Waterline: What's Happening Next?

[WWDragon]

1 hour ago, kenny212 said:

the soviet submarines were not designed as ocean going submarines, they were coastal

S-Class ... range 9,800 nmi (18,100 km) at 10.4 knots (19.3 km/h) surfaced,  148 nmi (274 km) at 3 knots (5.6 km/h) submerged

Type VII ... range 8,500 nmi (15,700 km; 9,800 mi) at 10 knots (19 km/h; 12 mph) surfaced, 80 nmi (150 km; 92 mi) at 4 knots (7.4 km/h; 4.6 mph) submerged

 

K-Class ... range 14,000 nmi (26,000 km; 16,000 mi) at 11 knots (20 km/h; 13 mph) surfaced, 16,000 mi) at 11 knots (20 km/h; 13 mph) submerged

Type IX ... range 13,450 nmi (24,910 km; 15,480 mi) at 10 knots (19 km/h; 12 mph) surface, 63 nmi (117 km; 72 mi) at 4 knots (7.4 km/h; 4.6 mph) submerged

 

Edit: Here are the range of a coastal submarine.

 

Type IID ... range, 5,650 nmi (10,460 km; 6,500 mi) at 8 knots (15 km/h; 9.2 mph) surfaced, 56 nmi (104 km; 64 mi) at 4 knots (7.4 km/h; 4.6 mph) submerged

 

[YabbaCoe]

Před 9 minutami imoenbg1 řekl/a:

Can I request a refund and account deletion the second your submarines hit the live servers????

 

 

You can request account deletion, if you would like. But unfortunately no refund will be provided.

[NobleRipper]

In an ideal world, having major new and different content added to a game I sometimes enjoy playing should be something to celebrate, and having submarines added to a WW2 naval game should be a positive thing.

 

In reality, WG's handling of CVs, ignoring of player feedback, failure to adequately test new content and general attitude of treating WoWs less like a game to be enjoyed and more like a hamster wheel to be ever-increasingly monetised, leaves me with no faith that the sub introduction will be any better than the numerous other poorly thought-out gameplay additions to date.

 

But then I don't play Ranked, so at least I won't have to deal with it any time soon.

[Sunleader]

Ok. This is Indeed alot of Announcements lol.

 

So I.ll be so Free and Peck on it in Order ^^

 

 

1.

I am Glad we get some New Skill Resets.

The Commander Skill Rework has Changed alot. And thus its good to know we will get further Resets so we can Experiment some more.

 

2.

I am also Glad we get back to Submarines. As most here likely know. I belong to the Few Vocal People on the Forums that wanted Submarines to be in the Game ^^

Now. I am also worried that you might be Overnerfing Submarines a bit. Considering the Reason for Everyone to get ASW was that Subs can Stay Underwater. So if they cant do that anymore. Everyone having Weapons to Fight them underwater. Will be quite the Overkill. Hopefully we will get fast Adjustments here. As otherwise we might end up with Subs being Rear Line Ships the moment they no longer have Battery. And thus basicly be like Deplaned CVs in RTS which Suicide cause they dont have anything to do.

I will postpone commenting the Beauty of Underwater World until I actually See it in the Game ^^

 

3.

I love the Idea of Super Battleships.

Frankly. I would hope for them to Come into the Game Permanently. And not just for a Time Limited Mode.

I mean come on ^^.

We already have Shikishima anyways. So H44 with 4x2 48cm Guns should be Perfectly Fine as a T10 German Premium BB.

Given that unlike Shikishima. German BBs have Fairly low Accuracy. It would not really be a problem anyways. ^^

 

Also. It might be the BBs for T11 ^^ Since that would keep them out of T8 Matches.

But well. Think about that Long and Hard xD

Pls dont Think too long and not too Negatively as It would be a Shame not to get these Beauties into the Game ^^

 

The Base Idea of having to Earn T11 Use Tickets. Might be Interesting for Randoms actually.

Albeit it would be a Problem if you make People buy the T11 Ships. So I would rather actually own a T11 Ship.

 

4.

I do like the Idea of Rewarding Focus Fire. 

Repeated Shots should get more Accurate as your Gunners find their Aim.

So I hope this Mechanic is Refined and Makes into the Game.

 

5.

Attack Aircraft.

Hmm. Interesting. But I.ll not hold my Breath ^^

We will See what happens. If nothing else. I am happy to See that you guys are Acknowledging the Problem and that you are Trying to Fix it.

As such I hope for the Best :)

 

6.

The Dutch Cruisers look Fun. It also looks Interesting that the T10 basicly is a Silver Supercruiser with 280mm Guns.

I wonder how Strong the Bombings will be tough. I hope this doesnt become an Overpowered Weapon to prevent Angling of the Enemy.

 

I also look forward to seeing a New Nation Techtree.

I am not a Friend of having Mixed Techtrees for Smaller Nations.

