[INDIA] luokailk Players 377 posts 42,521 battles Report post #1 Posted May 22, 2021 Hi guys, as T61 is leaving us, is it op? for competitive and in random? The +50% xp bonus is not significant tho. Edit: Thanks a lot guys! Seems good to go. Yet I've another question: Premium ships like Thunderer is getting nerfed over and over again right after the armory removal. Seems like the new WG policy. Will this T61 be nerfed right after the removal? I don't want to buy something that will be nerfed to trash level later. We buy things because it's good, which is logical right? :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BIF] K82J Players 827 posts 10,204 battles Report post #2 Posted May 22, 2021 Probably the best T6 DD. Stealthy, has hydro, smoke, speed boost, strong AP, 32 mm HE pen by default , she can launch 8 torps in a bit above every minute. When she was introduced, i bought her within a week, cause she seemed too good not to get removed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #3 Posted May 22, 2021 It's one of the best destroyers in the game, so if you'll play mid-tiers a lot, it's worthwhile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #4 Posted May 22, 2021 Yes she is good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #5 Posted May 22, 2021 It's good. The developer is not. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #6 Posted May 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, luokailk said: Hi guys, as T61 is leaving us, is it op? for competitive and in random? The +50% xp bonus is not significant tho. One of the few ships I didn't think about at all when I brought it, I mean I took one look at its stats and knew how strong it was.(before vowing to never spend a penny on this game again, thanks to WG). Solid stats and OP for its tier. It has many strengths, few weakness. Even does well when up tiered unlike some dds around that tier. If you believe in WG money practises, sure get it. If you don't, there are still silver ships out there that do well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] MannequinSkywalker Players 539 posts 8,558 battles Report post #7 Posted May 22, 2021 Hi, it is a good DD but so are other Tier 6 DDs as there is no bad T6 DD. The rumors about T61 being op is due to its quick torp reload and hydro. If you are good in DDs and want to throw money around, then T61 could be a fun addition. On the other hand, don't expect a sudden increase on winrate because a ship won't raise your wr in it, the way you play will. From this perspective, it is not op. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,194 battles Report post #8 Posted May 22, 2021 It's a gr8 T6 DD with good guns and torps, downside is low speed and pretty big size (it feels bigger the the techree one). Worth having. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
totally_potato Players 2,533 posts Report post #9 Posted May 22, 2021 32 minutes ago, luokailk said: Hi guys, as T61 is leaving us, is it op? for competitive and in random? The +50% xp bonus is not significant tho. Ok you want an OP DD. No wonder they released thunderer About T-61, yes its a strong ship and def worth the buy and its leaving next patch so get it and Z-39 which is another good DD T-61 has very good torp power with the reload, damage and speed, smoke + hydro combo, good guns, good stealth, decent maneuverability, and all round one of the best DDs tier for tier. My first DD that got me into DDs Her guns have good reload, with low HE alpha but 32mm pin and decent fire chance, and good armor piercing shells, with high alpha and decent penetration. Overall a very good investment for a good package that works when uptiered and in competitive. The perfect hybrid DD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #10 Posted May 22, 2021 As per the stats, she's the most OP ship you currently can get in the game, about 60% werkly random WR. I'm still not decided about getting her. She is a tier 6 DD after all. I rarely play my tier 6s, and if I fancy some DD play, I'd rather take Shima, Marceau, or Smaland out. She can be comptetive even in the current T6-T7 rankeds, but I'm not sure if I wanted to play her over and over again with sub 45% WR guys that will populate the bronze league within a few weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[INDIA] luokailk Players 377 posts 42,521 battles Report post #11 Posted May 22, 2021 Thanks a lot guys! Seems good to go. Yet I've another question: Premium ships like Thunderer is getting nerfed over and over again right after the armory removal. Seems like the new WG policy. Will this T61 be nerfed right after the removal? I don't want to buy something that will be nerfed to trash level later. We buy things because it's good, which is logical right? :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[H_FAN] Gnirf Players 3,293 posts 67,377 battles Report post #12 Posted May 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, luokailk said: Thanks a lot guys! Seems good to go. Yet I've another question: Premium ships like Thunderer is getting nerfed over and over again right after the armory removal. Seems like the new WG policy. Will this T61 be nerfed right after the removal? I don't want to buy something that will be nerfed to trash level later. We buy things because it's good, which is logical right? :) They have added that thing to new ships but I do not think T61 is that category. Thunderer is a special ship (not sold for money directly) so does not belong to that category Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Strapps [TOXIC] Players 1,135 posts 5,968 battles Report post #13 Posted May 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, luokailk said: Premium ships like Thunderer is getting nerfed over and over again right after the armory removal. Seems like the new WG policy. Will this T61 be nerfed right after the removal? I don't want to buy something that will be nerfed to trash level later. We buy things because it's good, which is logical right? :) Slight difference here, Thunderer is technically not a premium ship and doesn't get the enhanced rewards of a regular premium ship (i.e. enhanced credit multiplier built-in rather than a camo bonus). WG have always reserved the right to modify those ships. This appears to be changing with new premiums ships such as the Flandre, where the page in the