matchmaking, anyway the best thing to discuss

[sordus004]

hello, good to everyone. I have been playing wg games for quite a few years now and I am well aware of the operation and matchmaking of the games of this great house. I don't usually have anything against bad pairings from level 8 onwards because I find that almost all the ships that I have, premium or not, are quite balanced and I think they can see 10. I don't usually like it in spite of everything but I accept for the common good, for the social. I'm not a good player yet, I admit it, and that can also influence my perception of whether the match is good or not. Despite this, I am not so satisfied with the pairings between 5 against 7, 7 against 9 ... 6 against 8 ....
Anyway. The case was that I was quite uncomfortable being with a 7 against 9 and how I wanted to play doing things my way, hitting more to show my side in order to shoot with all my cannons because I took two reports from other players for the mere fact that they had been killed and were looking at my camera. I guess they didn't like my offensive way of playing. Actually, in the situation we were in, the game was already won in favor of our team and if he was playing like that it was solely for that reason and he did not pretend to be toxic or bring me reports.
I've been leaving games for a while now and I don't know why the game throws me out of the game and I can't see the result of the game after it. It happened on this occasion and when I returned to port and saw the two reports I wanted to see her again for the mere fact of responding in the same way that they had responded to my offensive attitude in battle.
I understand that wg prefers that I stay silent without being able to "return" the gift of having a couple of points lowered in my karma and that let's see if this way I learn not to play so risky so as not to take those reports but at the same time I have to accept bad matchmaking. the truth is that I have to accept a lot of bad things to play a game that I like. I worry that these things will become chronic in games like this although here I only want to point out what for me are too deliberate mistakes.

Anyway, I say this without wanting to sow more controversy than there will already be, which will not be little.
regards

by the way, at no time did I insult anyone but I did receive more than one comment that he was doing things wrong and his ways left much to be desired

[fabatka]

Matchmaking(WG), hates the players. Putting stock ships always in +2 tier is so default for them...

"fun and engaging" they said...

[ghostbuster_]

3 minutes ago, sordus004 said:

hello, good to everyone. I have been playing wg games for quite a few years now and I am well aware of the operation and matchmaking of the games of this great house. I don't usually have anything against bad pairings from level 8 onwards because I find that almost all the ships that I have, premium or not, are quite balanced and I think they can see 10. I don't usually like it in spite of everything but I accept for the common good, for the social. I'm not a good player yet, I admit it, and that can also influence my perception of whether the match is good or not. Despite this, I am not so satisfied with the pairings between 5 against 7, 7 against 9 ... 6 against 8 ....
Anyway. The case was that I was quite uncomfortable being with a 7 against 9 and how I wanted to play doing things my way, hitting more to show my side in order to shoot with all my cannons because I took two reports from other players for the mere fact that they had been killed and were looking at my camera. I guess they didn't like my offensive way of playing. Actually, in the situation we were in, the game was already won in favor of our team and if he was playing like that it was solely for that reason and he did not pretend to be toxic or bring me reports.
I've been leaving games for a while now and I don't know why the game throws me out of the game and I can't see the result of the game after it. It happened on this occasion and when I returned to port and saw the two reports I wanted to see her again for the mere fact of responding in the same way that they had responded to my offensive attitude in battle.
I understand that wg prefers that I stay silent without being able to "return" the gift of having a couple of points lowered in my karma and that let's see if this way I learn not to play so risky so as not to take those reports but at the same time I have to accept bad matchmaking. the truth is that I have to accept a lot of bad things to play a game that I like. I worry that these things will become chronic in games like this although here I only want to point out what for me are too deliberate mistakes.

Anyway, I say this without wanting to sow more controversy than there will already be, which will not be little.
regards

So, you were in a tier 7 ship in a tier 9 MM. You showed broadside to shoot all your guns (which is a horrible mistake) and got reported? So, where is the problem here? You should have learned not to show broadside by now. You being reported for this poor play is totaly normal. 

Besides, karma doesnt have any use and means nothing. There is no need to care about karma anyway.

[sordus004]

Look, with the ships of the line it does not happen to me. The truth is that here it is much easier for me than in wot to accumulate free xp and spend it on what I think is worth it to unlock all the improvements and their packages of the new ships that I am taking out. in that battle I came out with a premium 7, a Hyuga. I do not consider him to have much of a problem against 8, the truth is, I see him as a good boat to face against +1. But compared to +2, having reached the end of the game, facing another 7 that was still alive and I showed my side specifically to finish or generate more damage, well, look, it annoys me that later on other defending players report that it exists the actual matchmaking. It annoys me because I see that they are also harmed, hey, I spend my money and buy boats and as I said before, I know that I am not all good to speak but it is that there are clear disadvantages in the teams, putting an Agir in front to a Roon, well guys, what do you want me to tell you, I find it very difficult to defend those positions

[sordus004]

7 minutos antes, ghostbuster_ dijo:

So, you were in a tier 7 ship in a tier 9 MM. You showed broadside to shoot all your guns (which is a horrible mistake) and got reported? So, where is the problem here? You should have learned not to show broadside by now. You being reported for this poor play is totaly normal. 

Besides, karma doesnt have any use and means nothing. There is no need to care about karma anyway.

It will be a terrible mistake but I was in front of another 7, there were less than 2 minutes left to finish the game, I had only 40k damage and what do you want me to tell you ... if by showing my side I risked doing 10k more, or 15 well it was worth it. I know that not everything is damage but under the circumstances I couldn't do much more. more to win xp, wow, let's not take things out of context

 

[sordus004]

And it is no longer that karma works or does not work at all, it is taken for granted but when you see each other so many times that they put buffalos in one team and alaska in the other, roon versus agir ... and things for the style, and is that in each tier there is a good ship and one not so good that seem equivalent (and I am not talking about the premium specifically) and matchmaking is considered good. and it is horrible to take that for good. you know, I specifically come here to denounce that. the unbalanced matchmaking by putting +/- 2 is something since he seems to be old knowing wg

[ColonelPete]

22 minutes ago, sordus004 said:

hello, good to everyone. I have been playing wg games for quite a few years now and I am well aware of the operation and matchmaking of the games of this great house. I don't usually have anything against bad pairings from level 8 onwards because I find that almost all the ships that I have, premium or not, are quite balanced and I think they can see 10. I don't usually like it in spite of everything but I accept for the common good, for the social. I'm not a good player yet, I admit it, and that can also influence my perception of whether the match is good or not. Despite this, I am not so satisfied with the pairings between 5 against 7, 7 against 9 ... 6 against 8 ....
Anyway. The case was that I was quite uncomfortable being with a 7 against 9 and how I wanted to play doing things my way, hitting more to show my side in order to shoot with all my cannons because I took two reports from other players for the mere fact that they had been killed and were looking at my camera. I guess they didn't like my offensive way of playing. Actually, in the situation we were in, the game was already won in favor of our team and if he was playing like that it was solely for that reason and he did not pretend to be toxic or bring me reports.
I've been leaving games for a while now and I don't know why the game throws me out of the game and I can't see the result of the game after it. It happened on this occasion and when I returned to port and saw the two reports I wanted to see her again for the mere fact of responding in the same way that they had responded to my offensive attitude in battle.
I understand that wg prefers that I stay silent without being able to "return" the gift of having a couple of points lowered in my karma and that let's see if this way I learn not to play so risky so as not to take those reports but at the same time I have to accept bad matchmaking. the truth is that I have to accept a lot of bad things to play a game that I like. I worry that these things will become chronic in games like this although here I only want to point out what for me are too deliberate mistakes.

Anyway, I say this without wanting to sow more controversy than there will already be, which will not be little.
regards

by the way, at no time did I insult anyone but I did receive more than one comment that he was doing things wrong and his ways left much to be desired

What do you want to discuss exactly? Your post is not really precise.

19 minutes ago, fabatka said:

Matchmaking(WG), hates the players. Putting stock ships always in +2 tier is so default for them...

"fun and engaging" they said...

It is not default for me. You must be VERY unlucky.

 

[ghostbuster_]

17 minutes ago, sordus004 said:

It will be a terrible mistake but I was in front of another 7, there were less than 2 minutes left to finish the game, I had only 40k damage and what do you want me to tell you ... if by showing my side I risked doing 10k more, or 15 well it was worth it. I know that not everything is damage but under the circumstances I couldn't do much more. more to win xp, wow, let's not take things out of context

 

in this case send us the replay so we can see if there was a possibility to win the game or not. if the game was already won and you showed your side to do 10k extra, it would be fine and noone would have reported you. but if there was a slight chance of winning but you threw your ship away just to do 10k more damage, you would deserve every single report.

[fabatka]

5 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

It is not default for me. You must be VERY unlucky.

Last about twenty battle Devonshire, 90% in T8. Moved to Surrey, the same.

Started the gunboat DD line, Minekaze, 80% in T7, same with Hatsuharu.

Wtf I can do, to be not "unlucky"? Play in T1?

 

[ColonelPete]

2 minutes ago, fabatka said:

Last about twenty battle Devonshire, 90% in T8. Moved to Surrey, the same.

Started the gunboat DD line, Minekaze, 80% in T7, same with Hatsuharu.

Wtf I can do, to be not "unlucky"? Play in T1?

90% is not default.

And when you play other Tier VI ships in between, that can happen.

[fabatka]

Just now, ColonelPete said:

90% is not default.

And when you play other Tier VI ships in between, that can happen.

Obviously, I will not try to prove it. I have this experince

[principat121]

46 minutes ago, fabatka said:

Putting stock ships always in +2 tier is so default for them

[sordus004]

38 minutos antes, ghostbuster_ dijo:

en este caso, envíenos la repetición para que podamos ver si existe la posibilidad de ganar el juego o no. Si el juego ya se ganó y mostraste tu lado para hacer 10k extra, estaría bien y nadie te habría reportado. pero si hubiera una pequeña posibilidad de ganar pero tiraste tu nave solo para hacer 10k más de daño, te merecerías todos los informes.

 

Already at the beginning of this post I said that the game prevented me from seeing the results of that match. But come on, there were 3 boats from the opposing team and 5 from ours. I cannot prove it but in the same way that I have to trust those who supposedly know more than I do, you will have to believe it if you want to debate this.

the opening of this post is based on the fact that there are often too many unbalanced things and I have pointed out two, the matchmaking +/- 2 that from 7 downwards that I consider to be totally unbalanced and the one that they put unbalanced ships in the same tier wanting to assert that they are balanced

[NorShii]

The matchmaking system is never going to change, you have to live with it if you want to play in any ship above Tier IV. And showing broadside to enemies is the stupidest thing you can do. You're just going to have to accept that this isn't 2016 anymore, people know each others ships weaknesses and exploit them to the fullest at any opportunity they get

[ghostbuster_]

38 minutes ago, sordus004 said:

 

Already at the beginning of this post I said that the game prevented me from seeing the results of that match. But come on, there were 3 boats from the opposing team and 5 from ours. I cannot prove it but in the same way that I have to trust those who supposedly know more than I do, you will have to believe it if you want to debate this.

You dont have to be able to see the result screen in order to share the replay. 

So, 3v5. It could have gone to any direction. We dont know the points of the teams at the moment when you decided to throw away your ship for 10k extra damage. We dont know the cap situations. We still dont know if you won or lost. 

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the opening of this post is based on the fact that there are often too many unbalanced things and I have pointed out two, the matchmaking +/- 2 that from 7 downwards that I consider to be totally unbalanced and the one that they put unbalanced ships in the same tier wanting to assert that they are balanced

Tier 7 in a tier 9 MM is ok imo. 

[N00Boo7]

     Get better, like a bottom tier u need to play more careful. Don't hide your stats, then come on forum for whining, if u have them bad, is no shame in that, is just a game, but more skilled players can advise u  by seeing your stats ( what u do good/wrong). Also don't forget, WG needs to make money, one of the way they do it, is by creating reasons for players to use freexp. U hate  to be bottom tier? Buy and use freexp or learn to play. 

   I hate this MM, but i learned to live with it. I remember how much i hated Ibuki when i was grinding Zao line..i didnt play it from years..by just curiosity i took it recently for couple of rounds. ( having now more experience in the game than i had  back then ). Didint invest in the captain, only a 6 pointer.. each and every single game in it i finish  on top score board with it, again an Ibuki with 6 pointer...Where i want to end up is, after u will get more experience, MM will not be that scary even  u are bottom tier. Also is an advantage, every dmg u do to higher tier ships u get better xp bonus.

    

[sordus004]

49 minutos antes, ghostbuster_ dijo:

No es necesario que pueda ver la pantalla de resultados para compartir la repetición. 

Entonces, 3v5. Podría haber ido en cualquier dirección. No conocemos los puntos de los equipos en el momento en que decidiste tirar tu nave por 10k de daño adicional. No conocemos las situaciones de límite. Todavía no sabemos si ganó o perdió. 

El nivel 7 en un nivel 9 MM está bien en mi opinión. 

 

We won. And they did not break my boat despite receiving damage for having risked. I insist, these evaluations in public, less appreciating your colleagues and that although karma is useless, it is very discouraging that they value you this way for wanting to scratch more xp points, credits, or for the simple fact of feeling that you have done more.
I seem to criticize for criticizing, when they were levels higher than me and I was alive at the end of the match and they were not. Let's see, I'm not criticizing them for having died, but for judging another player for what? in order for me to have the ability of another who has 5 or 10 times more match than me? Well look, they can keep their judgments and their written evaluations because they only demotivate. Think about it when you do.

 

49 minutos antes, ghostbuster_ dijo:

 

El nivel 7 en un nivel 9 MM está bien en mi opinión. 

I insist, was opinions. I think not and although the Hyuga is a good boat I think that against certain 9 she is not qualified to face. We can all give our opinion and as such we all value acting in one way or another. It is imperative to respect included those who are learning. And I insist again, I knew that by showing my side they were not going to take me out of the match, and that I could do more damage. I didn't do it at the cost of nothing.
 

[sordus004]

14 minutos antes, N00Boo7 dijo:

     Get better, like a bottom tier u need to play more careful. Don't hide your stats, then come on forum for whining, if u have them bad, is no shame in that, is just a game, but more skilled players can advise u  by seeing your stats ( what u do good/wrong). Also don't forget, WG needs to make money, one of the way they do it, is by creating reasons for players to use freexp. U hate  to be bottom tier? Buy and use freexp or learn to play. 

   I hate this MM, but i learned to live with it. I remember how much i hated Ibuki when i was grinding Zao line..i didnt play it from years..by just curiosity i took it recently for couple of rounds. ( having now more experience in the game than i had  back then ). Didint invest in the captain, only a 6 pointer.. each and every single game in it i finish  on top score board with it, again an Ibuki with 6 pointer...Where i want to end up is, after u will get more experience, MM will not be that scary even  u are bottom tier. Also is an advantage, every dmg u do to higher tier ships u get better xp bonus.

    

 

 

Look, I come from places where the toxicity is worse than here. I don't think I'm crying about anything. But to be told that he blocks me because my complaints are supposedly unfair and then to top it off he insults me (it is the few times in a long time that I did not capture a screen), and he reports me in karma. But let's see. Let's clarify. He considered that I must be toxic and he blocked me and he did not read me but then he told me how to play and how he did not like me he insulted me. And in the end it reports to me.

Well guys, let's leave all those higher beings playing alone. Alone against teams. I prefer to be seen AFK many times. The imbalance that exists when they put +/- 2 is undeniable and add to that they put things like a Roon against an Agir or a Buffalo against an Alaska. Guys, please. It is that they are making a joke on you and on top of that you like it to be done.

[MrWastee]

so waot?!?!

 

what it this here actually?!

 

nutthing but a whine-thread is all i see. to me with like zero sense! "did good, there was no risk for the team, but +2mm is evil though beneath t8 (it's not, at least not how presented imho!), but in the end it's only about getting reports anyway....."

 

mm: discussed beyond anything! they won't change it!

karma: discussed beyond anything! they won't change something here without urge.... and that is not to see at all, ever...

 

so, again: wth is the purpose of this thread, other than something very personal?!....

 

 

[sordus004]

2 minutos antes, MrWastee dijo:

so waot?!?!

 

what it this here actually?!

 

nutthing but a whine-thread is all i see. to me with like zero sense! "did good, there was no risk for the team, but +2mm is evil though beneath t8 (it's not, at least not how presented imho!), but in the end it's only about getting reports anyway....."

 

mm: discussed beyond anything! they won't change it!

karma: discussed beyond anything! they won't change something here without urge.... and that is not to see at all, ever...

 

so, again: wth is the purpose of this thread, other than something very personal?!....

 

 

 

Look, if, as you say, we have to put up with it and those two things are not going to change, at least I think that one could not be condescending with those who demand from a rookie what many times not even a good player achieves. So at least that.

[Wulf_Ace]

+2 -2 MM is most idiotic thing in this game and there is a lot of them.

I love to be in my Hipper withot heal in tier 10 MM. When Montana blapms me with all her guns.

I love to be in Nurnberg against tier 8 BBs,with amazing range to shoot at them.

Yesterday i was in graf spee shooting peanuts at Bismarck,he laughed. Amagi behind him laughed. I was not amused.

+1 -1 MM is only fair thing.

[MrWastee]

3 minutes ago, sordus004 said:

 

 

Look, I come from places where the toxicity is worse than here. I don't think I'm crying about anything. But to be told that he blocks me because my complaints are supposedly unfair and then to top it off he insults me (it is the few times in a long time that I did not capture a screen), and he reports me in karma. But let's see. Let's clarify. He considered that I must be toxic and he blocked me and he did not read me but then he told me how to play and how he did not like me he insulted me. And in the end it reports to me.

aha, evul people on the internetz rofl... now that's something new .... who cares lol?!

 

3 minutes ago, sordus004 said:

Well guys, let's leave all those higher beings playing alone. Alone against teams. I prefer to be seen AFK many times.

eeeeeeeeeerrrmmm...... so, u prefer to be seen afk MANY times yourself?! now that's toxic actually, and def'o not in direction of teamplay in the 1st place?!

 

3 minutes ago, sordus004 said:

 

The imbalance that exists when they put +/- 2 is undeniable and add to that they put things like a Roon against an Agir or a Buffalo against an Alaska.

 

......my roon says: send moar, PLZ!!! u know, these ships all got different playstyles? i not would rate one over the other.... and for sure roon is a kiting beast, it's actually the better hindi imho!

+ more xp and credits, i embrace being lowtier!.....

 

3 minutes ago, sordus004 said:

 

Guys. It is that they are making a joke on you and on top of that you like it to be done.

no, that's u? idc for strangers on the internet who proove such attitude.... they might call as what they like, why i even remotely should care bout their opinion lol?!

[MrWastee]

7 minutes ago, sordus004 said:

 

Look, if, as you say, we have to put up with it and those two things are not going to change, at least I think that one could not be condescending with those who demand from a rookie what many times not even a good player achieves. So at least that.

everyone been a rookie at some point? and this game really is not as hard to get as others, much faster shooters. it's way more tactical by default. a rookie can choose to improve.... or simply to complain about things he doesnt understand. you know, putting the blame on anything but himself.... and then f.e. reporting players who do things he does not understand.

 

u get insulted/reported? u did something very right or very wrong. i trust one might get to the point of reflection, whichalways starts at oneself. u're dead sure u did it all fine? fine, where's the prob then?!

 

u essentially let them turn their problem with u into ur problem with them. they won, gg.

[sordus004]

33 minutos antes, MrWastee dijo:

¿Todos han sido novatos en algún momento? y este juego realmente no es tan difícil de conseguir como otros, tiradores mucho más rápidos. es mucho más táctico por defecto. un novato puede elegir mejorar ... o simplemente quejarse de cosas que no entiende. ya sabes, echarle la culpa a todo menos a sí mismo ... y luego denunciar a jugadores que hacen cosas que él no entiende.

 

¿Te insultan / denuncian? Hiciste algo muy bien o muy mal. Confío en que uno pueda llegar al punto de la reflexión, que siempre comienza en uno mismo. ¿Estás seguro de que lo hiciste todo bien? bien, ¿dónde está el problema entonces?

 

Básicamente, dejas que conviertan su problema contigo en tu problema con ellos. ganaron, gg.

 

Look, now you have answered me with something that says more than what you were saying. It is true, I have brought up a problem here that is not really important. But there is another question. To those people, to those great players who speak with that tone of super good, of "I know everything and I know better than you what you should do" if only those of us who suffer them face them, this will become a circus where who ignores them and allows them to harass those who do. I have not brought this as personal as it may seem. Tonight I am going to sleep just as calm and with a clear conscience, knowing that I gave what I know best about myself, selfishly scratching a few points and risking very little the victory of my team. Those of us who allow those people who think they are so wise not to be put in their place are then responsible for ugly things. Of other more toxic behaviors.

Although it is assumed that the wrong things in the game must be accepted (I'm not going to do it), I cannot disagree more with the fact that players who speak with such moral superiority are allowed what we allow them. And I include myself, and I see it from a global perspective, not just thinking about this game. Oh well. Long live condescence.

[sordus004]

1 hora antes, MrWastee dijo:

aha, evul la gente en internetz rofl ... ahora eso es algo nuevo ... ¡¿a quién le importa ?!

 

 

Ok, let him do anything uncontrollably ... but you leave them at home, or in your country, or at your games, or in your neighborhood. If I complain about this, it is because I absolutely reject having to put up with such things. Since you don't seem to care about them, save them all yourself.

 

1 hora antes, MrWastee dijo:

 

 

eeeeeeeeeerrrmmm ... así que, ¿prefieres ser visto MUCHAS veces tú mismo? ¡¿Ahora eso es tóxico en realidad, y definitivamente no en la dirección del juego en equipo en el 1er lugar ?!

 

...... mi roon dice: envía moar, PLZ !!! ¿Sabes, todos estos barcos tienen diferentes estilos de juego? No calificaría a uno sobre el otro ... y seguro que Roon es una bestia de kite, ¡en realidad es el mejor hindi en mi humilde opinión!

 

 

I see that the fine acidity does not affect you or you do not take it, I do not know although I will tell you another opinion of mine, that you will not understand. If I have to endure the condescension that positions like the one I am hinting at are not defended, where I only demand that the wise be put in their place, leaving aside the issues of imbalances, it can be understood that staying AFK is at least one. complaint about the bad situation of this whole context. If you think I should play without paying attention to those people, you want to make me patronize, and honestly, you are not going to be successful.

Complaining always has a purpose. I am convinced that there will be someone who will read this and change their attitude. Up to a point, under certain circumstances, but there will be. And if that improves the gaming experience for rookies, we will have accomplished something.

1 hora antes, MrWastee dijo:

 

 

no, ese eres tú? idc para extraños en Internet que demuestran tal actitud ... podrían llamar como les gusta, ¿por qué me debería importar su opinión, jajaja?

 

 

Do what you want with my opinion, I did not come expecting anyone's satisfaction. Just raise a little awareness.