Especially for Smaller Nations. Such Ships were a Source of Pride. As such I think. All Nations should have their own Techtree. Even if they have only 1 Premium Ship right now :)

In that Theme. I actually hope Sweden gets their own Techtree too. :)

 

 

[Stronginthearms]

1 hour ago, YabbaCoe said:

Well, I am taking the blame as 30yo WG Staff representative.

You mean after reading those articles, what is going to appear in the game?

We always collect suggestions and after that deciding what to do with them. Some of those already made it to the game and some most likely will make it to the game later.

We are not ignoring anything and which disaster functionality you have in mind?

 

Which "new game mode with something new" introduced you have in mind?

Well, it is most likely there will be russian submarines, as historicaly Soviet Union had quite a lot of them.

yes its a pity there crews did sweet fa with them, i mean fancy being made a hero of russia for going out on a war patrol, and not sinking anything

[Stronginthearms]

2 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

Ok. This is Indeed alot of Announcements lol.

 

So I.ll be so Free and Peck on it in Order ^^

 

 

1.

I am Glad we get some New Skill Resets.

The Commander Skill Rework has Changed alot. And thus its good to know we will get further Resets so we can Experiment some more.

 

2.

I am also Glad we get back to Submarines. As most here likely know. I belong to the Few Vocal People on the Forums that wanted Submarines to be in the Game ^^

Now. I am also worried that you might be Overnerfing Submarines a bit. Considering the Reason for Everyone to get ASW was that Subs can Stay Underwater. So if they cant do that anymore. Everyone having Weapons to Fight them underwater. Will be quite the Overkill. Hopefully we will get fast Adjustments here. As otherwise we might end up with Subs being Rear Line Ships the moment they no longer have Battery. And thus basicly be like Deplaned CVs in RTS which Suicide cause they dont have anything to do.

I will postpone commenting the Beauty of Underwater World until I actually See it in the Game ^^

 

3.

I love the Idea of Super Battleships.

Frankly. I would hope for them to Come into the Game Permanently. And not just for a Time Limited Mode.

I mean come on ^^.

We already have Shikishima anyways. So H44 with 4x2 48cm Guns should be Perfectly Fine as a T10 German Premium BB.

Given that unlike Shikishima. German BBs have Fairly low Accuracy. It would not really be a problem anyways. ^^

 

Also. It might be the BBs for T11 ^^ Since that would keep them out of T8 Matches.

But well. Think about that Long and Hard xD

Pls dont Think too long and not too Negatively as It would be a Shame not to get these Beauties into the Game ^^

 

The Base Idea of having to Earn T11 Use Tickets. Might be Interesting for Randoms actually.

Albeit it would be a Problem if you make People buy the T11 Ships. So I would rather actually own a T11 Ship.

 

4.

I do like the Idea of Rewarding Focus Fire. 

Repeated Shots should get more Accurate as your Gunners find their Aim.

So I hope this Mechanic is Refined and Makes into the Game.

 

5.

Attack Aircraft.

Hmm. Interesting. But I.ll not hold my Breath ^^

We will See what happens. If nothing else. I am happy to See that you guys are Acknowledging the Problem and that you are Trying to Fix it.

As such I hope for the Best :)

 

6.

The Dutch Cruisers look Fun. It also looks Interesting that the T10 basicly is a Silver Supercruiser with 280mm Guns.

I wonder how Strong the Bombings will be tough. I hope this doesnt become an Overpowered Weapon to prevent Angling of the Enemy.

 

I also look forward to seeing a New Nation Techtree.

I am not a Friend of having Mixed Techtrees for Smaller Nations.

Especially for Smaller Nations. Such Ships were a Source of Pride. As such I think. All Nations should have their own Techtree. Even if they have only 1 Premium Ship right now :)

In that Theme. I actually hope Sweden gets their own Techtree too. :)

 

 

Sweden has its own tec tree just look at the eu destroyer line

[Chaoskraehe]

Vor 40 Minuten, imoenbg1 sagte:

Can I request a refund and account deletion the second your submarines hit the live servers????

 

 

No. 

[imoenbg1]

I just have this question for Yabba Coe...

 

Why should we trust Wargaming on their word since YOUR company stated that submarines WILL NEVER BE IMPLEMENTED?

 

Looks like never is quite fast in Soviet terms....

 

So basically anyone who does not want to deal with (or play with) submarines is royally shafted?????

 

There are quite a lot of other games with submarines. Why would you do it to your playerbase?

[Cirno9999]

imagine having 510mm guns and getting nothing but overpens on everything

[Bad_Players_Are_Toxic]

43 minutes ago, imoenbg1 said:

Can I request a refund and account deletion the second your submarines hit the live servers????

 

 

Don't do that as you receive no money in return. 

 

Just do as a lot of others have in the past and are atm...

 

My account contains both WOWS and when i used to play WOT. I have been offered over £1000 for my account a few times from different players as it has lots of premiums including some rare ships and tanks linked to it.

[DarthDon49]

2 hours ago, imoenbg1 said:

 

Lets count together - USA, that is one. IJN that is two. Germany that is three. I believe Britain had better submarines even, but dont count me on that.

 

Most definitely top three.....

Italy had a boat-load of subs, too.

[DarthDon49]

15 minutes ago, Cirno9999 said:

imagine having 510mm guns and getting nothing but overpens on everything

Oh, you'll get lots more than that: Richocets (18 inch shells off a wooden CV's deck), and torpedo protection hits.

[DarthDon49]

About resetting skills for free, I have over 200 ships on this server (the same on the NA server). You NEVER gave me adequate time to reset ALL my ships, not even close. Also, some of your automatic subs for skills SUCKED. This is unacceptable.

[TheWarJaC]

12 minutes ago, DarthDon49 said:

Italy had a boat-load of subs, too.

Yup, we did 😉.

 

https://artsandculture.google.com/exhibit/a-submarine-around-the-streets-of-milan/9ALSfdBrNsmJLQ 

[Peffers]

how long before someone mentions a boycott of ranked?

[deathsadow]

WG cant suprise me anymore, all i expect from Subs is a CV rework level of mess up ... it will be hard to do worse than that:D

[x_scheer109_x]

2 hours ago, Sunleader said:

So H44 with 4x2 48cm Guns should be Perfectly Fine as a T10 German Premium BB.

But you can read already, right? In the Devblog there is talk of "H42".

 

@YabbaCoe

Please give the Hannover another suitable name. His name should suit the "Großer Kurfürst".

 

[Sunleader]

18 minutes ago, x_scheer109_x said:

But you can read already, right? In the Devblog there is talk of "H42".

 

@YabbaCoe

Please give the Hannover another suitable name. His name should suit the "Großer Kurfürst".

 

 

I didnt actually Read.

Only watched the Video. Where they said a Further Development of the H42.

Which to me would Imply H43 or H44.

 

But Yeah. Just read the Devblog. They meant it as "A Version of H42" apparently.

 

Still. Big German BB with 48cm Guns :P

Whats not to like ^^

 

[bEtHeNs]

Submarines need to be tested massively somehow not to get what we do not want, (put here the name of any previous failed change)  If they need some game mode for that and it is ranked, for me it is very ok. 

[WeeFilly]

4 hours ago, Hanse77SWE said:

Subs: NO!!! I guess many will skip ranked just because of that. Many of the "old guard" doesn't want subs and will leave and I doubt new players will make up for it. If WG want it so bad, make a separate game for them. Call it "World of Warships : Cold War" and make CVs and subs the main ships.

Well, they already alienated a lot of the "old guard", many of them taking longer or indefinite breaks in the wake of the CV or the skills rework... So maybe that's why they think they can get away with another stupid decision?

[gabberworld]

cant wait when they add those sky bombers , good bye campers

[johncl]

What a lovely couple ....

 

Honestly 100% Never investing in this game ...Your company don't have a clue about your customers ...

 

So ...Dutch cruisers ..Have Air drops ..Anti sub warfare depth charge air drops ...Do you know most players don't like air power in the game  

 

You ask players to help test the upcoming changes ..But the captains reworks  tells us 100% you don't listen  100% waste of time ........

The incompetence of your company is legendary 

 

You mess up every thing you touch /change... you have't made a good call in the last 2 years ....Your game is getting worse by the patch 

 

You removed play styles from the game over night and then spend months try to convince players you are correct and they are still viable 

Deluded drunks work on a better sense of logic 

 

 

Currently i enjoy the game 50% less since the secondarily build was murdered ...That's 50% loss in 4 patches

The way your going means in 4 more patches WOWS will be

 

UNINSTALLED 

 

Just like WOT has been for years 

 

 

Congrats ...Do you understand why i won't invest in this game 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[uberscrub]

5 hours ago, Hanse77SWE said:

Subs: NO!!! I guess many will skip ranked just because of that. Many of the "old guard" doesn't want subs and will leave and I doubt new players will make up for it. If WG want it so bad, make a separate game for them. Call it "World of Warships : Cold War" and make CVs and subs the main ships.

That's almost a good idea. Now if they made it Subs and DDS as a separate game mode the CV BB and CA could be balanced easily if there were no DDs in-game

[Hopeless_Guppy]

6 hours ago, kenny212 said:

just remove the idea of submarines already, and the super battleships part...we all remember last time they introduced a new game mode with something new...and what happened to these vessels....their being introduced now in fact....submarines....just wait, it's another cash grab and you can bet your /%/# that there will be a russian one aswell.

But there was a Russian one on the test server, plus one American and a U boat, not sure if  am right but the way subs looked in this latest round seem they are quite easy to detect.

[Hopeless_Guppy]

4 hours ago, imoenbg1 said:

I just have this question for Yabba Coe...

 

Why should we trust Wargaming on their word since YOUR company stated that submarines WILL NEVER BE IMPLEMENTED?

 

Looks like never is quite fast in Soviet terms....

 

So basically anyone who does not want to deal with (or play with) submarines is royally shafted?????

 

There are quite a lot of other games with submarines. Why would you do it to your playerbase?

Can you name these games, PC version only thanks