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Poll: Which ship worth it the most?

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  1. 1. I’d choose

    • T-61
      45
    • Haida
      21
    • ZF-6
      14
    • Hyuga
      7
    • None of the above
      20

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If you could get only one of these four ships, which one would you choose?

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IMO it's very close between the T-61 and Haida as far as gameplay goes. The T-61 gets my vote as it can train captains for a nation rather than a couple of ships.

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Hyuga is overpowered in Narai, but will suffer in PvP when getting thrown in +2 tier matches as it only has 356 mm guns. The secondaries ( stock more accurate then standard ) are a major contribution to it's damage  in Narai if you skill & module it full secondary and keep the secondaries in range whenver you can. So strong points that are not per definition 1:1 translatable in PvP.

 

T61 and Haida perform well in Operations and PvP and are less susceptible to being the lowest tier in a match. ( 8 km ) topedoes always work and you can't shoot what you can't see. They might lose a gun race in a duel vs higher tier ships though as higher tier ones usually get more guns or higher ROF. 19 mm plating or less does not really matter as almost all guns can punch 19 mm anyway. It might even be beneficial to have only 16 mm vs the newer AP shooting DD that begin to enter matches as they will not arm and always overpenetrate.

 

ZF-6 ? that is the new stuff that requires you to dynamically shift between AP and HE. It is however a gunship with rather unusable ( to hunt the big ships ) low 6 km torpedo range. I guess you are supposed to bring these to a ( DD vd DD) gunfight. It's gun reload boost can do nasty things like the French DD can but it is ofcourse no match for some DD that have continuous high ROF. I think you are really supposed to use AP as often as you can with it. Difficult to get used to ( for me )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Do not buy premiums for operations, it's a scam, for PvP T61 followed by Haida (T is better trainer).

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32 minutes ago, DariusJacek said:

Do not buy premiums for operations, it's a scam,

 

So you say.....i find Operations very usable to get the daily coal and steel without wasting time on a string of losses in PvP as the last 4 directives require a WIN. I often do not need it...but when i do the fast completion option is there.

 

And reward comparible to randoms, so premiums can be made to gush credits and freeXP.  Contrary to the lousy Coop economy....or losing random matches when you dont want to spend the time or getting frustrated over that.

 

The ( mentioned, T6/T7 ) DD's still require considearble skill in Operations though as they are fragile and can't be seen for more then a few seconds. Low HP attracts bot fire, and DD already have low HP when they are 100 %. With BB such as Hyuga you can just wade through anything and let the bodies hit the floor. It requires very little skill but point the guns...and focus click the enemy you want the secondaries to snuff.....which can be relaxing at times i guess.

 

For me it has considerable more value if a ship is usable in multiple game modes without sacrificing performance, and preferably with the same build ( captain, but those are free to move in premiums) So it has to be the T6/T7 DD's i guess. The BB is not really a PvP friendly ship, the ZF-6 cannot be used in Operations.

 

 

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T61-t6 z-46 can do everything:torpedo,gunboat and has hydro to help against destroyers and scout enemy torpedoes. 

Haida-strong against destroyers but quite weak against battleships and cruisers,poor fire chance and ballistics and limited torpedo armament.

Zf-6: will leave a mark on the enemy destroyer thanks to reload booster and improved ap angles, the 32 mm he pen is nice but ballistics are quite underwhelming and dpm without reload booster is also lacking. It has mogatod torpedoes good damage and speed but limited range of 8km. The ship is also big and tends to eat a lot of damage. Z-46 is the better ship so no point in getting it.

Hyuga-very strong from I what saw: 12 guns 1.8 sigma can lead to some nice salvos and overall ok dispersion+fast reload for a 12 gun bb,still enough pen to go trough cruisers and even BB at close ranges they can still get citadeled. Hyuga has also better armor than colorad and nagato will definetly ricochets most ap shells and HE shells of the deck and even side belt when angled properly of course. Low caliber result in weak overmatch but the fast reload and presence of reload booster and 12 guns can make a switch to the HE viable against bow in BB. Against cruisers? Better try to flank them. This is a strong ship no doubt but.....it remain a mistery if lesta has the balls to nerf a premium ship aqquired with money.

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1 hour ago, Ocsimano18 said:

If you could get only one of these four ships, which one would you choose?

 

Kinda unfair that poll, if you ask me, since you are jumping Tiers. 

 

Haida and T-61 are great ships, maybe even a bit OP. 

Cant say much to ZF yet.

 

Personally im not interested in Hyuga since its basically a Fuso at T7 with a gimick. And getting into T9 Matches with a Fuso-hull regulary.... yikes!

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It entirely depends on what tier you want to play, so this is difficult to answer.

 

The only clear choice, imo, is that Huyga is not "must have". It might be good, but in no way must have (IMO).

 

Haida and T-61 are, for a DD player, more or less must haves at T6 and T7, respectively. The jury is still out on ZF-6, though I am extremely sceptical about it being must have, considering how strong some other DDs are at T9, including tech tree ships like Jutland and Kitakaze.

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I voted T-61 as she's probably the best of them tier-for-tier; it's pretty close though with Haida at No 2.

 

I haven't played ZF-6 that much yet, although she was very good in Ranked when I first picked her up; the combination of stealth (by the standards of the tier), usable torps, and - by means of the MBRB - being able to dakka most opposing DDs to death in fairly short order is really very nice.

 

Hyuga, as a BB, smells and its mother dresses it funny (obvs).

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Tier for tier, the T-61. Haida a close second. 

 

Enjoy both DDs but T-61 has an easier time within its MM due to lack of Radar. 

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Vor 1 Stunde, Beastofwar sagte:

ZF-6 ? that is the new stuff that requires you to dynamically shift between AP and HE. It is however a gunship with rather unusable ( to hunt the big ships ) low 6 km torpedo range. I guess you are supposed to bring these to a ( DD vd DD) gunfight. It's gun reload boost can do nasty things like the French DD can but it is ofcourse no match for some DD that have continuous high ROF. I think you are really supposed to use AP as often as you can with it. Difficult to get used to ( for me )

 

ZF-6 has (strong) 8km torps! And in contrast to the French opponents, you can easily stealth torp with them due to the superior concealment.

With reload boost active and catching broadsides, it simply shreds the other top notch DDs, such as Friesland, Kitakaze and Mogador. Without reload boost, you can also hunt down all other DDs.

 

Played yesterday nine games in silver. Five wins in a row, then four losses. But I saved the star the first three times.

 

 

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Of those zf-6 prob simply couse you might get more mileage from her since wg tends to make most events geared twards hightiers

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50 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

o you say.....i find Operations very usable to get the daily coal and steel without wasting time on a string of losses in PvP as the last 4 directives require a WIN. I often do not need it...but when i do the fast completion option is there.

  

And reward comparible to randoms, so premiums can be made to gush credits and freeXP.  Contrary to the lousy Coop economy....or losing random matches when you dont want to spend the time or getting frustrated over that. 

 

The ( mentioned, T6/T7 ) DD's still require considearble skill in Operations though as they are fragile and can't be seen for more then a few seconds. Low HP attracts bot fire, and DD already have low HP when they are 100 %.

I don't suffer from strings of losses in PvP and I can't be bothered by WG grindy missions any more anyway. Rewards in operations are nowadays much worse then in randoms (if you are able to consistently do well and carry in high tiers). Operations are fun to play once in a while but in cruisers, still it gets boring quickly due to repetitiveness and luck of surprises.  DDs do not have enough DPM and HP to be really useful in most of ops.

Coop sucks, but it's good for some dumb missions still.

What I meant by scam is that I got Sims specially for dynamo plus AA and soon they removed this operation together with most of t7 ops and AA .So I am left with weak premium USA DD and random MM for t7s is really bad if you do not have as good concealment as Haida.

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2 hours ago, Prophecy82 said:

And getting into T9 Matches with a Fuso-hull regulary.... yikes

Fuso has a 152 mm casemate and a 35 mm deck, iirc, as well as a small superstructure: it's a pretty good hull for T7, if you keep it angled.

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27 minutes ago, tocqueville8 said:

Fuso has a 152 mm casemate and a 35 mm deck, iirc, as well as a small superstructure: it's a pretty good hull for T7, if you keep it angled.

Imagine: A wild Musashi appears!

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Vor 2 Stunden, ThePurpleSmurf sagte:

Looks is all that matters. T-61 is the sexiest looking ship in the game. PERIOD!

 

:Smile-_tongue:

And a real beast... :Smile_honoring:

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T61! T61! T61! T61! T61! T61! T61! T61! T61! T61!

 

A truly real omg awesome beast best yahoo hell yeah DD!

 

Great fun with him!

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Just now, Prophecy82 said:

Imagine: A wild Musashi appears!

A Musashi makes little difference against a Fuso: the 35 mm deck only a Shikishima can overmatch, and for the 26 mm parts a Queen Elizabeth is enough.

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T-61 is the best choice overall. It has decent rate of fire, rapid firing torpedoes and hydro. Premium ships need to uptier well and T-61 does exactly that while being very strong at tier 5 and 6 especially against those pesky stealth build Kamikaze/Fujin players. Its AA is irrelevant but then again nearly every single destroyer is except Friesland, Halland and Akizuki when against tier 6 or 8 CV. 

 

Haida looks fine but I have a similar approach to it as I have with regards to Azuma and Yoshino. Why get the lite edition of something when its full version is in a tier higher? 

 

I feel a little bad for those voting for Hyuga. 25 knots, no AA, , outdated turret layout and 356mm rifles... at tier 7. Have fun with your shells bouncing off from the deck of nearly every battleship and heavy cruiser you will see besides a couple at tier 5 I guess? It is a ship that not only uptiers extremely poorly but also relies mostly on the mistakes of the opposition. Should have been a tier 6 battleship... that deck armor, reload booster and avant-garde citadel aint enough to justify tier 7. 

 

No idea about ZF-6 so that is a pass.

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