premium shop includes the statement, "If deemed necessary, balance changes may be applied to Flandre.". I have no idea how it will apply in practice if a nerf is proposed and buyers of the ship challenge it but I doubt it could be applied to the T-61 and other older premiums retrospectively as that would be attempting to change the conditions of purchase long after the event. ETA: What @Gnirf said much more succinctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #14 Posted May 22, 2021 Not T61 as it is a full premium and besides WG does not care much about low tiers and balance there. It's one of 2 ships that I have over 70%wr with over 100 games and the other is CV, it is the strongest tier for tier ship you can get now IMHO but it is a T6 DD so you have to be careful with all CVs around but not that careful to become useless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #15 Posted May 22, 2021 1 hour ago, luokailk said: Will this T61 be nerfed right after the removal? Unlike all the newly-released premiums (Flandre onwards), T-61 didn't have the 'may be nerfed' label, so it's unlikely she'll get nerfed. My guess is that WG are hoping that - eventually - enough players will forget that these earlier premiums are supposedly not for nerfing, and go and do it anyway; that'll probably take quite a long time though, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. Under normal circumstances, I would highly recommend T-61 (tier-for-tier, she's a strong candidate for best DD in the game IMO); the only reason for caution now is the imminent addition of submarines - they could easily change the game out of all recognition and/or ruin it. That said, T6 premiums are relatively inexpensive, so you could easily get decent use out of T-61 before things go to hell...? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pametrada Players 709 posts 5,022 battles Report post #16 Posted May 22, 2021 I don't play DDs very often, but I give the T-61 an occasional outing. Well worth having, IMO - maybe I should play her more. Definitely get it while you have the chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Maris_Piper Players 2,012 posts Report post #17 Posted May 22, 2021 Another Yes, A solid DD and not to shabby when up-tiered, I also got myself Z39 after looking at the "New" German DD's 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[INDIA] luokailk Players 377 posts 42,521 battles Report post #18 Posted May 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Maris_Piper said: Another Yes, A solid DD and not to shabby when up-tiered, I also got myself Z39 after looking at the "New" German DD's Thanks mate, I'd like to know if there is any comparison of T62 and Z39, which one is better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #19 Posted May 22, 2021 2 hours ago, luokailk said: Thanks a lot guys! Seems good to go. Yet I've another question: Premium ships like Thunderer is getting nerfed over and over again right after the armory removal. Seems like the new WG policy. Will this T61 be nerfed right after the removal? I don't want to buy something that will be nerfed to trash level later. We buy things because it's good, which is logical right? :) As a Blyskawica, Atlanta and Flint owner I'd say don't buy anything if you don't want it tampered with. I'm still in tears and up in arms about the Atlanta losing it's role as a fleet AA cruiser. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #20 Posted May 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, luokailk said: comparison of T62 and Z39, which one is better? Tier-for-tier, T-61 is probably better IMO; Z-39 is very good though, and well worth having as well (less urgently however - she's not about to be removed, as far as I know). Z-39 is unusual in that she gets access to the concealment mod, which reduces her detection distance to 6.1 km (CE captain, of course) and you can do quite a lot with that (although at T7, I prefer Haida, and she's about to be removed as well). As an aside, Z-39 really does throw how dreadful Z-31 is into rather sharp relief... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #21 Posted May 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, luokailk said: Thanks mate, I'd like to know if there is any comparison of T62 and Z39, which one is better? T-61 hands down, it just outshines it in every way that matters. It is sneakier, has faster reloading torps, better DPM and is a whole tier lower. The Z-39 only real advantage is more HP and 1 km more hydro range, but it's tier 7 and will get much tougher MM and much more sneaky opponents. Get T-61. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Maris_Piper Players 2,012 posts Report post #22 Posted May 22, 2021 25 minutes ago, luokailk said: Thanks mate, I'd like to know if there is any comparison of T62 and Z39, which one is better? T-61 as was said above by. ollonborre Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[INDIA] luokailk Players 377 posts 42,521 battles Report post #23 Posted May 22, 2021 Thanks a lot guys, T61 purchased, killed a T23 face-to-face in the first battle :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seXikanac Players 123 posts 2,982 battles Report post #24 Posted May 22, 2021 10 hours ago, luokailk said: Hi guys, as T61 is leaving us, is it op? for competitive and in random? The +50% xp bonus is not significant tho. Edit: Thanks a lot guys! Seems good to go. Yet I've another question: Premium ships like Thunderer is getting nerfed over and over again right after the armory removal. Seems like the new WG policy. Will this T61 be nerfed right after the removal? I don't want to buy something that will be nerfed to trash level later. We buy things because it's good, which is logical right? :) As an owner of T61 for quite some time, I can state that ship is not OP. If you are a good player you will not score better while sailing T61 than in any other DD, but she will help mediocre players right their mistakes by surviving a bit longer by having smoke/hydro/speed and making a bit more XP by having 1 min torpedo reload yet don't expect to be superior comparing to other DDs in the battle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AGRES] citaDELer Players 253 posts 20,043 battles Report post #25 Posted May 23, 2021 t61 is OP only in t5 battles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites