said: So many really stupid arguments - it is not about me it is about the fact that someone with a 60% WR cannot even reach 30% WR in ranked cos the MM is rigged! There is no other logical option or do you think I play especially bad in ranked? 35 minutes ago, Zappata82 said: 1. My WR is at 57% and my 3 other accounts well lover 60% so YOU are the one here having illusions! FACT 2. I play this game since 2014 - I have played way more matches than you! FACT 3. You have clearly no idea about me or what I'm doing! FACT Evidently you are not nearly as good at the game as you think you are! FACT Do you come across as a little arrogant c*#%? Absolutely! FACT 5 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTT] tsounts [TTT] Players 1,711 posts 34,942 battles Report post #15 Posted June 5, 2021 I'm having a hard time in ranked as well now that I reach the qualification stage for golden league, suddenly the MM has turned into a nightmare, matches have been thrown for no reason even though they were about to be victorious for our side. I had a very nice time in bronze and silver league and easy progress but this qualification feels rather horrible... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] belalugosisdead Players 1,038 posts 30,700 battles Report post #16 Posted June 5, 2021 Its always usefull for discussions, to start threads with pointing out that your opinion is "FACT". 3 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] Johnny_Moneto Beta Tester 2,903 posts 22,225 battles Report post #17 Posted June 5, 2021 Vor 10 Minuten, tsounts sagte: I'm having a hard time in ranked as well now that I reach the qualification stage for golden league, suddenly the MM has turned into a nightmare, matches have been thrown for no reason even though they were about to be victorious for our side. I had a very nice time in bronze and silver league and easy progress but this qualification feels rather horrible... I have a negative streak in Silver, 40% WR but it sure feels worse. It is like in Flambass' video: All I need is the team to not die quickly... and then the mates die quickly. Currently Random is very similar for me. Very boring overall. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] MannequinSkywalker Players 539 posts 8,558 battles Report post #18 Posted June 5, 2021 https://clips.twitch.tv/CallousDullMilkSaltBae-fpvstMD6xD2Z7Jq2 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan_Renegade Players 855 posts 7,183 battles Report post #19 Posted June 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Zappata82 said: Any explanation why even in random matches one team has only 1 good player and the rest is useless noobs and the other team has 6 crack players and 6 mediocre and good players? Ending in 12 vs 1 kills? Ending in 11min? This is no MM this is rigged! It is VERY easy to avoid such matches but WG has other interests... The current ranked in Bronze is just garbage and it has nothing to do with skill nor tactics as I usually end up with teammates that lack either. I didn't find it this tedious to rank up and qualify in the previous season which was exclusive to high tiers and it was fun btw. Now just about any mid-tier [censored] with a New Orleans can participate and some of them don't even bother to paint their naked ships. Rant over. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #20 Posted June 5, 2021 39 minutes ago, Zappata82 said: WR with KGV: 57% and climbing but even if I had 100% in random it does not matter cos with only stupid total psycho afraid m*nkeys in ranked team you have no chance thats the problem! And why it is like that? Yes WG makes the MM and not me. 53%, actually. And just 15 battles. You have 70 battles at T7. It's not enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #21 Posted June 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Zappata82 said: it is about the fact that someone with a 60% WR cannot even reach 30% WR in ranked cos the MM is rigged! Rubbish. Ranked is an entirely different beast, compared to Randoms; you need to adjust your ship picks and tactics to each mode. Incidentally, labelling stuff as 'FACT' doesn't make it any less nonsense; just a small FYI. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] Cyclops_ Players 2,108 posts 36,207 battles Report post #22 Posted June 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Zappata82 said: My winrate is near or more than 60% depending on the account. But when I play ranked my winrate is 29%! The reason is very clear: 1. Enemy team has 1-4 prem ships my teams prem ships NEVER exceeds 1 ship! 2. Most of the time there are complete idi*ts in my team, DDs sailing away from the battle from the beginning not even spotting, BBs hiding behind islands and do NOTHING, cruisers shoot on 15km away BBs but not the DD in front of him, AFK CVs and so on without any end to this in sight. 3, Even when I sink 4 ships the enemy team wins simply because no other in my team reaches even 250 points! No matter what anyone tells you, the ranked matches are rigged - FACT! I gave up on ranked battles cos it is useless at least for me, my winrate is going down constantly without any end in sight - so why should I play ranked? Ranked Stats: 10 Matches - 7 lost - If I should play more it will be 8 lost matches out of 10 for sure (stats/facts) Random Stats: 10 Matches - 3-4 lost - If I should play more it will be more 3 looses out of 10 maybe (stas/facts) I play NOT for the stats like some out there but for fun - but honestly how can I have fun playing with complete useless teams? It is only frustrating. Jeez, Ranked us sooooo different to random, clue us in the title really, Random us like a lucky dip game, where as ranked you have actually communicate with your team mates to win, you play your ships differently, like in Silver I use Yugumo with TORP RELOAD BOOSTER. I would not think of it in Randoms, so I suggest you think outside the box when you play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #23 Posted June 5, 2021 Ranked means: A lot of bad players, a lot of players with no camo, a lot of afk players, a lot of BB hiding for the entire game, a lot of premium ships (usually T7 radar cruisers, often played by geniuses who have yet to find out that they actually HAVE radar). Nevertheless, I ranked out twice using T6 ships exclusively (only poor players really need T7 ships in Bronze). So, even if MM is not your friend, you (if you are not only present, but kicking butt) can still win games more often than not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #24 Posted June 5, 2021 Vor 5 Stunden, Zappata82 sagte: I You have clearly no idea about me or what I'm doing! Fixed that for you! 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-DGH-] xe_N_on [-DGH-] Players 525 posts 3,591 battles Report post #25 Posted June 5, 2021 Vor 8 Stunden, Zappata82 sagte: My winrate is near or more than 60% depending on the account. But when I play ranked my winrate is 29%! The reason is very clear: 1. Enemy team has 1-4 prem ships my teams prem ships NEVER exceeds 1 ship! 2. Most of the time there are complete idi*ts in my team, DDs sailing away from the battle from the beginning not even spotting, BBs hiding behind islands and do NOTHING, cruisers shoot on 15km away BBs but not the DD in front of him, AFK CVs and so on without any end to this in sight. 3, Even when I sink 4 ships the enemy team wins simply because no other in my team reaches even 250 points! No matter what anyone tells you, the ranked matches are rigged - FACT! I gave up on ranked battles cos it is useless at least for me, my winrate is going down constantly without any end in sight - so why should I play ranked? Ranked Stats: 10 Matches - 7 lost - If I should play more it will be 8 lost matches out of 10 for sure (stats/facts) Random Stats: 10 Matches - 3-4 lost - If I should play more it will be more 3 looses out of 10 maybe (stas/facts) I play NOT for the stats like some out there but for fun - but honestly how can I have fun playing with complete useless teams? It is only frustrating. Because ranked is still random, actually. Which team mates you get is absolutely random. As pointed out in other threads, higher ranks doesn't protect you from getting bad players, because you can just die your way up to the next rank. So having a loosing stroke even over more than a dozen matches is absolute normal. For example, the last ~ 20 games in random I had teams with an average win rate of 3% and less compared to the enemy team, consisting often of players with only a few hundreds battles. No way for an only above average, but non-unicum player like me to carry all those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites