Quick question about the upcoming H-42 BB

[totally_potato]

So most of the stats of this BB are currently unknown but a couple of things were revealed

1. It has eight 483mm guns

2. It has universal secondary battery of 127mm

 

Ok so 483mm is kind of the wrong caliber? Didn't the H-42 have 480mm caliber?

Also the secondary battery was the same as H-39 aka FDG in game

So where did these 127mm guns came from? And its entirely possible that these guns could be Z-52 gun turrets/Gneisenau B hull and GK secondary guns but their caliber is 128mm. So where do these 127s come from? And universal means dual purpose, that I know, but these sound a lot like Gearing turrets (maybe I am completely wrong but that Universal word completely confused me). Coz American secondaries were usually called universal secondary battery in History channels like Drachniffel. So can someone clear this out?

 

[CaptainKreutzer]

Hannover appears to be completely fantasy ship, Idk her HP but i think it's going to be very large with 141 k HP or 130 k HP, her size breaks the GK's record, Her size is even bigger then H44 design with 355 meters.

 

Those secondaries are probably late war design of 127 mm guns, WG will probably correct it to 128 mm tho because of 32 mm treshold. Those secondaries might really designed tho.

 

483 mm guns are rounded number actually 18.9 inch to 19 inch.

 

Atleast now turret designs exist that i hope we will see Alt GK with 8 483 mm guns in the future.

[Miscommunication_dept]

I think the secondary calibre is a mistake as they will pen 32mm armour regardless, the change makes no difference.

 

Odd that main gun calibre is different also. 
Maybe WG found the secret plans?

[totally_potato]

1 minute ago, CaptainKreutzer said:

Hannover appears to be completely fantasy ship, Idk her HP but i think it's going to be very large with 141 k HP or 130 k HP, her size breaks the GK's record, Her size is even bigger then H44 design with 355 meters.

 

Those secondaries are probably late war design of 127 mm guns, WG will probably correct it to 128 mm tho because of 32 mm treshold. Those secondaries might really designed tho.

 

483 mm guns are rounded number actually 18.9 inch to 19 inch.

 

Atleast now turret designs exist that i hope we will see Alt GK with 8 483 mm guns in the future.

Can you show me the late war secondary turret designed?

 

[ColonelPete]

Gun caliber is relative.

The german 128mm guns were called 127mm guns.

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_5-45_skc41.php

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12.7_cm_SK_C/34_naval_gun

 

The same can happen to bigger guns. It is possible that the 483mm and 480mm are ths same guns.

[Miscommunication_dept]

I think these ‘super battleships’ are going to be poor. Far more vulnerable to cruisers, CVs and destroyers for guns that overmatch. We’ll see if they are fun to play but if WG wants to keep them balanced, they won’t be.

[CaptainKreutzer]

Just now, totally_potato said:

Can you show me the late war secondary turret designed?

 

I don't have access to bundesarchiv so i can only say "might".

 

In other hand my friend has found the enclosed 55 mm AA turrets so there's possibility of this new 127 mm turret design exist in archives.

 

[totally_potato]

1 minute ago, CaptainKreutzer said:

I don't have access to bundesarchiv so i can only say "might".

 

In other hand my friend has found the enclosed 55 mm AA turrets so there's possibility of this new 127 mm turret design exist in archives.

 

hmm

 

[CaptainKreutzer]

NVM My friend found the turret Design just now

 

[YILDIRIM39]

2 dakika önce, CaptainKreutzer dedi:

NVM Arkadaşım taret tasarımını şimdi buldu

 

Bu taretler çapraz olarak mı hareket ediyor?

top right drawing

[22cm]

Germany used the metric system, UK/US their own measures. 

1 inch is 2.54 cm.

19 inches is 48.26 cm or 482,6 mm. 

US/UK would round up the 48 cm to 19 inches. 

Most of the books about ships are written in English. 

If the original source would use the English inch system m, converting it back to the metric system would come as 482.6 mm, and round it up again would be 483 mm. 

Nothing more then an incorrect double round up. 

Of course, too complicated for the devs to figure up. Guns should be 480 mm. 

[Tanaka_15]

question about upcoming mage_super_ultra_thunderer can it have 20 HE thunderes guns with 20s realode? (in 5x4 turrets) and a good dd concilment like normal thunderer. Can we demote normall tunderer to be a supercruser now? Like a bigger alska, and put mega_super_ultra_thunderer in a BB spot? I will pay with reall cash for it :) 

 

WG you dont have to pay me for this idea, just implement it :) 

[Miscommunication_dept]

17 minutes ago, Tanaka_15 said:

question about upcoming mage_super_ultra_thunderer can it have 20 HE thunderes guns with 20s realode? (in 5x4 turrets) and a good dd concilment like normal thunderer. Can we demote normall tunderer to be a supercruser now? Like a bigger alska, and put mega_super_ultra_thunderer in a BB spot? I will pay with reall cash for it :) 

 

WG you dont have to pay me for this idea, just implement it :) 

You think you’re funny but somewhere is Wargaming HQ, someone is taking notes.

[Cirno9999]

i only fear the german dispersion and secondary accuracy on that ship and due to the large size it will be maneuvering like a brick, i like the bismarck gun setup tho, probably will be 28- 36 sec reload but horrid turret traverse due to the sheer size of the turrets and with the rework of the secondary skills  you probably only score 10 % of shells fired

[YILDIRIM39]

I think air defends will be bad but I still want it

[NorShii]

6 minutes ago, YILDIRIM39 said:

I think air defends will be bad but I still want it

Or they can just give it Hipsters AA but double it's damage to compensate its massive and bloaty hull 

[Tanaka_15]

46 minutes ago, gopher31 said:

You think you’re funny but somewhere is Wargaming HQ, someone is taking notes.

Tbh if tehy will put 6 guns thunderer as a t8 cruser next year i will not be suprised at all. 

[RossijskijAxisFlot]

To me, now that we got Shikishima ( thus breaking 460mm promise ), H-42 should replace Grosser Kurfurst as the Tier X german silver battleship. No H plan battleship was designed with triple gun turrets. 

[x_scheer109_x]

1 hour ago, CaptainKreutzer said:

Hannover appears to be completely fantasy ship

Yes, unfortunately we don't get the H42.Instead we get an internet fan design:

I'm a little disappointed... 

[RossijskijAxisFlot]

5 minuti fa, KommodorevonKlein ha scritto:

To me, now that we got Shikishima ( thus breaking 460mm promise ), H-42 should replace Grosser Kurfurst as the Tier X german silver battleship. No H plan battleship was designed with triple gun turrets. 

Or an alternative Tier X BB to the Grosser, with different playstyle... much more focused on main battery accuracy, something that feels different from the rest of the line.

[RossijskijAxisFlot]

4 minuti fa, x_scheer109_x ha scritto:

Yes, unfortunately we don't get the H42.Instead we get an internet fan design:

I'm a little disappointed... 

German battleships are such a beauty 

[CaptainKreutzer]

12 minutes ago, x_scheer109_x said:

Yes, unfortunately we don't get the H42.Instead we get an internet fan design:

I'm a little disappointed... 

Yeah, btw there's 16 x 2 128 mm secondary, Lots of 55, 50 and 30 mm AA on Hannover.

 

Altho there's now potential of GK with 483 mm guns, torps and this new secondary guns. Also i think WG will abuse new 50 mm AA like how they abused 30 mm AA for a year already.

[FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor]

Alls I'm saying is "Progress Bar for more interesting and varied gameplay".

WG in a nut shell.

By which I mean a shell full of nuts.

 

 

[HystericalAccuracy]

2 hours ago, totally_potato said:

Also the secondary battery was the same as H-39 aka FDG in game

So where did these 127mm guns came from?

I guess WG went with them as a selling point for the ship. The 127/128 are much faster reloading than the 150´s and double as AA too, which fits the ongoing AA-creep. So if these BBs come for resources, it might end up having a steep steel-tag on it and people would fork it out.

 

Ah, and *maybe* its sekundaries gett teh neww special dispresion off teh new Italian crusier, just to make sure many many poeple really buy unlock it. Before it gets nerfed then.

[YabbaCoe]

Před 2 hodinami totally_potato řekl/a:

So most of the stats of this BB are currently unknown but a couple of things were revealed

1. It has eight 483mm guns

2. It has universal secondary battery of 127mm

 

Ok so 483mm is kind of the wrong caliber? Didn't the H-42 have 480mm caliber?

Also the secondary battery was the same as H-39 aka FDG in game

So where did these 127mm guns came from? And its entirely possible that these guns could be Z-52 gun turrets/Gneisenau B hull and GK secondary guns but their caliber is 128mm. So where do these 127s come from? And universal means dual purpose, that I know, but these sound a lot like Gearing turrets (maybe I am completely wrong but that Universal word completely confused me). Coz American secondaries were usually called universal secondary battery in History channels like Drachniffel. So can someone clear this out?

 

Just to confirm, what was said here regarding secondaries:

For the announcement in Waterline, we have used the calibre size used in the blueprints for these designs. The actual calibre of these guns is indeed 1mm bigger, which will be reflected in the specifications and descriptions of the guns in the game client.

 

Před 1 hodinou Tanaka_15 řekl/a:

question about upcoming mage_super_ultra_thunderer can it have 20 HE thunderes guns with 20s realode? (in 5x4 turrets) and a good dd concilment like normal thunderer. Can we demote normall tunderer to be a supercruser now? Like a bigger alska, and put mega_super_ultra_thunderer in a BB spot? I will pay with reall cash for it :) 

 

WG you dont have to pay me for this idea, just implement it :) 

No info about other ships than Hannover and Satsuma yet.

And your suggestion most likely won't be implemented.